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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 24, 2023 11:48:45 GMT -5
if Sami Zayn eats Roman Reigns for the title I will hereby eat my father alive The amount of cannibalism in this post is both impressive and disturbing.
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Post by Rolent Tex on Jan 24, 2023 11:53:31 GMT -5
They need to use the finish for Orton vs Barrett that should have been. Make Sami the referee for KO vs Roman with orders that Roman retains at all costs. Roman wins but Sami doesn’t do anything shady and because if that Roman boots him from Bloodline anyways but he’s below being beaten up. That comes back to bite Roman later when Sami wins the Rumble.
Sami needs to continue showing up for Jey and Jimmy though showing he cares more about them winning than Roman so their turn can be complete later on when they lose the titles on a night Roman does take Sami out for a show and can’t bother to help them retain.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 24, 2023 12:02:42 GMT -5
Outside view looking in: every time I hear about this storyline, I'm floored that people aren't totally confident that the endgame is Sami beating Roman. Not to say they're wrong to not be totally sure about that; it does seem like there's multiple other directions WWE might end up going with this. But man, just reading what's happening in this story makes it clear that Sami's the main character, he's getting the big reactions, and everything points to him standing up to Roman, just seems weird that there'd be any other outcome. Maybe that perception wouldn't be so strong if Cody hadn't gotten hurt and missed as much time as he did, then there could've been more time to build up his own angle or story. I will say there's been a shift in the story in the last two weeks or so that has made me think ok, maybe they ARE going with Sami at Mania, but I don't know that I'd say it was obvious prior to that. Before that, a great deal of the tension in the group was between Sami and the Uso's with Roman instigating a bit to his benefit. Meanwhile, Kevin Owens was surrounding all of it disappointed in his friend. What frustrates me is that there's a perfectly good chance here to tell an awesome story around the tag titles and that doesn't happen all that often anymore. Sami/KO vs. The Uso's is a main event match, too. WWE isn't exactly known for booking great underdog world title reigns, either.
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Post by BayleyTiffyCodyCenaJudyHopps on Jan 24, 2023 12:11:06 GMT -5
if Sami Zayn eats Roman Reigns for the title I will hereby eat my father alive Sami Lecter? Goodbye Bloodline, I’m picking Kevin over yoooouuu…
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Post by Jonathan Michaels on Jan 24, 2023 12:13:25 GMT -5
The issue with Sami and KO beating the Usos for the tag belts is that after last night I kinda don’t want to see Sami and Jey fight each other.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 24, 2023 12:18:22 GMT -5
The issue with Sami and KO beating the Usos for the tag belts is that after last night I kinda don’t want to see Sami and Jey fight each other. That said, it’s still a possiblity that Jey is lulling Sami into a false sense of security and will be ready to twist the knife if his Tribal Chief so pleases.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jan 24, 2023 12:18:23 GMT -5
I think regardless of the direction this takes, there's part of me that thinks next week or at some point soon, we're going to find out that the whole trial was staged, including Jey's intervention, to push Sami to do something bad to KO at Rumble. [kayfabe]Well of course they staged the whole thing, how else did Jey's video package/clips which apparently the others didn't know about magically have the same exact font/music/etc as the one Heyman had just played.[/kayfabe]
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jan 24, 2023 12:22:41 GMT -5
The issue with Sami and KO beating the Usos for the tag belts is that after last night I kinda don’t want to see Sami and Jey fight each other. That said, it’s still a possiblity that Jey is lulling Sami into a false sense of security and will be ready to twist the knife if his Tribal Chief so pleases. That's why I think that whole trial last night was a sham. This is the whole Bloodline manipulating Sami, especially Jey. In any event, I've probably spent too much time in this thread for a work day, but I think it's really cool to have a GOOD story to riff on like this one. Nice change of pace lately.
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Post by 4real on Jan 24, 2023 12:26:24 GMT -5
Great segment and great tag team match after. If RAW ended there happy days!
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jan 24, 2023 12:43:48 GMT -5
That said, it’s still a possiblity that Jey is lulling Sami into a false sense of security and will be ready to twist the knife if his Tribal Chief so pleases. That's why I think that whole trial last night was a sham. This is the whole Bloodline manipulating Sami, especially Jey. I do think when they turn on Sami it's going to be portrayed as more of a betrayal by Jey than anyone. Like Roman will be blasé/all business about it but Jey will completely destroy Sami. I think you may be right and it'll turn out they were all faking the whole thing last night just to gaslight Sami.
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Jan 24, 2023 13:12:12 GMT -5
That's why I think that whole trial last night was a sham. This is the whole Bloodline manipulating Sami, especially Jey. I do think when they turn on Sami it's going to be portrayed as more of a betrayal by Jey than anyone. Like Roman will be blasé/all business about it but Jey will completely destroy Sami. I think you may be right and it'll turn out they were all faking the whole thing last night just to gaslight Sami. I kinda want it so that Jey actually shows some reluctance in the betrayal of Sami but just goes along with it anyway. Then you can tease this reluctance into eventually having both Usos show respect to Sami and KO when they win the tag belts, which further infuriates Roman and causes the true fissure within the Bloodline.
