UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm
Fry's dog Seymour
Sponsored by Arizona Green Tea/Peanuts But Only At Baseball Stadiums/Biscuits Cat Adoption Agency
Posts: 24,160
|
Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 4, 2024 1:51:34 GMT -5
So this thread will probably go over very poorly and I'm totally aware of that. I mentioned this a tiny bit in the live thread and saw someone say in a deleted post after the show that it is an odd choice in the storyline which gave me the idea to actually go through with it but here we go.
Wrestling is at its best when you're not taking it seriously and I'm not entirely humorless (obviously), I can separate the storyline from stuff in the real world that might be shitty or what have you. I've been a fan of seeing what they're building with Dom/Liv for a while now but tonight, it got a bit strange and uncomfortable for me?
Making a Liv thread sounds like absolute death but I thought she came off really really bad tonight and maybe a bit too far unless she's going to be some mega heel. I was super into the idea of Dom being enough of a scumbag to cheat on Rhea because Rhea is gone and Liv is that far gone to where she wants to take Rhea's man but on Raw tonight, she was like.. cornering the dude and he was backing up on several occasions? It is almost assuredly Dom in storyline acting like he isn't interested in her but actually is because he is that much of a heel but if it was any other wrestler male or female that wasn't seen as super hot, that character would just be called this or that.
It feels like hearing about a story and it's brushed off cause "well is the teacher hot" or something. I'm sure this storyline will end up good but I'll be honest, I was hoping all night they'd just rush to Dom revealing he's in on the whole thing immediately so we wouldn't have additional weeks of Liv harassing the f*** out of this dude, even if he is the most hated heel in the business besides Gable or Callis at times. Again... This is probably one a short term thing that will lead to Dom saying it was his idea or some shit and yes things were edgier back in the day but this felt strange. Probably didn't to much anyone else I'm expecting and I'm just seeing shit lmao. I guess I just thought with the kiss it would start both of the two being absolute shitheads but that's not what we got, we got some lady harassing the f*** out of some guy and trying to grab his dick. Sure she's attractive but uh?
How do you feel about the storyline after tonight?
|
|
|
Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 4, 2024 1:59:44 GMT -5
It’s hard to be too pearl-clutchy when you remember how we initially reacted to Ripley beating up then-babyface Dominik every week. We sexualised the hell out of that to the point that it basically became the TV gimmick when Dominik turned.
|
|
ayumidah
Patti Mayonnaise
DOOM TIME!!!!!
Posts: 30,803
|
Post by ayumidah on Jun 4, 2024 2:01:53 GMT -5
I personally don't think you're seeing things, a lot of people felt the same way. The parts of fandom I'm in outside of here was already reading it that way last week from the kiss alone, this week just really doubled down on it. I'm pretty sure the Rhea/Dom section of the fanfic site I go to is going to be interesting to navigate for awhile because of this. Like, commentary was trying to push Balor as acting like Dom's father and shit, but I was just glad someone stopped it, because ick.
|
|
UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm
Fry's dog Seymour
Sponsored by Arizona Green Tea/Peanuts But Only At Baseball Stadiums/Biscuits Cat Adoption Agency
Posts: 24,160
|
Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 4, 2024 2:03:16 GMT -5
It’s hard to be too pearl-clutchy when you remember how we initially reacted to Ripley beating up then-babyface Dominik every week. We sexualised the hell out of that to the point that it basically became the TV gimmick when Dominik turned. Yeah I'm not going to suddenly stop watching or be all like "turn that shit off" but the storyline reasoning for Ripley beating up Dominik wasn't a sexual thing in storyline originally. She didn't kick his ass to make him sexually submissive, I don't think. It became a storyline eventually but as it stood at the time on the show, it was simply her being strong enough to beat up the guy and his family, it wasn't for any sexual gain and it gained that traction through the fans. Tonight was Liv Morgan trying to grope and kiss the guy as he's backing up and clearly did not want that. It would be different if when Rhea was beating up Dominik for those types of gains instead of what it actually was.
|
|
|
Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Jun 4, 2024 2:08:42 GMT -5
I didn't have a problem with it but I also don't get it either. Why even do the kiss last week if it's just going to be them continuing to drag things out with Dom continuing to play dumb until Rhea comes back? (assuming that's where's it's going). And if for some reason they aren't really in cahoots then why make your most hated heel come as sympathetic by trying to be loyal while he keeps being harassed?
