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Post by Hulk With A Mustache on Feb 15, 2023 10:13:01 GMT -5
They have two World Titles and two nights of WrestleMania. This shouldn’t be so hard to book. Why are they making it so difficult?
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 15, 2023 11:11:42 GMT -5
They have two World Titles and two nights of WrestleMania. This shouldn’t be so hard to book. Why are they making it so difficult? Becauee Roman has been THE dominant champ for the last 2 and a half years. Him getting beat by both Sami and Cody two nights in a row would devalue the wins for each guy. He should be beat once decisively.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 15, 2023 11:19:31 GMT -5
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Post by schma on Feb 15, 2023 11:49:06 GMT -5
They have two World Titles and two nights of WrestleMania. This shouldn’t be so hard to book. Why are they making it so difficult? Becauee Roman has been THE dominant champ for the last 2 and a half years. Him getting beat by both Sami and Cody two nights in a row would devalue the wins for each guy. He should be beat once decisively. I think him being beaten two nights in a row could really work if it's done right, especially if it leads to the unravelling of the bloodline. Multiple times in this reign he would have lost the title if not for his henchmen. Hell, Kevin Owens had him pinned far more than 3 in their match. Having the bloodline try to interfere on his behalf on night 1 and failing, leading to his loss could really set the stage for an excellent night 2. Roman could just go unhinged in that match, hell have him demand it be no dq so he can show how off the rails as he's going. Then Cody starts to get steam, here comes the bloodline to screw things up, until Jey cuts them off and prevents them from interfering, leading to Cody beating Roman. Bloodline falls apart, Roman goes down after putting on a hell of a match and Cody gets his big celebration.
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Post by Fade on Feb 15, 2023 12:02:12 GMT -5
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Feb 15, 2023 12:55:02 GMT -5
Becauee Roman has been THE dominant champ for the last 2 and a half years. Him getting beat by both Sami and Cody two nights in a row would devalue the wins for each guy. He should be beat once decisively. I think him being beaten two nights in a row could really work if it's done right, especially if it leads to the unravelling of the bloodline. Multiple times in this reign he would have lost the title if not for his henchmen. Hell, Kevin Owens had him pinned far more than 3 in their match. Having the bloodline try to interfere on his behalf on night 1 and failing, leading to his loss could really set the stage for an excellent night 2. Roman could just go unhinged in that match, hell have him demand it be no dq so he can show how off the rails as he's going. Then Cody starts to get steam, here comes the bloodline to screw things up, until Jey cuts them off and prevents them from interfering, leading to Cody beating Roman. Bloodline falls apart, Roman goes down after putting on a hell of a match and Cody gets his big celebration. I'd actually say splitting the titles would work best if they did pull the trigger on Sami at EC. Give Roman a month to get desperate, King of the Cruiserweights Neville, paranoid, abusive so the Bloodline end up abandoning him, he loses everything then comes back after a break.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 15, 2023 18:36:12 GMT -5
Having Sami beat Roman before Mania is borderline stupid
That would take away from Cody moment. He hasn't been defeated in years with Corbin bringing up that fact on RAW. No need to devalue it so close to the finish line
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Post by schma on Feb 15, 2023 22:07:08 GMT -5
Having Sami beat Roman before Mania is borderline stupid That would take away from Cody moment. He hasn't been defeated in years with Corbin bringing up that fact on RAW. No need to devalue it so close to the finish line While it might not be as big, Cody has been clear that his story is about the WWE title. Roman makes an awesome obstacle for him to overcome but at the end of the day, it's the WWE title that is the true prize for him. It is the big one, the top title, isn't that enough? It seems enough for Cody given the way his story seems to be going.
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Feb 15, 2023 22:13:29 GMT -5
Having Sami beat Roman before Mania is borderline stupid That would take away from Cody moment. He hasn't been defeated in years with Corbin bringing up that fact on RAW. No need to devalue it so close to the finish line While it might not be as big, Cody has been clear that his story is about the WWE title. Roman makes an awesome obstacle for him to overcome but at the end of the day, it's the WWE title that is the true prize for him. It is the big one, the top title, isn't that enough? It seems enough for Cody given the way his story seems to be going. No the WWE title isn't enough If you are going to put someone over, put them all the way over and don't half ass it. Roman taking any pin takes away from Cody shine and lessens the win he would have at Mania even in the main event
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Post by Ozman on Feb 15, 2023 22:38:47 GMT -5
Sami, Cody, and Heyman are all on a different level right now. And Roman is pouring gasoline on the fire via TikTok!!! www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRtC3jDX/
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 16, 2023 4:26:24 GMT -5
This is where, again, you need to be careful about what you do with both men both during and after WrestleMania.
Like, if (it's actually when but hear me out) Roman beats Sami, you need to make it in a way to protect Sami and build towards what he's doing next, may it be the tag titles or something else. And Sami needs to eventually beat Roman to cap off the story because he's as much a factor in Sami's story as Jey is.
I also don't think the crowd will turn on Cody but you also need to not make it easy for them to do so. Whether this era of creative can is the better question. Basically, this isn't Batista 2014 but you also shouldn't put the target on his back to make him Batista 2014.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Feb 16, 2023 4:36:46 GMT -5
Days later and
"You wanna say that Roman Reigns is god mode? Well, put it on a t-shirt. Print it, it looks real good there, but Roman Reigns is a man, Sami."
and
"I intend to finish my story, you need to finish yours."
May be the best lines from a promo in a long time.
