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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Mar 16, 2023 22:38:01 GMT -5
Just don't make the Kents goddamn Randians, please. I never really had any problems with this. I just thought of that Thomas Frank book from back in the day and said, that makes sense... it's certainly consistent, at least. Perry White got it 100% correct in that one movie, "but it's not 1938," which is also true about the kind of Sunflower State that Kevin Costner and Diane Lane lived in.
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Mar 16, 2023 23:22:28 GMT -5
All strength be to whoever plays The New Supes. I hope whoever does it nails it but it’s a lot of pressure. And I ain’t even a huge fan of Cavill, but still
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 17, 2023 0:02:11 GMT -5
Just don't make the Kents goddamn Randians, please. I never really had any problems with this. I just thought of that Thomas Frank book from back in the day and said, that makes sense... it's certainly consistent, at least. Perry White got it 100% correct in that one movie, "but it's not 1938," which is also true about the kind of Sunflower State that Kevin Costner and Diane Lane lived in. It just made it where Clark has no clear reason to even be Superman when his parents always instilled in him that it was just someone else's problem. Like, why is he even Superman if that's his belief system?
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Post by "Cane Dewey" Johnson on Mar 17, 2023 0:12:38 GMT -5
I never really had any problems with this. I just thought of that Thomas Frank book from back in the day and said, that makes sense... it's certainly consistent, at least. Perry White got it 100% correct in that one movie, "but it's not 1938," which is also true about the kind of Sunflower State that Kevin Costner and Diane Lane lived in. It just made it where Clark has no clear reason to even be Superman when his parents always instilled in him that it was just someone else's problem. Like, why is he even Superman if that's his belief system? Again, that 2004 Thomas Frank book hits the nail on the head, I think. YMMV. That's as much as I can say about it because of reasons, rules, and regulations.
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Post by Mozenrath on Mar 17, 2023 0:18:01 GMT -5
It just made it where Clark has no clear reason to even be Superman when his parents always instilled in him that it was just someone else's problem. Like, why is he even Superman if that's his belief system? Again, that 2004 Thomas Frank book hits the nail on the head, I think. YMMV. That's as much as I can say about it because of reasons, rules, and regulations. Yeah, understandable, I am as much saying it about how it was handled in the films versus the idea in general. I can buy that it worked better there, whereas the films just really undercooked it.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Mar 17, 2023 3:01:36 GMT -5
Cast Nicolas Cage, Gunn you coward!!
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on May 8, 2023 2:30:04 GMT -5
I figure Sean Gunn, Nathan Fillion, and Michael Rooker are locks.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on May 8, 2023 4:11:47 GMT -5
One of Gunn’s farewell GotG tweets mentioned how much he loved working with Pom Klementieff and how she should be in more projects so I wouldn’t be surprised to see her show up somewhere in the new DCverse eirher.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on May 9, 2023 19:53:23 GMT -5
One of Gunn’s farewell GotG tweets mentioned how much he loved working with Pom Klementieff and how she should be in more projects so I wouldn’t be surprised to see her show up somewhere in the new DCverse eirher. He should cast her as Willow and see who gets the reference.
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Post by tirtefaa on May 9, 2023 20:16:21 GMT -5
What obnoxiously complex way is Jonathan Kent going to die in this one?
Was there a clue in the tweet?
Is Pa Kent going to die of a broken heart on his birthday? Party clown murder? Birthday candle mishap?
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Post by ace on May 9, 2023 20:22:23 GMT -5
Again, that 2004 Thomas Frank book hits the nail on the head, I think. YMMV. That's as much as I can say about it because of reasons, rules, and regulations. Yeah, understandable, I am as much saying it about how it was handled in the films versus the idea in general. I can buy that it worked better there, whereas the films just really undercooked it. Superman having a weakness in the form of a mental block brought on by being raised to fear what reaction to him will be is interesting. It makes him overcoming it to become a symbol of hope to the very people he worried about all the more heroic. Watching your dad die in a tornado was stupid. Even if Snyder will tell me I was too dumb to understand it. There are a thousand better ways to tell that story than they came up with. But unless it involves slow motion and embarrassing needle drops…Snyder is never going to find them.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 8, 2023 14:40:13 GMT -5
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Post by jobber2thestars on Jun 8, 2023 19:31:02 GMT -5
I’ve been reading some issues of Superman and Action Comics from the 70s and 80s, and I love the low stakes stories that get presented. For example, one story had Clark Kent getting sent to Maine for a story, only to stumble upon a 1,000 year old Norse village that had been protected from the world by magic. The village’s protector mistook Superman as a threat, which lead to a big fight before they settled things. A follow up had the village’s protector make his way to Metropolis, only to become disoriented from the smog and technology. He and Superman fought again, but everything was cleared up by the end.
