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Post by CrazySting on Sept 9, 2007 8:52:09 GMT -5
Flair quit after having his big retirement angle shot down numerous times. Austin was pissed that Flair wasn't going to be at Mania this past year, and he came up with an idea to build to Flair's retirement at Mania 24. Basically, Flair would lose a match, snap, and claim that the next time he lost he would retire. He would then go onto a winning streak that would cross over all three brands, with guys trying to be the guy to beat Flair, and Flair finally losing in a high profile match, possibly for a belt, at Mania, with him getting into the HOF the night before.
Vince was said to have loved the idea, and when pitching it he mentioned it was Austins, and the decisions were made to go ahead with the angle. That, obviously, never happened, and that initially pissed flair off. Once he was moved to Smackdown, the idea was to push him as the Babe Ruth of Wrestling, but that never happened either. The retirement angle was, again, brought up, but never moved on. Flair was also pissed about being left off the Columbia SC taping, because he could have been the second most over guy there, and also about losing clean to Finlay. Also, Flair was upset with Triple H saying that Flair can't beat top guys at his age because it is a credibility issue.
Flair is said to be content with staying away and getting his finance business off the ground. Vince is pissed because Flair owes him money from when Vince helped him with the IRS and his court charges.
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You know HHH is right...Flair couldn't believably beat the yonger guys...
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Post by Gillberg: 0-175 on Sept 9, 2007 8:54:33 GMT -5
I hope you're not serious. It's RIC f***ING FLAIR BABY!!!!! WHOOOOOOO! THE 16 TIME WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION. And I say f*** WWE for not giving Flair the belt on SD. The title scene on all 3 brands havent been shaken up the least in the last few months, and that is so boring.
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Post by Tea & Crumpets on Sept 9, 2007 8:55:39 GMT -5
He could be given the Stevie push of fluke wins, that'd be fine. I'm sad to see Flair go, he's one of the guys who you think of as an ever-present in wrestling.
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Post by bigHEADinc on Sept 9, 2007 8:56:20 GMT -5
If Hogan can credibly beat younger superstars then Ric Flair can too...
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Post by The Genesis of KoOS on Sept 9, 2007 8:56:43 GMT -5
If Hogan can credibly beat younger superstars then Ric Flair can too... Amen. |
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Post by leemir on Sept 9, 2007 8:57:07 GMT -5
I think he could believably beat the younger guys by being THE DIRTIEST PLAYER IN THE THE GAME! WOOOOOOOOOOO!
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Post by CrazySting on Sept 9, 2007 8:57:34 GMT -5
If Hogan can credibly beat younger superstars then Ric Flair can too... Yeah, but that was partly what finished off WCW. |
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 9, 2007 8:58:29 GMT -5
You know HHH is right...Flair couldn't believably beat the yonger guys... He could've 4 years ago, but now it's gotta be someone who he can actually work with and have the type of tempo that works for him at this age. I don't like the idea of Flair going on a winning streak or claiming to retire when he loses because that's kind of anti-climatic, I'd have him go out without even saying he's going to retire and announce it right after his last match, an Evil Keneivl sort of maneuver |
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Post by mysterydriver on Sept 9, 2007 8:58:52 GMT -5
The Babe Ruth of Wrestling would have been a good thing to run with. Then again, Trips seems set to be the Barry Bonds of Wrestling by breaking the World Title streak by any means necessary.
Ric needs money. He's in a lot of debt from his wild youth and crazy present. I wouldn't be suprised if he showed up in TNA for one last feud with Sting.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Sept 9, 2007 8:59:27 GMT -5
Hold the phone! I thought HHH and Flair were buddies. Another wrestling myth destroyed  |
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Post by blackstussyshirt on Sept 9, 2007 9:00:26 GMT -5
I like that angle.
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 9, 2007 9:01:27 GMT -5
The Babe Ruth of Wrestling would have been a good thing to run with. Then again, Trips seems set to be the Barry Bonds of Wrestling by breaking the World Title streak by any means necessary. Oh so that's why he's had all those title runs as of late  And I think that Triple H is smart enough to know that he couldn't top what Flair ever was because Flair was a top name in ANY promotion he worked with and eventually became their title holder. In Triple H's case, he's only been a top name in WWE. I really wish this immature rumor would stop |
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Post by Conor*Charisma on Sept 9, 2007 9:01:28 GMT -5
That actually sounds like a great storyline. And people who are like "it doesn't creditbly make sense" or "It will damage the guys being beaten"
Its 1 freckin defeat by Ric Flair! Their carrer wont be ruined and most people will forget it and move on! Its fine!
That angle is the perfect way to send someone off. They should use it every year lol
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Sept 9, 2007 9:01:29 GMT -5
If Hogan can credibly beat younger superstars then Ric Flair can too... Yeah, but that was partly what finished off WCW. But it happened in the E as well. |
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Post by CrazySting on Sept 9, 2007 9:03:21 GMT -5
Yeah, but that was partly what finished off WCW. But it happened in the E as well. Well, not as much. He jobbed to Angle and Lesnar. I know he won the title but that was only for a month or so. Once they realised what a disaster it was, they took it off him. |
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 9, 2007 9:04:08 GMT -5
Yeah, but that was partly what finished off WCW. But it happened in the E as well. During a dry run where the ratings were still plummeting |
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Sept 9, 2007 9:05:57 GMT -5
But it happened in the E as well. During a dry run where the ratings were still plummeting I guess Hogan's nostaglia run is way more important than Flair's, since even the youngest WWE mark understands who Hogan is and not Flair. But still, what a way for a legend to go out. Looks like Hogan won afterall. |
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Post by Corporate H on Sept 9, 2007 9:09:03 GMT -5
You know HHH is right...Flair couldn't believably beat the yonger guys... You realize wrestling is fake, right? If we can have guys like Rey Mysterio as champ, then why not Flair? I would've marked for this angle. |
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Post by chickenwhopper on Sept 9, 2007 9:09:46 GMT -5
I never understood why it's always the reason for doing something based soley on the fact that it's happened before as in the case with Hogan.
That's like when you're a kid and you want an ice cream cone, your parents shoot it down and you say "but Jimmy's parents got HIM an ice cream cone!"
Again, I respect Flair for all he's done, but he's not owed anything for continually sticking around in an era that doesn't really need him, sad but true.
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Post by Super Nimieboo on Sept 9, 2007 9:10:29 GMT -5
Yeah, it's really not the "believability" it's the credibility in kayfabe thing Trips means.
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