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Post by mj0mn0m on Jun 4, 2024 4:23:40 GMT -5
I'd like to give you a taste Because I know that hunger grows when you eat I'll give the keys to the delicatessen I bring an alternative to your tastebuds Try it if you like spicy and salty I'll open the doors to the delicatessen for you If you dare, grab me tonight Not only do you not have to eat with your eyes anymore If someone asks something stupid, don't admit it I promise your life will be sweeter with me
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Post by gritizen on Jun 4, 2024 4:32:34 GMT -5
Someone's getting banned tonight over Liv, I can feel it. Very nice of you to help out Doo Doo with his prediction. But seriously, you're not wrong and it's completely fair to be uncomfortable with it. Especially since I'm not 100% certain Dom is turning on Rhea anymore. Feels more like Liv, Finn & JD are working together rather than Dom & Liv.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 4, 2024 5:04:33 GMT -5
Someone's getting banned tonight over Liv, I can feel it. Very nice of you to help out Doo Doo with his prediction. But seriously, you're not wrong and it's completely fair to be uncomfortable with it. Especially since I'm not 100% certain Dom is turning on Rhea anymore. Feels more like Liv, Finn & JD are working together rather than Dom & Liv. hey I was just sitting here having a midnight snack and now I need to find j’s Mone shocked gif lmao. I’m literally just eating pecans. Maybe that’s what they’re going for. I doubt it since it would take a lot of subtle storytelling but maybe she really is with those two. It looked like she was in cahoots with Finn tonight maybe. It would make sense if she meant destroy the whole JD when she said she’d take everything, not just Dom. Dom means a lot to Rhea but I’ve always thought she cared about the group more than anything, even her own title and Dom himself. I just don’t see this as any way similar to what Rhea did at the beginning of that storyline.
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Post by papagiorgio on Jun 4, 2024 5:37:36 GMT -5
Nobody would have cared 20 years ago. A few care now and even more would care if the roles were reversed. I treat wrestling like a regular scripted tv show. As long as they keep the storyline in the PG-13 type range, I don't see a big deal. It has been entertaining so far. I think it leads to Dom and Liv together at some point.
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Post by theironyuppie on Jun 4, 2024 6:22:07 GMT -5
It’s hard to be too pearl-clutchy when you remember how we initially reacted to Ripley beating up then-babyface Dominik every week. We sexualised the hell out of that to the point that it basically became the TV gimmick when Dominik turned. Yeah I'm not going to suddenly stop watching or be all like "turn that shit off" but the storyline reasoning for Ripley beating up Dominik wasn't a sexual thing in storyline originally. She didn't kick his ass to make him sexually submissive, I don't think. It became a storyline eventually but as it stood at the time on the show, it was simply her being strong enough to beat up the guy and his family, it wasn't for any sexual gain and it gained that traction through the fans. Tonight was Liv Morgan trying to grope and kiss the guy as he's backing up and clearly did not want that. It would be different if when Rhea was beating up Dominik for those types of gains instead of what it actually was.
Rhea tormenting Dom week after week was as a way to get at Rey and Edge (a key point in the Dom heel turn was Rhea shoving Dom into the path of an Edge spear), but Rhea introducing her 'Papi' persona added an energy to the storyline, and there were some sexual overtones at points. People remember Rhea choking Dom with her thighs, but there was also the unsubtle phallic symbolism they used in the segment where Rhea convinced Dom to give her his kendo stick rather than actually using it as a weapon:
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Post by longtimelurker29 on Jun 4, 2024 6:39:32 GMT -5
I think sometimes we have to think about things in the context that’s it’s presented rather than “what if” scenarios.
Yes, if it was maybe an unattractive person cornering Dom, it might not be a great look and be uncomfortable.
But that’s not what’s happening here. Liv is super hot and Dom isn’t uncomfortable. He’s trying not to cheat but he’s smiling and flirting especially with the eyes. The eyes don’t lie Chico.
Like I don’t know man. I just don’t think it’s that deep nor does everything have to be a think piece.
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Post by J is Justice on Jun 4, 2024 6:42:24 GMT -5
Liv's definitely in the wrong, but she is a heel. And the crowd still booing Dom is kind of messed up, lol.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 4, 2024 7:36:42 GMT -5
Ehh...I'm not loving the angle. And I love Liv, but I just don't buy her in the role she's playing
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Jun 4, 2024 7:41:30 GMT -5
Really this whole thing just feels like a super unnecessary and gross direction for this to be going in.
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Post by PHD-FENDERBAUM on Jun 4, 2024 7:45:53 GMT -5
I remember in LU a very similar situation happening but it was Angelico being Mr lova boy heavily flirting with Iveliesse and caressing her etc and no one not the LU fans etc were for it and is regarded as the worst LU episode but credit to LU creative they took that heart immediately and changed course at the very same taping.