Would that make a great movie? No, probably not, but they were fun stories that show not every Superman problem needs to be a global threat. Smaller stories where Superman is dealing with every day people and helping them with problems are great at showing the kindness put into Superman by the Kents.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jun 8, 2023 20:38:17 GMT -5
I’ve been reading some issues of Superman and Action Comics from the 70s and 80s, and I love the low stakes stories that get presented. For example, one story had Clark Kent getting sent to Maine for a story, only to stumble upon a 1,000 year old Norse village that had been protected from the world by magic. The village’s protector mistook Superman as a threat, which lead to a big fight before they settled things. A follow up had the village’s protector make his way to Metropolis, only to become disoriented from the smog and technology. He and Superman fought again, but everything was cleared up by the end. Would that make a great movie? No, probably not, but they were fun stories that show not every Superman problem needs to be a global threat. Smaller stories where Superman is dealing with every day people and helping them with problems are great at showing the kindness put into Superman by the Kents. I do think there's way too much emphasis by DC and WBD over the last few decades that a Superman movie has to be this amazing movie that completely redefines the genre and makes you re-imagine how you think of Superman. I really really feel everybody needs to step back from that thinking and decide to make a simple, relatively low stakes Superman movie that's just fun to watch.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Jun 8, 2023 21:31:13 GMT -5
Hoult testing for Clark? He could probably pull it off, but dude should be a young Lex.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jun 8, 2023 21:37:46 GMT -5
I never really had any problems with this. I just thought of that Thomas Frank book from back in the day and said, that makes sense... it's certainly consistent, at least. Perry White got it 100% correct in that one movie, "but it's not 1938," which is also true about the kind of Sunflower State that Kevin Costner and Diane Lane lived in. It just made it where Clark has no clear reason to even be Superman when his parents always instilled in him that it was just someone else's problem. Like, why is he even Superman if that's his belief system? Henry Cavill needs to be put in those Bully Maguire videos then, so they can both miss the part where that's their problem.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jun 9, 2023 1:03:41 GMT -5
I like Nicholas Hoult, and I know he also tried out for Batman, but I admit that I have difficulty picturing him as the perfect fit for Superman. I'd love to see him get an opportunity to be a superhero, but I am not sure what would suit him. Of these, David Corenswet would be my choice, even if his non-zero resemblance to Henry Cavill would invite comparisons. He just... REALLY looks like Superman. In any case, all three guys are in the 29-33 age range, which is probably the right choice, both to start fresh and because they will have less concerns of aging out of the role too quickly. I’ve been reading some issues of Superman and Action Comics from the 70s and 80s, and I love the low stakes stories that get presented. For example, one story had Clark Kent getting sent to Maine for a story, only to stumble upon a 1,000 year old Norse village that had been protected from the world by magic. The village’s protector mistook Superman as a threat, which lead to a big fight before they settled things. A follow up had the village’s protector make his way to Metropolis, only to become disoriented from the smog and technology. He and Superman fought again, but everything was cleared up by the end. Would that make a great movie? No, probably not, but they were fun stories that show not every Superman problem needs to be a global threat. Smaller stories where Superman is dealing with every day people and helping them with problems are great at showing the kindness put into Superman by the Kents. I do think there's way too much emphasis by DC and WBD over the last few decades that a Superman movie has to be this amazing movie that completely redefines the genre and makes you re-imagine how you think of Superman. I really really feel everybody needs to step back from that thinking and decide to make a simple, relatively low stakes Superman movie that's just fun to watch. The '90s animated story handled that so well. Some of what Superman dealt with on there was critically important, but a lot of it is, yes, relatively low stakes, and most of what he deals with is a big deal because of its personal impact on him, Lois, or specifically Metropolis itself. It's also part of why Lex is treated as importantly as he is, since it's usually Luthor doing things like shady arms deals that have far-reaching global consequences if left unchecked. If that was the kind of stuff Superman was dealing with in every episode, it'd kind of make Luthor unexceptional. I do think that going back to basics with Superman is doable. I'm not suggesting Day 1, Superman has to leap everywhere, etc, but just, dial it back and make the story a bit more personal, not unlike the initial Christopher Reeves film.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jun 27, 2023 15:38:35 GMT -5
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Post by ace on Jun 27, 2023 15:50:44 GMT -5
I’ve only seen Corenswet in Pearl but he was great in that.
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Post by SHAKEMASTER TV9 is Don Knotts on Jun 27, 2023 15:52:29 GMT -5
He's on Max series We Own This City. Good actor.
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