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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 4, 2023 23:24:28 GMT -5
Who is the TNA world champion? That would give us the holy trinity if WWE, AEW and Impact all have REIGN OF TERROR world title runs. shelley back in june i know the usual thing everyone says is "do you want hot potato booking again" and honestly compared to this, yes. it isn't like this title itself is going to be made more valid holding onto it for years, it'll probably always be the title that was made/brought back because they booked themselves into a corner with roman. have some actual fun out there with the storylines/title instead of trying to artificially create importance for a title that deadass ain't happening. Also, like... Unironically yes, I would rather the title change hands every single week for a year straight than ever sit through a year long title reign again. Anything is better than these interminable must-stall-for-April holding patterns that have utterly f***ing infested wrestling in the past decade.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 4, 2023 23:24:43 GMT -5
I wish we had the manpower here to get this thread to 10 pages by the morning.
Glad we all agree Seth is overcooked.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 4, 2023 23:24:49 GMT -5
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Post by A Little Doo Doo on Dec 4, 2023 23:25:03 GMT -5
Seth was the right guy to be the inaugural champion. He's the only guy with a win over Roman, so putting the Not-Roman belt on Seth was the right move if they wanted some shred of credibility to the title. Keeping it on him has made the title so boring, it's worthless. I like Seth. He probably my favorite man wrestler, but he should have dropped that tile at multiple points. Nakamura would have been my choice. I was ready and the live crowd in Detroit while I was there for Summerslam was ready. We were PISSED he retained. Finn had him with his finisher and the crowd thought that was it. He was a good choice for first ever champion but that reign should've been over at Summerslam. Wait, you're from Detroit?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Dec 4, 2023 23:26:08 GMT -5
I wish we had the manpower here to get this thread to 10 pages by the morning. Glad we all agree Seth is overcooked. I didn’t agree to that. Then again I’m not watching the shows because of work, so maybe I’m not feeling the full effect here.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 4, 2023 23:26:20 GMT -5
I was ready and the live crowd in Detroit while I was there for Summerslam was ready. We were PISSED he retained. Finn had him with his finisher and the crowd thought that was it. He was a good choice for first ever champion but that reign should've been over at Summerslam. Wait, you're from Detroit? I flew in to Detroit that weekend. Man, I really need to find all my videos and pics from the show. Between that a Forbidden Door, I had a good summer. This was why I was mysterious absent from the Summerslam thread. Edit: That IYO cash in was LIT live!
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Dec 4, 2023 23:27:32 GMT -5
I await this time next year when there's a thread about Cody's (hopefully) world title run being dogshit.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 4, 2023 23:27:47 GMT -5
I wish we had the manpower here to get this thread to 10 pages by the morning. Glad we all agree Seth is overcooked. I didn’t agree to that. Then again I’m not watching the shows because of work, so maybe I’m not feeling the full effect here. Yeah, if you watch week to week, you feel the Seth affect. But I know what you mean when you say, if you don't, you can't tell. Seth is like that fancy toy, that if you look at it once in a while, you go, NICE. But if you look at your fancy toy every week, you have diminishing returns each and every time you stare at it.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Dec 4, 2023 23:28:11 GMT -5
shelley back in june i know the usual thing everyone says is "do you want hot potato booking again" and honestly compared to this, yes. it isn't like this title itself is going to be made more valid holding onto it for years, it'll probably always be the title that was made/brought back because they booked themselves into a corner with roman. have some actual fun out there with the storylines/title instead of trying to artificially create importance for a title that deadass ain't happening. Also, like... Unironically yes, I would rather the title change hands every single week for a year straight than ever sit through a year long title reign again. Anything is better than these interminable must-stall-for-April holding patterns that have utterly f***ing infested wrestling in the past decade. we're being robbed of a lot but you could even say seth is being robbed of the chance to get even more over. it is like these companies have forgotten just how over people can get when they lose their title but have to chase, scratch and claw to get their title back that they lost. i hate it and it makes everything so much more dull than it has to be for no reason at all
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 4, 2023 23:30:06 GMT -5
I await this time next year when there's a thread about Cody's (hopefully) world title run being dogshit. If they are smart, he drops it at Summerslam or Survivor Series. Cody is the perfect guy to have the Bret and Shawn wrestlemania title win run. Take it off of him by Survivor Series at the latest before he's cooked. Bret had that happen in 1994 and Shawn in 1996. Identical lengths of title runs for both men and it was right. Diesel and Sid being new champions, at least made TV fresh.
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Post by J is Justice on Dec 4, 2023 23:30:49 GMT -5
These endless reigns make it impossible to get invested in title matches because you know the belt is never changing hands.