|
|
UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm
Fry's dog Seymour
Sponsored by Arizona Green Tea/Peanuts But Only At Baseball Stadiums/Biscuits Cat Adoption Agency
Posts: 24,160
|
Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 4, 2024 2:16:03 GMT -5
I didn't have a problem with it but I also don't get it either. Why even do the kiss last week if it's just going to be them continuing to drag things out with Dom continuing to play dumb until Rhea comes back? (assuming that's where's it's going). And if for some reason they aren't really in cahoots then why make your most hated heel come as sympathetic by trying to be loyal while he keeps being harassed? I was excited because I thought it would definitely begin tonight with them being together and I didn't really factor in the "plunger to a sidewalk" comparison I made as actually being a storyline thing. I just thought it was poor acting or I mean, the guy is married you couldn't really blame him for doing a kiss in cinema like a lot of actors and actresses do. He's the biggest heel around and now I don't want to boo him as he is getting harassed. I know for what feels like a certainty that he's in on it though so it feels like we should still boo him. But... He's getting actively harassed multiple times on the show until someone actually gets in between them so she can't harass him? I guess I'm just being a little bit too much of a mark and feel bad for him maybe.
|
|
|
Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 4, 2024 2:17:35 GMT -5
I didn't have a problem with it but I also don't get it either. Why even do the kiss last week if it's just going to be them continuing to drag things out with Dom continuing to play dumb until Rhea comes back? (assuming that's where's it's going). And if for some reason they aren't really in cahoots then why make your most hated heel come as sympathetic by trying to be loyal while he keeps being harassed? I feel like it’s to show how Morgan has just gone completely off the deep end with this revenge tour and get the character over as the lead act in the division as it currently stands, while building anticipation for Ripley to destroy her and defend Dominik’s honour (!) without explicitly naming a time and place for a return. But yeah… This is DEFINITELY not one-and-done, Ripley getting the belt back as soon as she returns. Otherwise they wouldn’t be keeping the Dominik turn in the back pocket.
|
|
ayumidah
Patti Mayonnaise
DOOM TIME!!!!!
Posts: 30,803
|
Post by ayumidah on Jun 4, 2024 2:22:02 GMT -5
I didn't have a problem with it but I also don't get it either. Why even do the kiss last week if it's just going to be them continuing to drag things out with Dom continuing to play dumb until Rhea comes back? (assuming that's where's it's going). And if for some reason they aren't really in cahoots then why make your most hated heel come as sympathetic by trying to be loyal while he keeps being harassed? I was excited because I thought it would definitely begin tonight with them being together and I didn't really factor in the "plunger to a sidewalk" comparison I made as actually being a storyline thing. I just thought it was poor acting or I mean, the guy is married you couldn't really blame him for doing a kiss in cinema like a lot of actors and actresses do. He's the biggest heel around and now I don't want to boo him as he is getting harassed. I know for what feels like a certainty that he's in on it though so it feels like we should still boo him. But... He's getting actively harassed multiple times on the show until someone actually gets in between them so she can't harass him? I guess I'm just being a little bit too much of a mark and feel bad for him maybe. I'm in the minority but I'm glad they didn't just rush them together. Besides, I preordered this thing a couple weeks ago and I'd hate to have to wait until August to dropkick it into the sun.
|
|
UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm
Fry's dog Seymour
Sponsored by Arizona Green Tea/Peanuts But Only At Baseball Stadiums/Biscuits Cat Adoption Agency
Posts: 24,160
|
Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 4, 2024 2:22:54 GMT -5
I was excited because I thought it would definitely begin tonight with them being together and I didn't really factor in the "plunger to a sidewalk" comparison I made as actually being a storyline thing. I just thought it was poor acting or I mean, the guy is married you couldn't really blame him for doing a kiss in cinema like a lot of actors and actresses do. He's the biggest heel around and now I don't want to boo him as he is getting harassed. I know for what feels like a certainty that he's in on it though so it feels like we should still boo him. But... He's getting actively harassed multiple times on the show until someone actually gets in between them so she can't harass him? I guess I'm just being a little bit too much of a mark and feel bad for him maybe. I'm in the minority but I'm glad they didn't just rush them together. Besides, I preordered this thing a couple weeks ago and I'd hate to have to wait until August to dropkick it into the sun. You gotta put some purple LED lights around it lmao
|
|
Nosnorb
El Dandy
Nachos and Fraggle Rock are TIMELESS.
