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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 2, 2020 12:30:44 GMT -5
I take it Jaxon Ryker’s recent comments and the responses from his fellow wrestlers are off-limits? Yes. Goes without saying. I have no idea what you mean. Same as it's been for years now. It's on its side. Looks like you fell down. Still looks normal on my end. Anyone else seeing this?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 2, 2020 1:09:34 GMT -5
What happened to Madisons avatar? It keeps throwing me off every time I see it now. I have no idea what you mean. Same as it's been for years now.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 2, 2020 0:05:18 GMT -5
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 23:47:59 GMT -5
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 22:46:34 GMT -5
Regarding the Ryker/Gunner tweet:
NOT THE f***ING PLACE FOR THIS.
f***ing hell, people...
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 17:00:51 GMT -5
Jerry Lawler and pretty much anyone he teamed up with in Memphis. Usual way it happened was the other guy would feud with Lawler, turn face after a beatdown from a heel team/stable and then come out wanting to be Lawler's partner against them. This was almost always done with interviews that included "I still don't like you, but I need you to help me fight them" type stuff.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 16:22:50 GMT -5
Tito had been used as a JTTS pretty much since the Strike Force breakup angle. I think his one flirtation with greatness was making the finals of the IC tourney in 1990, but he lost to Mr. Perfect. He was also one of the three babyfaces to "survive" their Survivor Series '90 matches (alongside Hogan and Warrior) and took part in the main event later in the night. The thing about Tito as a JTTS is that in the entire time he was used as such (assuming you view him that way), he was always kept strong in a lot of ways. Outside of Heenan/Ventura dogging on him, commentary never buried him as a loser or the like. He got competitive matches and rarely lost in squashes. At the time (pre-Matador), he was never presented as a lower-card guy; directionless, sure, but never as a lower-carder.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 14:58:06 GMT -5
So all these people who held the same physical design of the NWA tag title are technically different titles? Because most of these reigns are not formally recognized by the official NWA organization Thanks for reminding me how much I loved the NWA tags design of the later 80s. re: the above pictures... Wouldn't the WCW and NWA (solo) ones be one and the same, actually? As that tag team title = same one from the JCP days? (the Freebirds won them when JCP had become WCW) But...technically, the one Steamboat and Douglas held was a new lineage, yes? (so to recap, original "NWA" tags became the WCW tags, then a new NWA tag title started in 1992) THE MID-ATLANTIC/JCP/WCW TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP:-The Mid-Atlantic tag title was started in 1975, owned by promoter Jim Crockett. It was usually referred to as that, but as Crockett Jr began to try to monopolize the NWA, he started terming the Mid-Atlantic titles as the "NWA tag titles" - make no mistake, they weren't. They were strictly still just JCP property, not governed by the actual NWA. These are the titles the Freebirds won. -When Turner bought JCP, these titles were called the WCW Tag titles. Again, there was no governing by the actual NWA on this and when WCW backed out of the NWA, the titles became strictly the WCW tag titles. It was the same company championship started in 1975 and passed from JCP to WCW. So the Freebirds and Steamboat/Douglas are part of the same lineage. -When WWE purchased WCW, this was the title that transferred over and used there until its eventual deactivation. THE NWA TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP:-In 1992, while still working with WCW, the NWA decided to finally create/endorse an official "NWA Tag" title. This championship was separate from the WCW company title above, and was first won by Gordy/Williams. -This championship was deactivated when WCW and NWA parted ways. -This title was reactivated a couple of years later and used in NWA-endorsed independents. It deactivated again after a couple of years. -When the NWA Invasion happened in WWF, it was reactivated yet again and given to the Rock N Roll Express. -Once that angle died out, the official NWA Tag title was used by NWA-endorsed independents for years until TNA started. -The titles were then won and defended on TNA shows until TNA split from NWA. -This title and its lineage then existed on the independent scene until becoming part of Corgan's new NWA promotion THE TNA TAG TEAM CHAMPIONSHIP:-When TNA split from the NWA, they created a new title with a new, fresh lineage; the Dudleys were the first champions of this title.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 14:18:02 GMT -5
Really? I just remember Ferrara doing the impression backstage to make Vince laugh. They did it in creative meetings and apparently JR was in on it and thought it was funny at first but things went too far in WCW. Watch the Sunday Night Heat clip URL'ed here. It's literally the same thing. I'm not defending it by any means, but saying it went too far in WCW when it was the exact same thing in WWF is misleading.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 13:46:46 GMT -5
