Seth's title run BLOWS BLOWSBLOWSBLOOOOOOOOOOWS

[Lizuka #BLM]

Blunt title but like, it's been five consecutive months of, "Look, a really cool and interesting option for a potential champion with a ton of story possibilities, let's instead stick with the guy whose entire character is going WHOA-OH-OHH-OHHHHHHHHH and complaining about his back that doesn't seem to actually even kind of hurt." This reign suuuuuucks.

Edit: Edited to be funnier.

[The Gallus Mark]

One of the worst face characters ever. Not even this specific version of Seth, but every version of him.

[EoE: Well There's Your Problem]

How do you book a guy that every time he’s heel people start cheering him, but every time he’s face people start hating him? And it’s not like he’s a bad wrestler or even not over, so being off of TV or released isn’t an option here.

Is he just not meant to be champion?

[A Little Doo Doo]

I'm still a fan, but he should've lost it at either Money in the Bank or SummerSlam. Shit's gotten stale and I don't think the Punk feud needs the title whatsoever.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Dec 4, 2023 23:11:43 GMT -5 EoE: Well There's Your Problem said:

How do you book a guy that every time he’s heel people start cheering him, but every time he’s face people start hating him? And it’s not like he’s a bad wrestler or even not over, so being off of TV or released isn’t an option here.

Is he just not meant to be champion?

I think it's just... Not this. Like, Seth can be entertaining, I don't even really mind him as a face (like his run as Intercontinental champion, that was pretty solid other than the terrible Ambrose match), but what he's doing right now just feels so vacant and hollow and half-baked, and they're doing him no favors 1), making him an eternal champion at a point in time when the belt should be the alternative option to the other one being bogged down in the same thing, and 2), having a rotation of one challenger after another after another after another, heel or face, that would be more interesting to follow as champion right now. Finn, Priest, Zayn, Jey, Nakamura, McIntyre, all of it has way more fascinating storyline avenues to go down than this same old crap over and over and over and over.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

I'm gonna be real here, I don't even think it is Seth's fault. What I am pissed off about is that this f***ing title was seemingly created to give people on Raw something to do but also take some heat off Roman having the title for 50 years but they refuse to move it around even the littlest bit?

Finn should've won it, Nakamura should've won it, hell Jey winning it tonight would be an all time moment but they just gotta have everyone hold onto each title for years at a time until March-April?

[The Rick Jericho]

Dec 4, 2023 23:14:23 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

I'm gonna be real here, I don't even think it is Seth's fault. What I am pissed off about is that this f***ing title was seemingly created to give people on Raw something to do but also take some heat off Roman having the title for 50 years but they refuse to move it around even the littlest bit?

Finn should've won it, Nakamura should've won it, hell Jey winning it tonight would be an all time moment but they just gotta have everyone hold onto each title for years at a time until March-April?

DP should've won it.

Sami should win it.

Drew should've won it.

That's a lot of guys who would've been better champions right now than Seth.

Overexposed and overcooked.

[J is Justice]

So many endless title reigns...

[Lizuka #BLM]

Another thing not helping is that EVERY title on Raw right now has this issue. Rhea is ruling a barren kingdom because we can't do the Becky match until April, Gunther has to keep holding the belt forever and ever and ever because HISTORIC, the tag titles basically just bounced from a stable that's constantly bickering to a stable that's constantly bickering... Nothing is ever allowed to happen.

[J is Justice]

Are they seriously gonna have everyone lose their title at WrestleMania? Lol.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Dec 4, 2023 23:16:38 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

Dec 4, 2023 23:14:23 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

I'm gonna be real here, I don't even think it is Seth's fault. What I am pissed off about is that this f***ing title was seemingly created to give people on Raw something to do but also take some heat off Roman having the title for 50 years but they refuse to move it around even the littlest bit?

Finn should've won it, Nakamura should've won it, hell Jey winning it tonight would be an all time moment but they just gotta have everyone hold onto each title for years at a time until March-April?

DP should've won it.

Sami should win it.

Drew should've won it.

That's a lot of guys who would've been better champions right now than Seth.

