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Post by Joe Newberry on Jul 1, 2007 10:51:28 GMT -5
look down to my sig. Admiral Akbar? When did WWE have him under contract?
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Post by Quark: Ferengi Sex Machine on Jul 1, 2007 10:55:43 GMT -5
look down to my sig. Admiral Akbar? When did WWE have him under contract? Don't respond... IT'S A TWAAAAAAAP!
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Post by PTBartman on Jul 1, 2007 11:01:46 GMT -5
Macho Man. I know.... but they really destroyed him when they turned him face the first time. When he first came in he was great as the viscous heel. His feud with Tito Santana to get the IC belt then Steamboat were brilliant. His stick work was intelligent articulate and funny. Then they turned him fave and he became an idiot (albeit a very entertaining idiot (he could carry any one to a 4 star match, I still say Savage Warrior WM match was the Warriors best match)) Hogan clone and that's just wasn't him. (Oh yeaaah My Macho Maniacs snap into a Slim Jim Oh Yeeeeeeah). Maybe that's why I got and enjoyed the whole Black Machismo parody. Randy never Recovered till he went to WCW and I think thats where he really did his best stuff.
Speaking of Poffos I never got why Lonny wasn't huge. He was one of my favorite jobbers and i don't meant that in a "Simply Defeated Jones, Barry Horrowitz fun to mock type of way. I even liked his genius Gimmick. He pulled it off way better than Shane Douglas. Any one else think Matt Stryker watches old lonny poffo promos with his milk and cookies before bed check? cause I'm really starting to like him. He played Piper (pun intended) perfectly Tuesday night for a really enjoyable segment that I really needed.
Women in general.
Nothing has offended me more in the WWE recently than the one "I watch RAW 'commercial' with the SVU detective. Where she says she'd love to put an abuser in a room with a couple of 'Divas' and teach them a lesson? After i finnish vomiting I start screaming "And What Fornicating Lesson would that be? How to wrestle in a vat of chocolate pudding in a bikini" How they let Gail Kim (and Chrissy Hemme) get away. You wanna teach 'an abuser' a lesson lock him in a cage with Gail Kim, Miss Jackie, Victoria, Jazz, Wendy richtor, Luna, the late Scary Sherri (and on and on). Not Ashley, Maria, Torrie, etc. or any of the Centerfolds. Even the non wrestling Valet's of old had class (Miss Elizabeth) as opposed to the strumpetts they parade around now.
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Post by PTBartman on Jul 1, 2007 11:09:06 GMT -5
Shane McMahon is an adult he can do what he wants. That's his choice not Vince's. Maybe if Vince didn't want his kids badly influenced he shouldn't had involved them in the wrestling business. That's why his dad didn't want him involved. This happened in 93 when Shane was still a teenager. No other company would try to promote a guy who has been corrupting the bosses son, so why should Vince feel guilty? Uhm Shane was 23 at the time, That's a year out of college. he was perfectly capable of making his own decisions (and paying his own consequences(theirs a great T-shirt for Raven "Raven 4:20 'I Came and Died For Shanes Sins'") and how many 23 yr old wrestlers stuck a needle in their butt? or stuck silicone/saline in their chest and are going to suffer Because Vinnie Mac told them to? Tad hypocritical no?
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Post by DramaGuyCJM on Jul 1, 2007 11:17:10 GMT -5
5 pages and no one has said his name? THE MOST MONEY MAKING MAN: CLAUDIOOOOOOO CASTAGNOLIIIIIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!! Seriously, before he even got to development he got screwed over. I agree with you there. Claudio would've been pushed to the moon because he's a big guy. But, in a novel change of pace, he can actually work a good match unlike some other WWE big men. Not going to mention any names *cough*khali*cough*.
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Post by joeman on Jul 1, 2007 19:35:20 GMT -5
This happened in 93 when Shane was still a teenager. No other company would try to promote a guy who has been corrupting the bosses son, so why should Vince feel guilty? Uhm Shane was 23 at the time, That's a year out of college. he was perfectly capable of making his own decisions (and paying his own consequences(theirs a great T-shirt for Raven "Raven 4:20 'I Came and Died For Shanes Sins'") and how many 23 yr old wrestlers stuck a needle in their butt? or stuck silicone/saline in their chest and are going to suffer Because Vinnie Mac told them to? Tad hypocritical no? I stand corrected about Shane's age, but he is Vince's blood and I imagine he wants the best for him. So it is not out of possibility Vince is looking out for Shane's best interest and didn't want him to be influenced by Raven.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Jul 1, 2007 19:39:27 GMT -5
Sean O'Haire? Anybody?
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Post by Hensley on Jul 1, 2007 21:38:18 GMT -5
Raven, D'Lo, DDP, etc.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Jul 1, 2007 21:52:28 GMT -5
dean malenko he coulda been so much better then a james bond gimmick
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Post by Midnight Rider on Jul 1, 2007 21:57:28 GMT -5
Adrian Adonis - He might not have been a physical specimen but was talented and could have a good match with anyone( he made Greg Gagne look good for Pete's sake) but was saddled with the rediculous "Adorable" gimmick.
Al Snow- Got absolutely tremendous pops in ECW doing the "Head" gimmick and was good in the ring;wasn't really handled right in WWF which consquently killed all his momentum.I won't even get into the whole Avatar/Leif Cassidy thing...
Eddie Gilbert- Decent wrestler but really shone with his promos, Vince sr. liked him and had him as Backlund's "protege" to get him some seasoning, but when Vince Jr. took over he was shown the door way before he reached his potential.
Jerry Lawler- It may sound dumb to many,but people who have seen Lawler's Memphis stuff know he is a very good speaker, capable of FAR better than just yelling "Puppies" every time a woman comes out.His in-ring style may be a little dated,but he could draw fans into a match just as well as any of the top guys in the WWF/E era, including Hogan.
Butch Miller & Luke Williams - As The Sheepherders,one of the most violent and feared(by fans) tag teams in the business,headlining bloody hardcore feuds wherever they went;the WWF re-named them The Bushwhackers and toned them down to the point where they were basically a joke.
Terry Taylor- Great wrestler capable of consistently good matches, alright on the mic; the Red Rooster gimmick totally killed his credibility.
Shane Douglas- Good all-arounder,but what was up with that stupid "Dean Douglas" gimmick?
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Post by Dr. Marzvon Zombie M.D. on Jul 1, 2007 22:26:24 GMT -5
Goldberg, I don't give a crap they gave him the title and the win over triple h it was to little to late, he should of came in a monster and destroyed all.
Having him ware the wig was death to the Goldberg character, they should of booked him the way they did like i think a month or two into his run when he put rosie or the umaga(when he was in 3 min warning) threw the gard wall at ringside.
But to little to late, they had money to print with him but he was from WC DUB so he had to fail.
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