This is very much in that same vain just now reversed with the woman being the flirty aggressive pursuer so will be interesting to see if this ends up going the same way which I personally do not think they will simply because I do not think this audience is gonna be anywhere as strongly vocal against this.
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Post by Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story on Jun 4, 2024 8:09:44 GMT -5
I don't mind it, but I also don't think it's particularly compelling. I hope they get to the point sooner v. later even if Rhea isn't ready to come back. If anything, this is kind of exposing Liv a bit - she's way better in-ring than she used to be, but she's better as a smiling underdog than she is as an unhinged heel.
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Post by BRV on Jun 4, 2024 8:11:45 GMT -5
Sexual harassment angles don't work in wrestling. It didn't work in the 2000s when Mr. McMahon was forcing Trish Stratus to strip down and bark like a dog, and it's not working in this instance, either. There's so many better, easier, less gross and uncomfortable ways to get heel heat than sexually harassing a co-worker. And, even though Dominik Mysterio is one of the hottest heels in the company, for some reason they had Michael Cole and Pat McAfee on commentary last night pushing the "Admit it, Dom, you wanted it!" side of the story, as though giving in to his abuser will somehow turn him face.
But because there are so many creeps who obsess over Liv Morgan because "blonde girl hot," it'll continue to be pushed.
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Post by polarbearpete on Jun 4, 2024 8:17:35 GMT -5
I think it’s a grey area right now that they have to be careful of going too far with. As long as they (commentary specifically) are not presenting Dom as being in the wrong for turning down her advances, then I think it’s just a representation of a real situation that can take place.
Plus there’s the fact that Dom likely ends up with Liv in the end because I feel like the crowd is not ready for him to turn face yet.
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Post by mj0mn0m on Jun 4, 2024 9:44:05 GMT -5
The amount of beauty shaming Liv gets sometimes, I don't no... disgusting?
Recently Vince Russo blastered all kinds of shie'et out of his mouth.
This story will never go as sleazy road as Vince's segments were. Nothing to even compare. Totally different people. Totally different time.
The segments are the most watched at Youtube. If this just keeps momentum, we have a f***ing mega star in our hands! ✨️
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jun 4, 2024 9:47:43 GMT -5
On top of the icky optics of WWE doing this kinda thing, The whole Liv Morgan revenge tour arc just reeks of trying to make Fetch happen
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Post by Fade on Jun 4, 2024 10:30:50 GMT -5
It’s brilliant.
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Post by HIM on Jun 4, 2024 11:02:52 GMT -5
I mean, just last year we had Ludwig Kaiser trying to f*** Maxxine constantly and people were loving that storyline. We always have these storylines where the dude is trying to get at a woman and yet in this case it's the other way around. It would be different if that wasn't the case but hey, everybody gets it.
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Post by Totorob101 on Jun 4, 2024 11:11:09 GMT -5
Bad people doing bad things are popular with a lot of people so it's no surprise people are loving this.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Jun 4, 2024 11:29:36 GMT -5
It's only weird to me if it turns out Dom really wants no part of it. The logical outcome though is that he's messing around with Liv and just acting like he isn't to avoid Rhea's wrath but he's such an idiot he's not covering his tracks very well like when he was seen getting out of the same car as Liv, publicly liking her photos on Instagram, "accidentally" helping her win/keep the title or when he was caught smiling last night.
I said it in another thread recently but I hope this isn't presented as some huge shock to Rhea when she returns or she'll look like an idiot. She should be like oh I know exactly what's been going on and I've been sat at home for weeks planning how I'm gonna kill you both when I get back.
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Post by UN PLOMBIER NIGHTMARE #blm on Jun 4, 2024 11:50:47 GMT -5
I think sometimes we have to think about things in the context that’s it’s presented rather than “what if” scenarios. Yes, if it was maybe an unattractive person cornering Dom, it might not be a great look and be uncomfortable. But that’s not what’s happening here. Liv is super hot and Dom isn’t uncomfortable. He’s trying not to cheat but he’s smiling and flirting especially with the eyes. The eyes don’t lie Chico. Like I don’t know man. I just don’t think it’s that deep nor does everything have to be a think piece. His eyes don’t lie? He’s not uncomfortable? I’m trying to understand and asking legitimately, is there a particular thing with his eyes or mannerisms that are saying he wants it? Maybe you picked up on something. Yeah I feel you on the last one. It’s kinda like with ratings threads, some people like to “discuss business” and some people like to.. discuss current angles on a wrestling show happening right now.
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