Tony Khan is no longer a bitch

[The Captain]

May 19, 2023 14:44:53 GMT -5 poodoojenkins said:

I've wanted to support this company since day 1, because I love the Elite and have for a long time.

However, with the way TK has handled Punk, Miro, Andrade, Rosa, MJF, and other situations, I just absolutely can't bring myself to do it.

He is, legitimately, the weakest leader I have ever seen in wrestling.

Say what you want about Vince or Trips, but every single one of those douchebags above would rightfully be sitting in a "Where are they now" file for the remainder of their careers if they had ever acted so disrespectfully toward the roster or bosses.

Also, if you're curious about why it's always been important to have locker room leaders like the Undertaker to help police the guys themselves, study the AEW locker room since pretty much the beginning. They have never had ANYONE who is actually a strong, respected locker room leader, and it shows. You think f***ing Andrade is gonna go around sucker punching people if he has to worry about someone like UT getting to him? Nah.

This company has 2 of the main things that killed WCW: Weak leadership and an out of control locker room.

That's revisionist history. Vince let his boys get away with stuff all the time. See: Michaels, Shawn. And Triple H dug his heels in on guys like Drake Wuertz and Velveteen Dream despite the rest of the NXT locker room wanting nothing nothing to do with them until they were finally cut as part of budget tightening. Or DeMott as an abusive trainer.

Hell, look how many times Jeff Hardy and Jimmy Uso were welcomed back after DUI's and whatnot. Tony Khan is a carny in a carny business, but not uniquely so.

[Chiral]

Yeah I feel like we can goof on Tony for being a bitch without saying "well Vince and HHH may have issues but....."

Mox, Danielson, and Jericho stepped up as locker room leaders too IIRC so we don't need an Undy wrestlers court hopefully lol

[MrElijah]

May 19, 2023 13:14:37 GMT -5 Ecks Ecks Ringout Ecks Ecks said:

Thanks to your ratings thread posts, I'm imagining the thread title being bellowed in Curtis Iaukea's voice.

"SULLIVAN, MY SON!!! LOOK UPON THE WHITE BENGAL BITCH!!"

"Hogan WILL be destroyed this time, Father!"

"NOOOO, NOT HOGAN! FOR HE'S THE SUPREME BITCH BUT NOT HIM! BUT AGAZE UPON TONY KHAAAAN!!"

[Kalmia]

I think people are forgetting that it wasn't that long ago that Rusev was bitching about his WWE booking. Or Mustafa Ali was leading a Twitter hashtag campaign to get released from the company.

Using WWE as an example of a company doing things right is nuts, IMO. Even if it was true, it would be nuts.

[coleslaw]

brb gonna beat up TK and take his lunch money (in minecraft)

[Tom Turkey]

everyone is a birch according to this board.

[Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!!]

I gotta say all this preemptive bitching about a situation we don't really understand or know how it'll play out is getting very childish and tiring.

[Final Countdown Jones]

May 19, 2023 14:44:53 GMT -5 poodoojenkins said:

I've wanted to support this company since day 1, because I love the Elite and have for a long time.

However, with the way TK has handled Punk, Miro, Andrade, Rosa, MJF, and other situations, I just absolutely can't bring myself to do it.

He is, legitimately, the weakest leader I have ever seen in wrestling.

Say what you want about Vince or Trips, but every single one of those douchebags above would rightfully be sitting in a "Where are they now" file for the remainder of their careers if they had ever acted so disrespectfully toward the roster or bosses.

Also, if you're curious about why it's always been important to have locker room leaders like the Undertaker to help police the guys themselves, study the AEW locker room since pretty much the beginning. They have never had ANYONE who is actually a strong, respected locker room leader, and it shows. You think f***ing Andrade is gonna go around sucker punching people if he has to worry about someone like UT getting to him? Nah.

This company has 2 of the main things that killed WCW: Weak leadership and an out of control locker room.

Undertaker was a hypocrite bully who was just as likely to drag someone over coals for minor offenses as he was to let absolute garbage pass because he liked the guy. During the time Taker was a 'locker room leader' people were having passports stolen on European tours as 'pranks'.

[A Little Doo Doo]

Tony reading the thread title (not embedding because language)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXAxXnoJIG4&pp=ygUSdG9ueSBraGFuIGJ1bGxzaGl0

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There should be a mode in EWR where if you do something that the majority of your fanbase dislikes, they start calling you a bitch at the shows tbh

[Fade]

I mean folks

[Kalmia]

May 19, 2023 15:45:56 GMT -5 Tom Turkey said:

everyone is a birch according to this board.

I consider myself more of an oak.

[lavelleuk22]

May 19, 2023 14:44:53 GMT -5 poodoojenkins said:

I've wanted to support this company since day 1, because I love the Elite and have for a long time.

However, with the way TK has handled Punk, Miro, Andrade, Rosa, MJF, and other situations, I just absolutely can't bring myself to do it.

He is, legitimately, the weakest leader I have ever seen in wrestling.

Say what you want about Vince or Trips, but every single one of those douchebags above would rightfully be sitting in a "Where are they now" file for the remainder of their careers if they had ever acted so disrespectfully toward the roster or bosses.

Also, if you're curious about why it's always been important to have locker room leaders like the Undertaker to help police the guys themselves, study the AEW locker room since pretty much the beginning. They have never had ANYONE who is actually a strong, respected locker room leader, and it shows. You think f***ing Andrade is gonna go around sucker punching people if he has to worry about someone like UT getting to him? Nah.

