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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Dec 7, 2023 9:15:45 GMT -5
Well I would hope that’s not the case because that would be insane to retire that but keep Seth’s title. There’s already rich history with the Universal Championship. Meanwhile Seth’s belt is meaningless by comparison. There are kids that have been watching the product since covid, watching Reigns carry the Universal title and thinking “one day I want to win the Universal championship.” Nobody on the planet is thinking that about Seth’s. I mean, is it really that rich of a history that it can’t be gotten rid of in 2024? Like, look at it. A one-day reign for Balor because of injury, what a way to start, throwing a bunch of plans out the window. A significantly mid reign for Owens largely highlighted for Jericho doing a big gimmick. Goldberg getting a run nearly 20 years after his prime. Lesnar getting an interminable run to set up a finish with Reigns that they wussed out of at WM34 and then didn’t even really do all that convincingly at SummerSlam 2018. The belt being vacated again because of Reigns’s leukaemia returning, just to be put back on Lesnar. Rollins honest-to-goodness earning a run only to have all his goodwill drained by a feud with Corbin, another feud with Lesnar where they trade the belt, and then the one with Wyatt that had an all-time industry-leading stinker as part of it. Wyatt having a mid run that ended with ANOTHER GOLDBERG RUN. A Strowman run that he lucks into because of Reigns pulling out in the early days of COVID, and ends up being one of the most unmemorable world title runs ever. Finally he loses it back to Wyatt just for him to transition it to Reigns in literally a week for THIS run. I’m not normally someone who’s like “Get rid of the thing, it’s beyond saving”, but when you’re looking down the barrel at possibly having three world titles in the territory at the same time when you only can really logically justify two, what goes? This eight-year-old belt that has some of WWE’s smelliest ever baggage attached to it? Or this newer one that shouldn’t really exist, but hasn’t had anything more egregious than “X should’ve won” happen with it? I totally get what you mean, but there have still been some bright spots previously, and Reigns has obviously reset the prestige to the title. It still makes way more sense to me to just split them and trash Seth’s belt 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by clc on Dec 7, 2023 9:29:58 GMT -5
Cody simply not wanting the belt is another really bad thing hanging over Seth's run with it.
Seth is "the fighting champion". He is giving title shots to everyone that deserves it. Cody beats everyone he faces, including Seth. Seth should be treating Cody like his Max Schmeling. When Joe Louis won the title, he knew he had to avenge his loss to Max Schmeling to really be considered the best. Which he did. They even have Seth and Cody admitting they don't like each other, so Cody saying, "We're friends, I don't want to fight you for this allegedly prestigious title" does not work as an out. It's too late now with the build up to Cody's Roman rematch, but a quick loss to Seth would not have harmed Cody anymore than his loss at Wrestlemania.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Dec 7, 2023 10:38:35 GMT -5
Cody simply not wanting the belt is another really bad thing hanging over Seth's run with it. Seth is "the fighting champion". He is giving title shots to everyone that deserves it. Cody beats everyone he faces, including Seth. Seth should be treating Cody like his Max Schmeling. When Joe Louis won the title, he knew he had to avenge his loss to Max Schmeling to really be considered the best. Which he did. They even have Seth and Cody admitting they don't like each other, so Cody saying, "We're friends, I don't want to fight you for this allegedly prestigious title" does not work as an out. It's too late now with the build up to Cody's Roman rematch, but a quick loss to Seth would not have harmed Cody anymore than his loss at Wrestlemania. Cody's at least tried to explain it in interviews as "yes, this title is prestigious, but Roman's title is the one that dates back to the title my father never won." I suspect Seth beating Cody at this point would have folks going more "whoa, what'd Cody do backstage" as opposed to "that's a big win for Seth," so I see why they haven't done it. I wouldn't be shocked if they wound up trading one of the belts back and forth in the next year or so, though. They're definitely going to go back to that match at some point after Cody (god willing) beats Roman at Mania 40.
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