For the sake of context and not to absolve Ferrara of the mocking, but the gimmick started in WWF, with Ferrara, Doc and JR all involved in the angle. Really? I just remember Ferrara doing the impression backstage to make Vince laugh. During a Sunday Night Heat show, Tiger Ali Singh called a "fan" (Ed Ferrara) from ringside and brought him into the ring, putting a cowboy hat on him and offering him $500 to impersonate JR. Ferrara then proceeded to do his JR impression until JR and Doc came out, with Doc destroying both of them: www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXeiQ6oeg2g
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 13:16:43 GMT -5
It was a scummy thing for him to do, no matter how he felt he was treated by WWE. To willingly go along with a gimmick which mocked JR's disability was disgusting. For the sake of context and not to absolve Ferrara of the mocking, but the gimmick started in WWF, with Ferrara, Doc and JR all involved in the angle.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 5:06:28 GMT -5
Unless I misunderstood, I guess Meltzer was talked to about writing a Vince biography before. His stance was that maybe he'd have been interested if it were a screenplay, since it'd be new to him, but that the Observer takes up too much of his time to want to write a book right now. I am curious how honest it will be. Vince has plenty of awful shit he's done, morally grey stories, or more altruistic ones to run the gamut, plus plenty of silly or interesting stories to pepper in, but we know about a lot of that, so even if it were just that and it'd probably be an interesting read for the casual or for non-fans, the only way this is going to entice me to read it is if Vince provides things to the author we don't know yet. If we don't get any revelations, then I'll pass. Yes, if I understand correctly, Simon & Schuster came to Meltzer first about writing it, and he turned them down. That said, since this isn't going to be a WWE-approved book, all bets are off.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 4:07:53 GMT -5
A dumb one to add, but oh well - early to mid 90s Gillette commercial. No story or characters in it, was mostly just close-ups of some new razor model they were promoting. What set it apart in my memory was the usual Gillette song was done completely as a very stirring bass-heavy instrumental that almost sounded like it belonged more in a movie training montage scene. Would love to hear it again to see if it still sounds as epic as I thought it did back then.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 3:51:11 GMT -5
A happy birthday to Johnny D! Hope it's a good one!
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 3:48:55 GMT -5
It will be okay. Pup will be in much less pain soon enough. Take care of yourself in the meantime, please.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 1:41:04 GMT -5
I'm a Meltzer fan, but the only thing I can recall recently is a report about Seth Rollins addressing a locker room meeting which Seth called him out on. Still I don't know if I'd use "lying" as his source just may have gotten the information wrong. That does happen from time to time. There is quite a bit of difference between "lying" and just inaccurate information. The major difference being intent. I do give credit to Dave though because unlike others, he apologized. He didn't double down. Which is something a lot of people unfortunately do these days. Meltzer was fed that info as bait by a source he viewed as reliable.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 1:37:39 GMT -5
I figured, but was confused, because the TV title came back The current nwa tv championship isnt the same title as the old NWA/WCW championships. It like how there two different version of the WWE Cruiserweight championship. Also correct. The NWA itself had no belts/titles/championships that were owned by itself other than the Heavyweight belt. All other titles were territory-exclusive. The current NWA TV title has no relation to the one used in Mid-Atlantic/JCP/WCW.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Jun 1, 2020 0:36:01 GMT -5
Correct. Until Crockett pulled his power play and monopolized the NWA Heavyweight title, the U.S. champion was THE top Crockett/Mid-Atlantic champion, as it was in most other promotions that had their own U.S. champ.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 31, 2020 23:25:44 GMT -5
If I wanted to expand into Latin America in 1992 I wouldn't use Tito for it. That's like using Jinder to expand into India. So you're saying that's exactly what WWF would have done? From what I've seen Piper was fantastic doing commentary with Gordon Solie in Georgia. But his 1990/91 run was pretty much crap. A large part of the problem imo was that he was replacing Jessie , who was a heel who liked/respected some of the faces. Piper was a face who disliked some of the faces, mostly Hogan. But then he also disliked the guys who Hogan wrestled most of the time. So he ended up back in the babyface position by default. Piper got Virgil over. I can forgive. Virgil got himself over. He didn't stay that way very long, but let's not discredit the fact that no one else was standing next to him when he turned babyface.
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Post by Joe Neglia on May 31, 2020 19:49:46 GMT -5
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