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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 15, 2023 14:54:19 GMT -5
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Post by ace on Mar 15, 2023 14:55:26 GMT -5
I’m excited but I do have to point out that I know my best friend’s birthday.
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Post by Chuck Conry on Mar 15, 2023 15:04:07 GMT -5
Hopefully this means we can at least have a DC universe with Superman how he's supposed to be without everyone wanting to turn him evil.
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Post by ayumidah on Mar 15, 2023 15:27:05 GMT -5
Only James Gunn could announce a movie by explaining how he forgot his dead dad's birthday
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Post by Renslayer on Mar 15, 2023 15:39:00 GMT -5
I know it's super early, but have there been any rumblings as to who'd be in the cast?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 15, 2023 15:39:42 GMT -5
I know it's super early, but have there been any rumblings as to who'd be in the cast? None that Gunn hasn't publicly debunked.
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Mar 15, 2023 16:19:30 GMT -5
More than a small part of me wants this movie to be as rude and irreverent as much of Gunn's superhero fare, if only to break the brains of people on the internet who insist Superman should only be or do "_(blank, whatever)_" based on what they half-remember from the Donner movies as filtered through the fog of pop culture nostalgia.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Mar 15, 2023 16:24:38 GMT -5
Just as long as it's not another "Superman is Jesus" movie.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 15, 2023 16:24:39 GMT -5
I don't have the highest of hopes for this, tbh. I've greatly enjoyed Gunn's DC output so far (Peacemaker especially was far better than I expected it to be) but most writers tend to have one tone and vibe that they're good at and others that they're mediocre at. And that's not a dig at Gunn specifically, it's the case for all of them. There's a reason Stephen King largely sticks to horror, after all.
But we'll see. It's too early to get particularly excited or worried about it. I'll give it a fair shake as more details come out over the coming years.
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Post by grunt on Mar 15, 2023 20:01:54 GMT -5
... I can't envision a Superman movie following the now-usual Gunn pattern of using as many retro songs as possible, to the point of being distracting, but we'll see.
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Post by thechase on Mar 16, 2023 2:34:15 GMT -5
Just as long as it's not another "Superman is Jesus" movie. It's a Gunn movie. If it is, he's gonna turn water into funk
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Mar 16, 2023 2:45:15 GMT -5
I'll definitely save any hype until we have some actual footage and word of mouth on it. I find Gunn kind of hit and miss to start with and I really just don't put a lot of trust in DC in general these days. Sometimes their projects deliver (The Batman, The Suicide Squad, the first Wonder Woman, and Shazam come immediately to mind as recent-ish successes) but it's still very up in the air.
Though it surely has to be less of a chore to sit through than Man of Steel no matter how it turns out.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 16, 2023 2:53:00 GMT -5
I don't have the highest of hopes for this, tbh. I've greatly enjoyed Gunn's DC output so far (Peacemaker especially was far better than I expected it to be) but most writers tend to have one tone and vibe that they're good at and others that they're mediocre at. And that's not a dig at Gunn specifically, it's the case for all of them. There's a reason Stephen King largely sticks to horror, after all. Honestly, I think Gunn's stuff is strongest when it's played serious. - Groot's sacrifice - Quill and Ego bonding - Nebula and Gamora reconciling - Yondu's sacrifice and funeral - Mantis' confession to Quill - Peacemaker's breakdown - Peacemaker vs. his father One could argue those scenes wouldn't hit as hard if everything else wasn't standard Gunn fare, but he's definitely capable of handling the kind of themes that are likely to be present in S:L with aplomb.
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 16, 2023 7:03:21 GMT -5
I don't have the highest of hopes for this, tbh. I've greatly enjoyed Gunn's DC output so far (Peacemaker especially was far better than I expected it to be) but most writers tend to have one tone and vibe that they're good at and others that they're mediocre at. And that's not a dig at Gunn specifically, it's the case for all of them. There's a reason Stephen King largely sticks to horror, after all. Honestly, I think Gunn's stuff is strongest when it's played serious. - Groot's sacrifice - Quill and Ego bonding - Nebula and Gamora reconciling - Yondu's sacrifice and funeral - Mantis' confession to Quill - Peacemaker's breakdown - Peacemaker vs. his father One could argue those scenes wouldn't hit as hard if everything else wasn't standard Gunn fare, but he's definitely capable of handling the kind of themes that are likely to be present in S:L with aplomb. I mean, yeah, that's my point. Gunn's style is 95% lighthearted irreverence and 5% emotional heart punches. I can't speak on his Marvel work because I don't follow Marvel, but the emotional scenes in Peacemaker wouldn't have worked as well if the tone of the show had changed. And again, this isn't a criticism of Gunn in particular. He has a style that works very, very well and that's more than most writers can say. It's just not a style that will work with Superman, IMO. Maybe he can write an amazing Superman script that hits all of the emotional beats without relying on his usual style. Maybe he can't. We'll see.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 16, 2023 14:46:48 GMT -5
Gunn's been involved with some really dark horror movies, too. He isn't all just GotG-style irreverence. It's just a style that works incredibly well for the Suicide Squad and Peacemaker.
While a number of writers have a preference for certain genres and styles, several of them have had success outside of perceived comfort zones.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Mar 16, 2023 15:06:38 GMT -5
While a number of writers have a preference for certain genres and styles, several of them have had success outside of perceived comfort zones. No more relevant case in point than Craig Mazin – wrote Scary Movie 3 and 4, Superhero Movie, The Hangover 2 and 3, Identity Thief, and Senseless. All comedies, mostly terrible. Also wrote the decidedly not funny but universally praised Chernobyl and The Last of Us.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 16, 2023 15:20:09 GMT -5
I'm willing to give him a shot.
Just don't make the Kents goddamn Randians, please. Absolutely cut the core out of Clark and made him a creep.
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Post by ace on Mar 16, 2023 15:33:07 GMT -5
There are plenty of characters who can provide the comedy around Superman without having to make Superman into StarLord. The Christopher Reeve Superman retained dignity and sentimentality in a Meteopolis that was full of irreverence, sight gags and fast talkers. There were buffoons and comedy sidekicks all over the place in the originals. Didn’t effect Reeve’s performance or the feel of the movie once bit. In fact, stripping away the over the top characters didn’t result in a more heartfelt take on the material since then. It only hurt everything.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 16, 2023 17:53:04 GMT -5
While a number of writers have a preference for certain genres and styles, several of them have had success outside of perceived comfort zones. No more relevant case in point than Craig Mazin – wrote Scary Movie 3 and 4, Superhero Movie, The Hangover 2 and 3, Identity Thief, and Senseless. All comedies, mostly terrible. Also wrote the decidedly not funny but universally praised Chernobyl and The Last of Us. Neil Gaiman's a good example, too. Like, supernatural and dark fantasy is his bread and butter, but he's had so much success outside of that, too.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Mar 16, 2023 20:30:48 GMT -5
There are plenty of characters who can provide the comedy around Superman without having to make Superman into StarLord. The Christopher Reeve Superman retained dignity and sentimentality in a Meteopolis that was full of irreverence, sight gags and fast talkers. There were buffoons and comedy sidekicks all over the place in the originals. Didn’t effect Reeve’s performance or the feel of the movie once bit. In fact, stripping away the over the top characters didn’t result in a more heartfelt take on the material since then. It only hurt everything. One of the many problems with SnyderMan is the lack of Jimmy Olsen (because Snyder hated the character for some reason) or really for Lois to actually have something to do. The Human characters are kinda basically the heart of Superman.
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