Orton is bulletproof

[Mozenrath]

xkingofkingsx said:

Orton is also friends with Triple H outside the ring, as well as Batista. Batista is a legitimate douche, but Orton's actually not too bad of a guy. I've met him outside of the ring and any promos, he's pretty cool.

Must not of taken his picture.

[The Booty Disciple]

taxcollector said:

Orton is also faster than a speeding bullet.

And able to be as boring as a tall building in the ring.

[The Booty Disciple]

xkingofkingsx said:

Orton is also friends with Triple H outside the ring, as well as Batista. Batista is a legitimate douche, but Orton's actually not too bad of a guy. I've met him outside of the ring and any promos, he's pretty cool.

And it's certain that because he was having a good day THAT day, it undoes his past well publicized transgressions.

I have no problem believing he was cool to you, but he's been generally regarded as a real jackass for the better part of 5 years. That has to come from SOMEWHERE.

[The F'N Captain]

Yeah I've given up on trying to understand the hypocrisy of the WWE. There's been guys with much lesser transgressions "wished well in thier future blah blah blahs" while Orton seems to try and pull off one major blunder a year and gets world title shots, title reigns, and booked like a complete bad ass.

[Warwolf]

codylockemitchell said:

buckyayo said:

I've come to the conclusion that Randy Orton is pretty much untouchable. They have actually just stopped bothering to punish him at this point. He gets caught on roids... they give him the title. Twice. He wasnt even off TV. He's Teflon.

JBL gets in deep water for his Germany stunt . . . he gets punished with the most inexplicable title run this side of Tank Abbot.

Batista acts like a dick to people backstage, gets into an embarrassing altercation with Booker T in which the entirety of the locker room backs up Bookuh Man . . . he gets punished with infinite title shots, cries for another every week, finally wins it, defends it once against Khali then claims Khali had his chance.

HBK in the 90's . . . nuff said.


To be fair, it's not Just Orton. I think it's safe to assume that if Creative wants you to be pushed, you have a free pass to drive a bus full of nitro glycerine and nuns through an orphanage.

Funny ain't it? This is why nobody in their right mind would take Vince seriously when he says 'Oh well we took the belts off of RVD and suspended him for a month because he had pot in his car'.

Yeah, right Vince. He got over without you, and you're a bitter old F'ing bastard. We already know the truth, so quit bothering to lie about it.

Oh wait, this is Vince we're talking about. Never mind.

[Ace Diamond]

sexualwalking said:

Yeah I've given up on trying to understand the hypocrisy of the WWE. There's been guys with much lesser transgressions "wished well in thier future blah blah blahs" while Orton seems to try and pull off one major blunder a year and gets world title shots, title reigns, and booked like a complete bad ass.

Yeah same here. Trying to understand the hypocrisy of the WWE is exactly like trying to understand the hypocrisy of the IWC. Perfect example is people hating Batista yet liking Orton. Honestly I think Orton is infinetely worse than Batista, even though Batista has gotten some people fired, at least he didn't reduce a hotel room to debris and then get put in a major angle right after that.

EDIT: come to think of it, they're both equally despicable, I almost forgot Big Dave cheated on his wife while she was recovering from cancer treatment.

[Squirrel Master]

barneybhb said:

If The Powers That Be like you, you can get away with anything.

I never thought I'd say this, but "Word Life".

Our Man Orton is the right guy in the right place at the right time.

[Chainsaw]

buckyayo said:

I've come to the conclusion that Randy Orton is pretty much untouchable. They have actually just stopped bothering to punish him at this point. He gets caught on roids... they give him the title. Twice. He wasnt even off TV. He's Teflon.

Pretty much, yeah. And it distresses me that the best-booked heel on the show also happens to be a complete dirtbag.

[Ace Diamond]

chainsawiscaw said:

buckyayo said:

I've come to the conclusion that Randy Orton is pretty much untouchable. They have actually just stopped bothering to punish him at this point. He gets caught on roids... they give him the title. Twice. He wasnt even off TV. He's Teflon.

Pretty much, yeah. And it distresses me that the best-booked heel on the show also happens to be a complete dirtbag.

Exactly.

Why can't we have a well-booked heel who's just good at acting the heel and isn't just a well-protected massive smurfup of EPIC proportions?

Somebody like...i dunno...



EDIT: By the way, Between the Ropes this week has a well-thought out dissertation on this whole Orton thing.

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If you were going to book your show based around the "Nice" guys who never get in trouble. Then Funaki and Scotty 2 Hotty would be champions.

Watch any shoot interview. Half the stories begin with "We were all drunk in Dallas..." or "We got stopped at the Canadian border and..."

There's very few guys on the roster who just go to there motel and read there bible. Probably 80% of the roster are douchebags.

