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Post by BigPoppaNasty on Mar 28, 2024 11:09:18 GMT -5
What I'm most curious about here is how we get to what I assume is Toni vs Rosa vs Deonna, I assume Deonna needs another win or two, Rosa's already there. They're keeping Deeb warm too I have a guess. Tony will just arbitrarily give the title shots to whomever he was already planning on and either make the rankings fit the planned match regardless of match results or ignore them entirely.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Mar 28, 2024 11:12:14 GMT -5
What I'm most curious about here is how we get to what I assume is Toni vs Rosa vs Deonna, I assume Deonna needs another win or two, Rosa's already there. They're keeping Deeb warm too I have a guess. Tony will just arbitrarily give the title shots to whomever he was already planning on and either make the rankings fit the planned match regardless of match results or ignore them entirely. Is it confirmed that he was going to do "Only #1 can get title shots?"
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Post by eJm on Mar 28, 2024 11:13:26 GMT -5
I mean, not being funny, but you do realize that sort of stuff contributes the same amount, right? Because all that does it make nobody want to add anything to discussions which goes against the point. I got time today so f*** it, how so? When I'm making a definitive point ("damn, these rankings are bad, here's some ways to fix it") and the response is just basically "nuh uh"...well, ok, but can I get a little more substance from the argument that you felt strongly enough to lean into? It really is ok to acknowledge that maybe something isn't working and needs to be adjusted. I mean, honestly, your argument is just "Well, they're fake, it doesn't matter" so I don't know what it'd take to actually counter an argument. Swerve didn't get pinned in the world title match, still has a positive record and just needed to beat another guy with a mostly positive record to solidify his ranking. Will's had less matches this year so needs to climb the ranks as others have done for all these things. Along with the other stuff I've said, I don't know what else you want. It's not a worthwhile topic to be this annoyed about. Like...you ended one of your posts with "Who cares? what are we arguing about?" like you expected everyone to agree with you and...come on now, you've been here long enough to know better than that.
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Post by Cyno on Mar 28, 2024 11:40:44 GMT -5
I mean, not being funny, but you do realize that sort of stuff contributes the same amount, right? Because all that does it make nobody want to add anything to discussions which goes against the point. I got time today so f*** it, how so? When I'm making a definitive point ("damn, these rankings are bad, here's some ways to fix it") and the response is just basically "nuh uh"...well, ok, but can I get a little more substance from the argument that you felt strongly enough to lean into? It really is ok to acknowledge that maybe something isn't working and needs to be adjusted. Maybe if your posts weren't so obnoxiously over the top on the subject, you'd get less combative replies. Doesn't help that the premise of your original post is just outright false (Takeshita not having any quality wins that would put him in line for a number 1 contender match).
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Post by Kalmia on Mar 28, 2024 12:59:15 GMT -5
I still think there should be a "rankings committee" that is kayfabe responsible for the rankings. Makes it clearer that it's not just numbers on the board but strength of performances as well. You could even present the rankings each month in a promo (on TV or social media) where some of the decisions are explained.
It won't stop all of the arguments but maybe it'll quieten some of them..?
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 28, 2024 14:51:17 GMT -5
Gotta love the constructive comments being placed in this thread that boil down to "Tony doesn't care and never cared" and "This is only something he remembers between coke binges"
Really civil, good faith arguments being placed here over a f***ing ranking system that really, by all intents and purposes, is not that f***ing serious.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 28, 2024 14:52:06 GMT -5
What I'm most curious about here is how we get to what I assume is Toni vs Rosa vs Deonna, I assume Deonna needs another win or two, Rosa's already there. They're keeping Deeb warm too I have a guess. Tony will just arbitrarily give the title shots to whomever he was already planning on and either make the rankings fit the planned match regardless of match results or ignore them entirely. I like how I just offhand mused at how Deonna gets in the match, likely winning a match or two before Dynasty, and got the equivalent of Carl from Aqua Teen shouting "IT DOESN'T MATTER, NONE OF THIS MATTERS" at me Real positive vibes in here...
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Post by daaave on Mar 28, 2024 15:33:38 GMT -5
I really don't get why people get some confused by these rankings. These top 5 mens have the best record for 2024 from quickly skimming the W/L records. What's the problem
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Mar 28, 2024 15:45:12 GMT -5
My thoughts:
How did Moxley move up when he hasn't wrestled since Revolution, and his last singles match was early February, at least?
Ospreay vs. Danielson should determine an opponent for either Okada or Strong.