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Post by ChitownKnight on Feb 16, 2023 4:40:20 GMT -5
This is where, again, you need to be careful about what you do with both men both during and after WrestleMania. Like, if (it's actually when but hear me out) Roman beats Sami, you need to make it in a way to protect Sami and build towards what he's doing next, may it be the tag titles or something else. And Sami needs to eventually beat Roman to cap off the story because he's as much a factor in Sami's story as Jey is. I also don't think the crowd will turn on Cody but you also need to not make it easy for them to do so. Whether this era of creative can is the better question. Basically, this isn't Batista 2014 but you also shouldn't put the target on his back to make him Batista 2014. Everyone says that Jey and Sami need to individually beat Roman at some point, but when? I feel like Roman, even after he loses the titles shouldn’t lose that often, especially since he will likely be a part timer going forward. Unless the losses lead to a face turn
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 16, 2023 4:42:47 GMT -5
This is where, again, you need to be careful about what you do with both men both during and after WrestleMania. Like, if (it's actually when but hear me out) Roman beats Sami, you need to make it in a way to protect Sami and build towards what he's doing next, may it be the tag titles or something else. And Sami needs to eventually beat Roman to cap off the story because he's as much a factor in Sami's story as Jey is. I also don't think the crowd will turn on Cody but you also need to not make it easy for them to do so. Whether this era of creative can is the better question. Basically, this isn't Batista 2014 but you also shouldn't put the target on his back to make him Batista 2014. Everyone says that Jey and Sami need to individually beat Roman at some point, but when? I feel like Roman, even after he loses the titles shouldn’t lose that often, especially since he will likely be a part timer going forward. Unless the losses lead to a face turn From my personal opinion, the only Roman loss should lead to actual time off and a face return. I feel like doing heel Roman after all this time just feels like getting blood from a stone, the story'll be practically over to do much with.
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Post by avenger on Feb 16, 2023 8:12:34 GMT -5
Sami needs to beat Roman.
Jey needs to beat Roman.
Cody needs to win the title, but doesn't need to beat Roman.
It just feels like a complete waste to have Cody beat Roman for the title. He doesn't even need to win the title now. He just needs to win the title. That story is so much more interesting if Cody faces a bump in the road every now and then. He's won every match since he returned. I'm not saying he should lose over and over again, but defeat in his first title match also doesn't make him a choke artist.
"I intend to finish my story, you need to finish yours."
Cody's even said it himself.
Cody can win the title at Money In The Bank, Summerslam, Wrestlemania 40, Raw, Smackdown, NXT or even at a house show. He doesn't need to beat Roman to do it.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 16, 2023 8:45:42 GMT -5
Sami needs to beat Roman. Jey needs to beat Roman. Cody needs to win the title, but doesn't need to beat Roman. It just feels like a complete waste to have Cody beat Roman for the title. He doesn't even need to win the title now. He just needs to win the title. That story is so much more interesting if Cody faces a bump in the road every now and then. He's won every match since he returned. I'm not saying he should lose over and over again, but defeat in his first title match also doesn't make him a choke artist. "I intend to finish my story, you need to finish yours." Cody's even said it himself. Cody can win the title at Money In The Bank, Summerslam, Wrestlemania 40, Raw, Smackdown, NXT or even at a house show. He doesn't need to beat Roman to do it. The thing is, though, Cody is (at least in merch terms) a genuine draw. It's what I mean to say when he's not Batista 2014 because Batista wasn't having his merch restocked the day it sold out for his Royal Rumble win. People are invested in his story right now so as a booker, common sense dictates you go with that as soon as possible. Like, if anything, the big hinderance in all this is that, unlike Cena/Batista in 2005, you can't give Cody one belt and Sami the other because one guy has both belts and even if you make a good story around Roman losing twice (and they can considering everything else with the Bloodline), it'd solve the issue entirely if Roman only had one belt.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Feb 16, 2023 8:50:20 GMT -5
Like, if (it's actually when but hear me out) Roman beats Sami, you need to make it in a way to protect Sami and build towards what he's doing next, may it be the tag titles or something else. And Sami needs to eventually beat Roman to cap off the story because he's as much a factor in Sami's story as Jey is. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but it seems pretty obvious that Jey is going to screw Sami out of the title. That would be said protection that Sami needs
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Post by schma on Feb 16, 2023 9:06:26 GMT -5
While it might not be as big, Cody has been clear that his story is about the WWE title. Roman makes an awesome obstacle for him to overcome but at the end of the day, it's the WWE title that is the true prize for him. It is the big one, the top title, isn't that enough? It seems enough for Cody given the way his story seems to be going. No the WWE title isn't enough If you are going to put someone over, put them all the way over and don't half ass it. Roman taking any pin takes away from Cody shine and lessens the win he would have at Mania even in the main event While I can see some of your points I'll have to respectfully disagree. If someone winning the WWE title in the main event of Wrestlemania isn't enough to put someone over, then we've gone far off the rails, even if the WWE champ lost the night before.
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Post by Nr1Humanoid on Feb 16, 2023 9:07:14 GMT -5
If he beats Roman I will give up men forever.
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Post by Feargus McReddit on Feb 16, 2023 9:08:44 GMT -5
Like, if (it's actually when but hear me out) Roman beats Sami, you need to make it in a way to protect Sami and build towards what he's doing next, may it be the tag titles or something else. And Sami needs to eventually beat Roman to cap off the story because he's as much a factor in Sami's story as Jey is. Maybe I'm giving them too much credit, but it seems pretty obvious that Jey is going to screw Sami out of the title. That would be said protection that Sami needs Oh, absolutely, the one thing that hinders that is that usually if Jimmy can't travel outside the country, Jey doesn't either. Logically, it should be different because Jey is so important to the story but we'll literally only find out by the PPV.
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