This company has 2 of the main things that killed WCW: Weak leadership and an out of control locker room.

Genuine question, do you do the same for all TV shows you watch or just wrestling? This isn't some small time indy, one person makes no difference. They're a TV show, if you enjoy their show why would you not watch it based on someone's management style? And if you don't like it why would you force yourself to in order to "support" people when it makes no difference?

Just live your life dude, watch what you enjoy, don't watch what you don't. Life's short!

[Soultastic]

WEEEEEEEELL

[bearned]

May 19, 2023 16:22:27 GMT -5 Fade said:

I mean folks

I can’t not look at a picture of him without saying ‘where’s the lie?’ in my head.

[khali]

May 19, 2023 14:44:53 GMT -5 poodoojenkins said:

I've wanted to support this company since day 1, because I love the Elite and have for a long time.

However, with the way TK has handled Punk, Miro, Andrade, Rosa, MJF, and other situations, I just absolutely can't bring myself to do it.

He is, legitimately, the weakest leader I have ever seen in wrestling.

Say what you want about Vince or Trips, but every single one of those douchebags above would rightfully be sitting in a "Where are they now" file for the remainder of their careers if they had ever acted so disrespectfully toward the roster or bosses.

Also, if you're curious about why it's always been important to have locker room leaders like the Undertaker to help police the guys themselves, study the AEW locker room since pretty much the beginning. They have never had ANYONE who is actually a strong, respected locker room leader, and it shows. You think f***ing Andrade is gonna go around sucker punching people if he has to worry about someone like UT getting to him? Nah.

This company has 2 of the main things that killed WCW: Weak leadership and an out of control locker room.

You do not, under any circumstance, got to hand it to the Undertaker.

WWE has had so many instances you can name, but the one I just thought of was when JBL legitimately attacked The Blue Meanie in the ring on PPV. Nothing happened to JBL.

[Zone Was Wrong]

Yeah, look TK looks like a dumbass in this mess, but let's not go with the "grass is greener on the other side of the field" here. The unfortunate reality is every single wrestling promoter ever has had locker room issues on fluctuating scales. That in no way excuses how much of a bitch TK looks by, seemingly, rolling over to ceaselessly appease Punk despite all the issues he's been the root of since joining the company. It's just the nature of the beast that wrestling and stupidity go hand in hand. Just means Tony has once again proven that, while he's been a pretty cool guy at times, he falls for the same shit everyone else has when running a wrestling company.

[EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese]

May 19, 2023 17:00:08 GMT -5 Zone Was Wrong said:

Yeah, look TK looks like a dumbass in this mess, but let's not go with the "grass is greener on the other side of the field" here. The unfortunate reality is every single wrestling promoter ever has had locker room issues on fluctuating scales. That in no way excuses how much of a bitch TK looks by, seemingly, rolling over to ceaselessly appease Punk despite all the issues he's been the root of since joining the company. It's just the nature of the beast that wrestling and stupidity go hand in hand. Just means Tony has once again proven that, while he's been a pretty cool guy at times, he falls for the same shit everyone else has when running a wrestling company.

I mean that’s pretty much it for me. Dude’s fallen into some of the same pitfalls that every other wrestling promoter of note has. A lot of the reaction (to me) seems like extra disappointment because of the belief that he’d learned the lessons about the mistakes of promotions past and present and that this wouldn’t be a thing happening at all in AEW.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

May 19, 2023 17:07:20 GMT -5 EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese said:

May 19, 2023 17:00:08 GMT -5 Zone Was Wrong said:

Yeah, look TK looks like a dumbass in this mess, but let's not go with the "grass is greener on the other side of the field" here. The unfortunate reality is every single wrestling promoter ever has had locker room issues on fluctuating scales. That in no way excuses how much of a bitch TK looks by, seemingly, rolling over to ceaselessly appease Punk despite all the issues he's been the root of since joining the company. It's just the nature of the beast that wrestling and stupidity go hand in hand. Just means Tony has once again proven that, while he's been a pretty cool guy at times, he falls for the same shit everyone else has when running a wrestling company.

I mean that’s pretty much it for me. Dude’s fallen into some of the same pitfalls that every other wrestling promoter of note has. A lot of the reaction (to me) seems like extra disappointment because of the belief that he’d learned the lessons about the mistakes of promotions past and present and that this wouldn’t be a thing happening at all in AEW.

I still think Khan has avoided a lot of mistakes other promoters have or he and AEW wouldn't be succeeding like it is

He has a glaring weak spot though for a guy he's seemingly fawned over since childhood, and that's CM Punk.

[Zone Was Wrong]

May 19, 2023 17:26:18 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

May 19, 2023 17:07:20 GMT -5 EoE: Workin On My Night Cheese said:

I mean that’s pretty much it for me. Dude’s fallen into some of the same pitfalls that every other wrestling promoter of note has. A lot of the reaction (to me) seems like extra disappointment because of the belief that he’d learned the lessons about the mistakes of promotions past and present and that this wouldn’t be a thing happening at all in AEW.

I still think Khan has avoided a lot of mistakes other promoters have or he and AEW wouldn't be succeeding like it is

He has a glaring weak spot though for a guy he's seemingly fawned over since childhood, and that's CM Punk.

I mean there was also the mess with Big Swole and what not, but yeah his failings haven't been as numerous or as immense as some in the business. But it's safe to say the new car smell so to speak has or is worn off from Tony at this point.