Matt Hardy: It's Frustrating how AEW has used the Hardys

[Kalmia]

I can honestly say that in my 30 years of watching wrestling, the vast majority of things that have impacted me the most are matches.

And to be (maybe?) unnecessarily harsh to Matt Hardy, I don't recall any five-star matches or impactful segments in his AEW career so he kind failed on both.

[Gawk Rivers]

“I believe in TNA the Hardy Boyz can get the run that we deserve at this stage of our careers and that is the run to cement our legacy and that is very important to both of us,” Hardy said on the show.

Hardy was asked why he thinks they weren’t given the opportunity to have such a run in AEW.
[12:07 PM]

THAT'S LITERALLY EXACTLY WHAT YOU f***ING GOT 😭 

[Zone Was Wrong]

Jun 20, 2024 14:18:24 GMT -5 Gawk Rivers said:

“I believe in TNA the Hardy Boyz can get the run that we deserve at this stage of our careers and that is the run to cement our legacy and that is very important to both of us,” Hardy said on the show.

Hardy was asked why he thinks they weren’t given the opportunity to have such a run in AEW.
[12:07 PM]

THAT'S LITERALLY EXACTLY WHAT YOU f***ING GOT 😭 

I mean, Tony was ready to put the titles on them until Jeff screwed up again. I don't know what else they were expecting.

[sassafrastaz]

I'm sure Matt loves his brother and all, but I don't blame Tony for not focusing on the Hardys as much after Jeff's DUI, given Jeff's history. Sucks that Matt got caught up in that, but neither Jeff or (especially) Matt were in prime condiition anyway, so it likely made Tony's decision a lot easier. They could still go to a certain extent, but their best days were clearly behind them.

The funny thing about Matt saying that "AEW is more focused on having a five-star match as opposed to having a segment that is hugely impactful and makes a moment," (YMMV on that opinion) is...weren't Matt and Jeff set to win the Tag Team titles before Jeff's DUI? I seem to recall that being the rumour at the time. That would've been an impactful moment of sorts. Not necessarily on Sting's retirement level, but it would've been something.

I wish the Hardys the best of health and hope they're happy where they are now, but I'll be honest when I say AEW is better off without them. Time to give younger tag teams like Private Party some time to shine.

[uewfigfed]

Jun 20, 2024 14:21:33 GMT -5 Zone Was Wrong said:

Jun 20, 2024 14:18:24 GMT -5 Gawk Rivers said:

THAT'S LITERALLY EXACTLY WHAT YOU f***ING GOT 😭 

I mean, Tony was ready to put the titles on them until Jeff screwed up again. I don't know what else they were expecting.

Exactly, Tony was giving them the Stong treatment by lining up a championship run for them to help solidify them as THE tag team in all of wrestling. Then Jeff “Jeff’d” it revealing them to STILL be a huge liability in the final days of their career. At some point you gotta cut your losses when the talent wants to be in denial about hitting their glass ceiling, and Tony STILL did right by them no heat, insults, nothing. But of course Carny ass Matt won’t shut up now.

[Tiger Millionaire]

Must be time to make that grift money. Matt Hardy was in AEW for years, and outside the very early Broken stuff, anything he pivoted to was like paint drying.

[kingoftheindies]

Jun 20, 2024 14:25:40 GMT -5 sassafrastaz said:

I'm sure Matt loves his brother and all, but I don't blame Tony for not focusing on the Hardys as much after Jeff's DUI, given Jeff's history. Sucks that Matt got caught up in that, but neither Jeff or (especially) Matt were in prime condiition anyway, so it likely made Tony's decision a lot easier. They could still go to a certain extent, but their best days were clearly behind them.

The funny thing about Matt saying that "AEW is more focused on having a five-star match as opposed to having a segment that is hugely impactful and makes a moment," (YMMV on that opinion) is...weren't Matt and Jeff set to win the Tag Team titles before Jeff's DUI? I seem to recall that being the rumour at the time. That would've been an impactful moment of sorts. Not necessarily on Sting's retirement level, but it would've been something.

I wish the Hardys the best of health and hope they're happy where they are now, but I'll be honest when I say AEW is better off without them. Time to give younger tag teams like Private Party some time to shine.

I could be misremembering but it wasn't just the DUI. The Hardys were going to win the tag titles, but a mixture of a negative reception to their work and Jeff getting injured on the ppv vs the Young Bucks changed the plans and then the DUI happened. Add that to Matt acting like an idiot on his podcast while Jeff was out probably made Tony lose all interest in pushing the Hardys.

[Jindrak Mark]

Matt calling himself a legend that can still go is peak wrestling delusion. He's been washed in the ring since like 2009 and getting by on Hardy Boyz nostalgia and the broken stuff.

Jeff is an absolute physical wreck and I'd still rather watch him have a singles match and expect it to be better than Matt in 2024.

[SneakMan]

If I may quote myself from half a year ago:

Dec 13, 2023 10:48:15 GMT -5 SneakMan said:

Matt and Jeff are both completely washed physically and Jeff had yet another DWI last year in 2022. They can be frustrated as much as they want, the Hardys taking up any TV time in non-cinematic matches is better than they deserve at this point deserved.