Posts: 8,373
|
Post by Nosnorb on Jun 4, 2024 2:53:57 GMT -5
He's the biggest heel around and now I don't want to boo him as he is getting harassed. I know for what feels like a certainty that he's in on it though so it feels like we should still boo him. But... He's getting actively harassed multiple times on the show until someone actually gets in between them so she can't harass him? I guess I'm just being a little bit too much of a mark and feel bad for him maybe. I think that's the idea, to at least attempt to make us feel sympy for him if the only thing he is guilty in all this is being a bit of an idiot who should have known there was no way Becky would accept his help, so that the payoff of Rhea coming back and destroying Liv is even greater and you can potentially turn Dom face too. Poor dude is missing his Mami and has messed up twice to put the belt on a woman who put her out of action, and wants nothing to do with Liv, and the whole business is driving a wedge between him and his mates. Who wouldn't feel sorry for him? If on the other hand Liv and Dirty Dom are working together, then the betrayal of Rhea is drawn out and therefore even more painful and Liv and Dom even bigger scumbags, and also fury at Liv for making me feel bad for DOMINIK F***ING MYSTERIO.
|
|
UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm
Fry's dog Seymour
Sponsored by Arizona Green Tea/Peanuts But Only At Baseball Stadiums/Biscuits Cat Adoption Agency
Posts: 24,160
|
Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 4, 2024 3:11:46 GMT -5
He's the biggest heel around and now I don't want to boo him as he is getting harassed. I know for what feels like a certainty that he's in on it though so it feels like we should still boo him. But... He's getting actively harassed multiple times on the show until someone actually gets in between them so she can't harass him? I guess I'm just being a little bit too much of a mark and feel bad for him maybe. I think that's the idea, to at least attempt to make us feel sympy for him if the only thing he is guilty in all this is being a bit of an idiot who should have known there was no way Becky would accept his help, so that the payoff of Rhea coming back and destroying Liv is even greater and you can potentially turn Dom face too. Poor dude is missing his Mami and has messed up twice to put the belt on a woman who put her out of action, and wants nothing to do with Liv, and the whole business is driving a wedge between him and his mates. Who wouldn't feel sorry for him? If on the other hand Liv and Dirty Dom are working together, then the betrayal of Rhea is drawn out and therefore even more painful and Liv and Dom even bigger scumbags, and also fury at Liv for making me feel bad for DOMINIK F***ING MYSTERIO. I think that’s part of what I’m hung up on. Logic would state that this is all actually building towards both Dom and Rhea being big time faces together and this is how JD ends while the past’s booking makes me think the intended reaction is “huh huh hes so lucky to be sexually harassed she’s hot”. Damn good work by WWE if they’re going for the former, that would be something that feels unique and would probably work too.
|
|
mj0mn0m
Unicron
Watch me or I go Houdini! ✨️
Posts: 2,903
Member is Online
|
Post by mj0mn0m on Jun 4, 2024 3:13:06 GMT -5
So far it's been hot as hell, Liv's a true black widow! 🤣 Much much more perfect than I ever imagined! 😍
|
|
john84
Fry's dog Seymour
Proud Father of 3 :)
Posts: 24,299
|
Post by john84 on Jun 4, 2024 3:14:17 GMT -5
Pretty neutral on it atm. Waiting a few more weeks to see how it goes I think.
|
|
mj0mn0m
Unicron
Watch me or I go Houdini! ✨️
Posts: 2,903
Member is Online
|
Post by mj0mn0m on Jun 4, 2024 3:20:46 GMT -5
Pretty neutral on it atm. Waiting a few more weeks to see how it goes I think. Yeah, there is gonna be weeks worth of stuff coming up shortly. Far from finished! 🥵
|
|
mj0mn0m
Unicron
Watch me or I go Houdini! ✨️
Posts: 2,903
Member is Online
|
Post by mj0mn0m on Jun 4, 2024 3:47:24 GMT -5
Liv will surely have couple more tricks in her to get Dirty Dom submit. Saving him was the right path! 😝 😈
|
|
mj0mn0m
Unicron
Watch me or I go Houdini! ✨️
Posts: 2,903
Member is Online
|
Post by mj0mn0m on Jun 4, 2024 3:54:46 GMT -5
... and that includes *you* ~ ! 😋
|
|
mj0mn0m
Unicron
Watch me or I go Houdini! ✨️
Posts: 2,903
Member is Online
|
Post by mj0mn0m on Jun 4, 2024 4:10:25 GMT -5
Doesn't look to me he's being harrassed ... 🤭
|
|
|
Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Jun 4, 2024 4:14:50 GMT -5
OK, you already have a thread to spam your support in, use that. Let’s keep this one more for discussion of the specific angle.
|
|
|
Post by wallabylikeyou on Jun 4, 2024 4:15:25 GMT -5
Is it not blatantly leading up to Dom's betrayal? The more they have him protest the bigger the contrast when he finally goes "come here baby" and plants a big one on Liv.
|
|
john84
Fry's dog Seymour
Proud Father of 3 :)
Posts: 24,299
|
Post by john84 on Jun 4, 2024 4:15:32 GMT -5
Doesn't look to me he's being harrassed ... 🤭 You right now...
|
|