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Post by Error on Jan 24, 2023 13:13:32 GMT -5
Having j just watched the tag title match, the way Sami looked at those tag titles after the match, yeah he's going for the tag titles.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Jan 24, 2023 15:41:38 GMT -5
I do think when they turn on Sami it's going to be portrayed as more of a betrayal by Jey than anyone. Like Roman will be blasé/all business about it but Jey will completely destroy Sami. I think you may be right and it'll turn out they were all faking the whole thing last night just to gaslight Sami. I kinda want it so that Jey actually shows some reluctance in the betrayal of Sami but just goes along with it anyway. Then you can tease this reluctance into eventually having both Usos show respect to Sami and KO when they win the tag belts, which further infuriates Roman and causes the true fissure within the Bloodline. Yeah with Jey being gaslit himself it doesn’t make sense for Jey to completely betray Sami. I feel maybe Jey cost Sami the title match in Montreal and Sami convinces Jey and Jimmy that Roman only cares about himself
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 24, 2023 16:56:19 GMT -5
I do think after last night if you want to put over the Bloodline turning on Sami as particularly a gut punch you kind of need Jey to be the one to put it over the top. The way Sami resigned himself to it in regards to Heyman, Roman, and Solo being fully prepared to get rid of him means it'd kind of lack a gut punch if you just do that again for real this time, but having Jey also betray him in spite of that impassioned defense of him would really take it to the next level.
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Post by Fade on Jan 24, 2023 18:05:40 GMT -5
I have no idea how the story goes or ends and that’s part of what I love.
But..I do think the moment has to gravitate around Sami and Jey. Might not even be the Bloodline turning on Sami initially, but the other way around. And it has to break our f***ing hearts.
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Post by Lancers on Jan 24, 2023 22:24:36 GMT -5
if Sami Zayn eats Roman Reigns for the title I will hereby eat my father alive The final image of Sami Zayn celebrating in the ring holding the WWE Championships then promptly belching out Roman's left boot will be the ultimate Wrestlemania moment.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jan 24, 2023 22:26:55 GMT -5
if Sami Zayn eats Roman Reigns for the title I will hereby eat my father alive The final image of Sami Zayn celebrating in the ring holding the WWE Championships then promptly belching out Roman's left boot will be the ultimate Wrestlemania moment. Pearce comes out and says that Sami didn't win by pinfall or submission so the decision is reversed then Roman spears out of him.
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Post by avenger on Jan 25, 2023 8:01:34 GMT -5
I agree with what Clash said during it and I’ve thought it for a while, the end-game’s gotta be Sami and KO Vs The Usos but man..I would not hate that pivot. I really wouldn’t. I wouldn’t hate it, but I would feel bad for Cody in that instance. Because he’d be like “well, shit. Again?” What’s the follow up for that, Codylander chasing World Champion Sami “for my father or else”? Why does Cody need to beat Roman for his father? Dusty was never held down by any member of the Anoi'a family. Cody's "destiny" is not to win the title from Roman, but to win the title, like he's a babyface Alberto Del Rio. Basically his story is that he has to win the WWE title because no-one else in his family has, and that's it? 90% of the roster can say the same thing.
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Post by avenger on Jan 25, 2023 8:03:07 GMT -5
I’m fine with either Zayn or Rhodes winning the world title, but I lean more towards Rhodes because I like the idea of there being two massive triumphs on the card (Rhodes world title/Zayn and Owens tag titles) as opposed to just one (Zayn world title) that leaves Rhodes, Owens and the tag titles out in the cold somewhat. Like, who else should beat The Usos at this point? There’s no real ready-made challengers in the division, and I don’t want it to be McIntyre/Sheamus because I want Sheamus to finally get his IC title win on this show. That’s where I’m at. Roman/Cody and Usos/Sami/KO gives you two massive matches. And a massive match the month before too with Roman/Sami in Montreal. Roman/Sami gives you one massive match because you take Sami out and the tag title is just a random midcard thing, compared to Usos v KO/Sami which with the build would be the biggest tag title match in years, maybe in company history, and is conceivably big enough it could main event night 1 of Wrestlemania. I won’t be angry if they do Roman/Sami at Mania but it’s not my main hope right now. Sami deserves better than a tag title match at Wrestlemania. He's the most over male wrestler since Daniel Bryan. Hell - Jey Uso deserves better than a tag title match at Wrestlemania.
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Post by DMO- on Jan 25, 2023 8:36:33 GMT -5
I really do want to see Sami dethrone Roman, like I’m all in on it right now. Maybe somehow they’re able to decide they’re splitting the belts and Roman loses it at elimination chamber. Maybe instead of Roman twisting the knife it’s Sami that stabs him in the back and have either Seth, KO or Cody take the belt at that show. Have Sami win the rumble and all the fun stuff in between.
But the one thing is, wwe hasn’t done a great job in developing a tag team that can believably beat the usos at mania other than KO and Sami reuniting to dethrone them. unless they really do start going all in with the BANGER BROS.
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