Big Bill and Starks still being ranked when they haven't wrestled since they lost the titles is infuriating lol
Mariah being number two is very interesting. I think it's time to strap Willow up with the TBS Title and get Statlander back in the hunt. Serena is the wildcard, since it's hard to say which title she goes after.
The trios division continues to be completely disappointing...
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Post by Cyno on Mar 28, 2024 18:37:06 GMT -5
My thoughts: How did Moxley move up when he hasn't wrestled since Revolution, and his last singles match was early February, at least? Ospreay vs. Danielson should determine an opponent for either Okada or Strong. Big Bill and Starks still being ranked when they haven't wrestled since they lost the titles is infuriating lol Mariah being number two is very interesting. I think it's time to strap Willow up with the TBS Title and get Statlander back in the hunt. Serena is the wildcard, since it's hard to say which title she goes after. The trios division continues to be completely disappointing... The Acclaimed's reign has been a complete wet fart with the Trios belts, especially with whatever the hell Max Caster has been going through lately. Hopefully they're setting up the BBG to take them and have a better run with them.
At this point, I wouldn't even bother with regular tag-team rankings because the belts are vacant and there's an elimination tournament for them. I'd just start everyone off at 0-0 post-Dynasty.
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Post by The Summer of Muskrat XVII on Mar 29, 2024 0:00:39 GMT -5
I was really hoping they were gonna make the rankings work but no, f*** it. Just don’t bother. They aren’t adding anything
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Mar 29, 2024 3:27:49 GMT -5
I was really hoping they were gonna make the rankings work but no, f*** it. Just don’t bother. They aren’t adding anything I think it's kind of way too soon to decree this, they've been a thing for three months and everyone's already acting like it's doomsday because someone isn't completely logically where they should be in the middle of the chart maybe. I feel like the issue with the rankings is legit how much stock some people are taking into them, to the point it feels like no one could do them in a way that's satisfying, not just AEW It's like people go full Cinemasins when they're released and no one should ever go full Cinemasins.
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Post by bearned on Mar 29, 2024 5:08:15 GMT -5
Yeah my problem is that so many people don’t ‘get’ the rankings that the positives of doing it are completely drowned out by arguing over them. Maybe that’s not a good enough reason not to do them but it certainly doesn’t help with the generally negative discourse at the moment.
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Post by Alyce: Old Media Enthusiast on Apr 3, 2024 20:27:53 GMT -5
And now Mercedes openly challenging for the TBS title. So, like what is even the point of bringing rankings back if someone can open challenge?
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Post by Fade is a CodyCryBaby on Apr 3, 2024 20:45:56 GMT -5
And now Mercedes openly challenging for the TBS title. So, like what is even the point of bringing rankings back if someone can open challenge? Lmfao, same shit’s going to happen again where slowly but surely they’re quietly ignored until they’re gone again.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 3, 2024 20:56:53 GMT -5
And now Mercedes openly challenging for the TBS title. So, like what is even the point of bringing rankings back if someone can open challenge? The open challenges were always a thing, the rankings have always been for the world titles the most.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 3, 2024 20:57:41 GMT -5
And now Mercedes openly challenging for the TBS title. So, like what is even the point of bringing rankings back if someone can open challenge? Lmfao, same shit’s going to happen again where slowly but surely they’re quietly ignored until they’re gone again. Good, because people complain incessantly about them and every minute detail about their existence, so maybe they should just go away Really fun idea taken way too seriously tbh
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Post by ace on Apr 3, 2024 21:05:22 GMT -5
Lmfao, same shit’s going to happen again where slowly but surely they’re quietly ignored until they’re gone again. Good, because people complain incessantly about them and every minute detail about their existence, so maybe they should just go away Really fun idea taken way too seriously tbh They just told you that someone with no matches can name themselves top contender after telling you rankings matter again. your anger at people that aren’t Tony is misplaced as usual. Be mad at his nonsense. Not at people for holding it to the smallest standard of logic. People who don’t eat every nugget of shit from AEW with a smile on their face. Many of whom USED to buy tickets and watch the shows.
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Post by Zone Was Wrong on Apr 3, 2024 21:12:25 GMT -5
The TBS title has never adhered to the ranking systems. Only the main titles do. The secondary titles are normally open challenge. Jade went through so many people without records.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Apr 3, 2024 21:14:20 GMT -5
The TBS title has never adhered to the ranking systems. Only the main titles do. The secondary titles are normally open challenge. Jade went through so many people without records. It's always been this way yet it'll be a problem now that the rankings exist yet again because there has to be seven thousand things wrong with the ranking system, and apparently, if you point out this logic, you "eat every nugget of AEW shit and smile" Real fun energy in this board right now, as I said...
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