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Post by Fade on Dec 4, 2023 23:30:59 GMT -5
I wish we had the manpower here to get this thread to 10 pages by the morning. Glad we all agree Seth is overcooked. I didn’t agree to that. Then again I’m not watching the shows because of work, so maybe I’m not feeling the full effect here. Yea I only caught the main event so im confused to the vitriol here. I didn’t expect jey to win for a second and I love jey. Seth’s their biggest dude aside cody who can’t get belt becuz finish the story. Narratively, yea would have been cool with Finn or nak winning it but I don’t hate Seth’s reign.
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 4, 2023 23:31:36 GMT -5
I await this time next year when there's a thread about Cody's (hopefully) world title run being dogshit. I mean, I probably would be saying Cody's title reign sucks if it's still going eight months after he wins it. Six months should be the absolute goddamn maximum and preferably even that would be rare.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Dec 4, 2023 23:32:21 GMT -5
I await this time next year when there's a thread about Cody's (hopefully) world title run being dogshit. even the biggest of us cody fans have mostly said the money was in him getting it at mania and losing it to someone like gunther down the line because of him being a white hot babyface that is great chasing the title this is the first title reign of a title they specifically made because they knew they couldn't have anyone win the other one and it is just seemingly staying on seth no matter what until mania, like every other singles title in the company
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 4, 2023 23:33:51 GMT -5
I didn’t agree to that. Then again I’m not watching the shows because of work, so maybe I’m not feeling the full effect here. Yea I only caught the main event so im confused to the vitriol here. I didn’t expect jey to win for a second and I love jey. Seth’s their biggest dude aside cody who can’t get belt becuz finish the story. Narratively, yea would have been cool with Finn or nak winning it but I don’t hate Seth’s reign. I feel that most of us are just waiting for DP to cash in. Each time he doesn't with a weak looking Seth, he's killing not only his own character cred, DP, but make Seth look like superman each time DP doesn't go for it. At this rate, DP is totally the wrong guy to have it if he's resistant on making the move. The JD drama is the front seat with the MITB is the backseat and that is just wrong. We want to see the cash in once and for all, so we can move on, even if DP chokes.
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Post by Perd on Dec 4, 2023 23:34:14 GMT -5
So it tastes better than it smells?
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Post by Friday Night SmackOwn on Dec 4, 2023 23:35:54 GMT -5
I await this time next year when there's a thread about Cody's (hopefully) world title run being dogshit. If they are smart, he drops it at Summerslam or Survivor Series. Cody is the perfect guy to have the Bret and Shawn wrestlemania title win run. Take it off of him by Survivor Series at the latest before he's cooked. Bret had that happen in 1994 and Shawn in 1996. Identical lengths of title runs for both men and it was right. Diesel and Sid being new champions, at least made TV fresh. Ideally, he'd drop it at Bash in Berlin to Gunther.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 4, 2023 23:36:51 GMT -5
It's too bad this is a Raw belt, some guys on Smackdown could use this one too.
Knight Lashley Orton Styles Santos
Just to name a few.
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Post by The Rick Jericho on Dec 4, 2023 23:37:19 GMT -5
If they are smart, he drops it at Summerslam or Survivor Series. Cody is the perfect guy to have the Bret and Shawn wrestlemania title win run. Take it off of him by Survivor Series at the latest before he's cooked. Bret had that happen in 1994 and Shawn in 1996. Identical lengths of title runs for both men and it was right. Diesel and Sid being new champions, at least made TV fresh. Ideally, he'd drop it at Bash in Berlin to Gunther. I'd take that, assuming Gunther's Visa issues are clear and he can travel again. Let's hope.
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Post by Fade on Dec 4, 2023 23:43:48 GMT -5
Yea I only caught the main event so im confused to the vitriol here. I didn’t expect jey to win for a second and I love jey. Seth’s their biggest dude aside cody who can’t get belt becuz finish the story. Narratively, yea would have been cool with Finn or nak winning it but I don’t hate Seth’s reign. I feel that most of us are just waiting for DP to cash in. Each time he doesn't with a weak looking Seth, he's killing not only his own character cred, DP, but make Seth look like superman each time DP doesn't go for it. At this rate, DP is totally the wrong guy to have it if he's resistant on making the move. The JD drama is the front seat with the MITB is the backseat and that is just wrong. We want to see the cash in once and for all, so we can move on, even if DP chokes. Oh I get that 100%. You’re right. They really should have given knight the briefcase. Even if you’re a fan of DP all of that is 100% true
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