Also between WWE itself and the anti-AEW grifters who suckle at their teat, I never want to hear the word "moment" in a wrestling context again.

[sassafrastaz]

Jun 20, 2024 14:43:52 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

Jun 20, 2024 14:25:40 GMT -5 sassafrastaz said:

I'm sure Matt loves his brother and all, but I don't blame Tony for not focusing on the Hardys as much after Jeff's DUI, given Jeff's history. Sucks that Matt got caught up in that, but neither Jeff or (especially) Matt were in prime condiition anyway, so it likely made Tony's decision a lot easier. They could still go to a certain extent, but their best days were clearly behind them.

The funny thing about Matt saying that "AEW is more focused on having a five-star match as opposed to having a segment that is hugely impactful and makes a moment," (YMMV on that opinion) is...weren't Matt and Jeff set to win the Tag Team titles before Jeff's DUI? I seem to recall that being the rumour at the time. That would've been an impactful moment of sorts. Not necessarily on Sting's retirement level, but it would've been something.

I wish the Hardys the best of health and hope they're happy where they are now, but I'll be honest when I say AEW is better off without them. Time to give younger tag teams like Private Party some time to shine.

I could be misremembering but it wasn't just the DUI. The Hardys were going to win the tag titles, but a mixture of a negative reception to their work and Jeff getting injured on the ppv vs the Young Bucks changed the plans and then the DUI happened. Add that to Matt acting like an idiot on his podcast while Jeff was out probably made Tony lose all interest in pushing the Hardys.

Could be the case. The timeline checks out, since the DUI was within two weeks of that PPV. I'm sure that the Young Bucks wanted to give them the Tag Team titles, being that they're mutually fans of each other's work, and it's on both sides to deliver. The Bucks more often than not do, but the Hardys in AEW...it was hit-and-miss, with more of the latter.

[Mid-Carder]

I would feel bad for Matt's career getting derailed by Jeff if Matt himself didn't milk Jeff and the Hardys cow dry

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

i can't believe matt hardy would be delusional like when has he ever been that

[The Captain]

There are a few people in AEW who you can argue weren't given as many opportunities to shine as they should. Ethan Page, Ricky Starks, Danhausen, etc.

Matt and Jeff Hardy are two of the last people who can make that argument.

[Bo Rida]

Sting had both great moments and matches, helped his protege and was reliable. He remembered the professional part of being a pro wrestler and adapted to the environment.

Matt did a lot of talking and imo only two of those segments were really memorable, his matches were poor, his protégés were better off without him to the point Ethan Page left and his brother was unreliable.

His best moment was Jericho unleashing the hounds on vanguard 1, putting him a distant fourth in what made that moment.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Matt blaming everyone but himself is just about right

You were about to be handed the tag belts when you didn't deserve them, and Jeff f***ed that up, and f***ed that up because you seemingly enabled him to f*** up again

And instead of taking responsibility all they've done since that is bitch and moan. You were given the run you deserved and then some in AEW, and would've had more if you simply didn't be stupid, and you were stupid, so you got what you deserved.

[Fade]

Jun 20, 2024 14:03:51 GMT -5 kingoftheindies said:

[Kalmia]

It really is fascinating to compare the AEW careers of Matt and Jeff with those of Copeland and Christian. Copeland has only been in AEW for five minutes and he's done more than Matt and Jeff combined and Christian is arguably one of AEW's best ever signings.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jun 20, 2024 18:16:52 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

It really is fascinating to compare the AEW careers of Matt and Jeff with those of Copeland and Christian. Copeland has only been in AEW for five minutes and he's done more than Matt and Jeff combined and Christian is arguably one of AEW's best ever signings.

They reinvented themselves where Matt refused and Jeff just decided to do the nostalgia act along with him

It does help of course that Christian and Copeland aren't broken down and can still go in ring, but ultimately, if you're slowing down in ring and can reinvent yourself to find a gimmick that works, it can still get you TV Time and a push, as evidenced by Jericho.

[Facetious]

I don't know why I'm shocked that Matt still thinks so highly of himself. His whole career is him sniffing his own farts while Jeff doesn't even try and is far more successful.

His whole AEW run was him trying to attach himself to other acts to stay on TV as long as he could. Then when that was falling to the wayside, he recruited Jeff. Then that failed when it was obvious that neither brother was capable of doing anything decent even with hard carry jobs and then Jeff's personal demons came back and derailed the whole bit.

[kingoftheindies]

Jun 20, 2024 18:25:53 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Jun 20, 2024 18:16:52 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

It really is fascinating to compare the AEW careers of Matt and Jeff with those of Copeland and Christian. Copeland has only been in AEW for five minutes and he's done more than Matt and Jeff combined and Christian is arguably one of AEW's best ever signings.

They reinvented themselves where Matt refused and Jeff just decided to do the nostalgia act along with him

It does help of course that Christian and Copeland aren't broken down and can still go in ring, but ultimately, if you're slowing down in ring and can reinvent yourself to find a gimmick that works, it can still get you TV Time and a push, as evidenced by Jericho.

Matt did try the Big Money Matt stuff and... it just didn't work. HFO was awful too