Overexposed and overcooked.

literally any of them man. any of them. for the love of god please have some title changes and not just telegraphed for one show a year and if it doesn't happen you know the next time is in a year i beg you wwe.

having this title reign go forever, roman's and mjf's is driving me insane 

[The Rick Jericho]

Dec 4, 2023 23:18:11 GMT -5 J is Justice said:

Are they seriously gonna have everyone lose their title at WrestleMania? Lol.

Nope.

Logan Paul will retain at Wrestlemania just to piss us all off.

[asuka007]

They tell us that the guy’a back is almost crippled. Yet he’s also Superman who kicks out of absolutely everything and then wins?

[The Rick Jericho]

Dec 4, 2023 23:18:36 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

Dec 4, 2023 23:16:38 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

DP should've won it.

Sami should win it.

Drew should've won it.

That's a lot of guys who would've been better champions right now than Seth.

Overexposed and overcooked.

literally any of them man. any of them. for the love of god please have some title changes and not just telegraphed for one show a year and if it doesn't happen you know the next time is in a year i beg you wwe.

having this title reign go forever, roman's and mjf's is driving me insane 

Who is the TNA world champion?

That would give us the holy trinity if WWE, AEW and Impact all have REIGN OF TERROR world title runs.

[Lizuka #BLM]

Dec 4, 2023 23:19:37 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

Dec 4, 2023 23:18:36 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

literally any of them man. any of them. for the love of god please have some title changes and not just telegraphed for one show a year and if it doesn't happen you know the next time is in a year i beg you wwe.

having this title reign go forever, roman's and mjf's is driving me insane 

Who is the TNA world champion?

That would give us the holy trinity if WWE, AEW and Impact all have REIGN OF TERROR world title runs.

Alex Shelley has it and it's kind of starting to get there, he's had it for six months and isn't even defending it on the next PPV.

[The Rick Jericho]

Please END THE REIGN like this for Seth.

[clc]

Seth was the right guy to be the inaugural champion. He's the only guy with a win over Roman, so putting the Not-Roman belt on Seth was the right move if they wanted some shred of credibility to the title. Keeping it on him has made the title so boring, it's worthless.
I like Seth. He probably my favorite man wrestler, but he should have dropped that tile at multiple points. Nakamura would have been my choice.

[HIM]

He's been champion for over 6 months now. Those beginning months were cool but after the Nakamura feud, after that "bad backed Seth" stuff, after even Jey Uso getting his shot, like we gotta call it what it is. Seth is clearly being setup for Punk so given this reaction they're going to keep him as champion for a while and shit, he'll probably turn heel. Either way I don't appreciate this at all. That Nakamura feud should have been it with the level of danger they said Seth had with his injury. It's just weird man.

If you're going to make someone hold the belt for over 5 months then they damn sure better be an amazing babyface. Seth is cool and all but for this long? Nah, we got others who can do this better.

[UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm]

Dec 4, 2023 23:19:37 GMT -5 The Rick Jericho said:

Dec 4, 2023 23:18:36 GMT -5 UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm said:

literally any of them man. any of them. for the love of god please have some title changes and not just telegraphed for one show a year and if it doesn't happen you know the next time is in a year i beg you wwe.

having this title reign go forever, roman's and mjf's is driving me insane 

Who is the TNA world champion?

That would give us the holy trinity if WWE, AEW and Impact all have REIGN OF TERROR world title runs.

shelley back in june

i know the usual thing everyone says is "do you want hot potato booking again" and honestly compared to this, yes. it isn't like this title itself is going to be made more valid holding onto it for years, it'll probably always be the title that was made/brought back because they booked themselves into a corner with roman. have some actual fun out there with the storylines/title instead of trying to artificially create importance for a title that deadass ain't happening.

[The Rick Jericho]

Dec 4, 2023 23:22:21 GMT -5 clc said:

Seth was the right guy to be the inaugural champion. He's the only guy with a win over Roman, so putting the Not-Roman belt on Seth was the right move if they wanted some shred of credibility to the title. Keeping it on him has made the title so boring, it's worthless.
I like Seth. He probably my favorite man wrestler, but he should have dropped that tile at multiple points. Nakamura would have been my choice.

I was ready and the live crowd in Detroit while I was there for Summerslam was ready.

We were PISSED he retained. Finn had him with his finisher and the crowd thought that was it.

He was a good choice for first ever champion but that reign should've been over at Summerslam.