[machinegun]

I always love the egotistical/douchebag character... .Add psycho to that and you got even more win.

[Ace Diamond]

brentreznor said:

If you were going to book your show based around the "Nice" guys who never get in trouble. Then Funaki and Scotty 2 Hotty would be champions.

Watch any shoot interview. Half the stories begin with "We were all drunk in Dallas..." or "We got stopped at the Canadian border and..."

There's very few guys on the roster who just go to there motel and read there bible. Probably 80% of the roster are douchebags.

I really wanna hear a shoot interview when somebody who's not Randy Orton says "and there was this one time they sent me home from a European Tour for misconduct, so I decided the best way to deal with that was destroy my hotel room."

Odds of somebody not named Randy Orton actually doing that in their career? 1%

[Johnny Danger (Godz)]

See, the difference about guys like HBK, JBL, etc....not to excuse their "behavior", but, THEY WERE OVER! They were known for more than temper tantrums and chinlocks! JBL's title run was good. Orton's was a disaster. If HBK wasn't in WWF in the 90's, I'm pretty sure that we'd be getting ready to watch WCW Thunder tonight.

[I Like Rocks]

Orton is 50 Cent?

[Ace Diamond]

godz said:

See, the difference about guys like HBK, JBL, etc....not to excuse their "behavior", but, THEY WERE OVER! They were known for more than temper tantrums and chinlocks! JBL's title run was good. Orton's was a disaster. If HBK wasn't in WWF in the 90's, I'm pretty sure that we'd be getting ready to watch WCW Thunder tonight.

Exactly, even friggin Kevin Nash was over (in WCW at least), despite having only a handful of moves and numerous incidents backstage politicking.

Also he had the gift of Charisma, something that Orton seems to go out of his way to prove he DOESN'T have.

[machinegun]

Orton gets heat. I have no clue what you people are talking about.

His promo skills have developed nicely also.

[Ace Diamond]

machinegun said:

Orton gets heat. I have no clue what you people are talking about.

His promo skills have developed nicely also.

That's not what Monday Night told me.

"blah blah champion, blah blah worked hard, blah blah fake determined growly voice." *stands there looking like he's so bored he might pass out*

Also, if he's so over, why is it that people only boo him when Vince talks about him, and not when he's actually there? Usually when he's there it's either pindrop silence or minor smattering of boos. When Vince talks about him, suddenly the heat machine kicks in.

[Johnny Danger (Godz)]

machinegun said:

Orton gets heat. I have no clue what you people are talking about.

His promo skills have developed nicely also.

Ortons promo skills....have developed nicely? Is that what you....SHUTCHERMOUTH!!!! think?

;D

[Jack]

godz said:

See, the difference about guys like HBK, JBL, etc....not to excuse their "behavior", but, THEY WERE OVER! They were known for more than temper tantrums and chinlocks! JBL's title run was good. Orton's was a disaster. If HBK wasn't in WWF in the 90's, I'm pretty sure that we'd be getting ready to watch WCW Thunder tonight.

I can't agree really. HBK may have been a fantastic performer but he's never been nowhere near as over with the audience to justify his behavior. If he was then WWE wouldn't have near gone out of business when he was playing 'The big I am' running rough-shot over Vince and the talent at a time when they were hemmoraging viewers to WCW.

Also I disagree with the assertion that if HBK would have moved to WCW in the 90's that today we would be watching a WCW product. The only reason why HBK rose to the top of WWE during the mid-90's was because they had nobody else. If it were possible for Vince to go straight from Hogan to Austin he would have done. Just because you're top during the biggest down period in the companies history doesn't mean that you can walk in and main event a (at the time) more successful and popular organisation.

So yeah I'm willing to excuse poor backstage behavior if there is a greater good. If they pull in more viewers than anyone else, as they did then Austin and Rock could be the biggest jerks of all time. But I cannot excuse HBK for doing it as the only person who benefited from it was HBK and Vince was too scared to do anything about it because as indifferent the audience was to Shawn Michaels, he was at the time the best they had.

[Jack]

Also, my opinion is that WWE is a place where unless you're called HHH or HBK (or John Cena RIP Dr of Thuganomics) you're not really allowed to have a personality. Orton's never been given a personality, he's just been giving the "Legend Killer" nick name. Well thats no good you might as well call him Kevin for all it adds to the way he's allowed to perform.

I've always said Orton could excellently pull of the role of cocky heel who the guys love to hate and the girls hate to love. He could do that excellently in my book. Instead he gets told to stand there and look like someone who's shoes are too tight meanwhile other people on the roster get to express themselves and get given PERSONALITIES. I really don't think it's Orton's fault seeing as everything WWE do these days in terms of character promotion and development is heavily scripted and rigid.