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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 20, 2009 3:26:30 GMT -5
I agree, I used to love the guy but now he serves no purpose...and I am sick of him kissing up to the guest hosts every week. They ruined him.
Hopefully his character will regain some direction in the future. It still isn't too late to repair the damage.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 20, 2009 0:03:51 GMT -5
I definitely agree with the 2 previous posters. The DOR games, especially 2 were great fun, especially HIAC matches. It was so realistic and the panels would break realistically when you slammed opponents into them, instead of just having 2 center panels that conveniently break in one spot all the time. I also agree that that dumb "falling through the cell" animation on SD. vs Raw needs to go. Definitely the best HIAC ever! Being able to do stuff like a Batista Bomb, F5, or Pedigree through the top, and have both wrestlers fall through and land hard in the ring laying there dead made for some great drama. One of my all time favorite moments in any wrestling game was when I, as Randy Orton, RKOed HHH through the Cell top. Orton fell with him through it per usual but since I landed at the very edge of the breakable panel, Orton landed OUTSIDE the ring to the outside while HHH landed inside, and he got up before Randy did, though both of them were laid out for awhile. Beyond that, even though being able to break up any move you wanted got some complaints from people I personally loved it,it added an entire new dimension to tag, fatal four way, triple threat,etc. matches. Due to being able to break up moves DOR 1 and 2 were a BLAST to play with three of your friends. I enjoyed being able to save my tag partner from taking damage from a finisher by breaking it up rather than just having to helplessly watch him get Tombstoned. It also lead to being able to do some great spots, like giving HHH a Sweet Chin Music when he has someone set up for the Pedigree.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 19, 2009 23:47:40 GMT -5
I think a lot of people are kind of forgetting the financial aspect of things. Namely - people in generally truthfully don't really at all care about managers, and the average wrestling fan ten years ago had no clue who Albano was. By that logic WWE shouldn't bother releasing stuff like the AWA DVD or the World Class DVD. Todays kids dont care about 80s wrestling promotions. Why bother having a tape library at all if they arent going to release stuff from the archives because THE KIDS TODAY DONT CARE! or THIS ISNT RELEVANT TO TODAYS WRESTLING FAN!
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 19, 2009 23:04:23 GMT -5
I've never played the DoR games. Sounds like I'm missing out on something. If I see it in Gamestop, I'll probably pick up DoR2. Shame THQ went multiplatform with Smackdown vs. RAW instead of making a DoR3 to the Wii. Yeah, I was really hoping they wouldn't go multiplatform with SvR. I haven't bought an SvR game since the original. Not that some of the games following it weren't okay, but SvRs flash over substance gameplay irks me. Start with a great gameplay engine and then build up the features as you go along, I say. I would recommend DoR 2, I bought it the day it came out and wasn't disappointed. Since its cheap now, its worth checking it out. If you like No Mercy then you will definitely like DoR 1 or 2. In some ways I prefer it, since you can reverse finishers and submissions arent an instant win once a body part is worn down like in NM.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 19, 2009 22:52:00 GMT -5
So because WWE is inept enough to somehow manage to make a DVD with the likes of Heenan, Albano, Jimmy Hart, Mr. Fuji, Fred Blassie, Sherri, Paul Bearer, Cornette, Slick, etc. as the stars and it wasn't very good, they should never bother ever trying again or releasing a DVD profiling the careers of one of those guys in detail?
The managers DVD would have been GREAT if they had actual made some sort of attempt at doing it right. Hell, a DVD just featuring great promos from all of those guys and one or two of their biggest matches would have been great.
Albano was a legendary manager, was one of the integral ingredients of Rock n Wrestling and had a long career. A DVD of him could easily be highly entertaining and interesting if done well.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 19, 2009 22:38:17 GMT -5
You know what? I usually sell my copy of the outdated SVR game, not this year. Not after the masterpiece of s**t THQ chooses to call SVR 2010. After all that waiting, and for what? A half-assed customization which the game is basically based on? I will pass on this one, too. I just can't believe a great game company like THQ would do this. As Mr. Krabs once said, "I used to worship the ground you walked on. Now, I wouldn't even SPIT in your direction." I have been used to being let down by THQ and Yukes since JBI. Luckily they turned things around with the awesome SYM, and the absolutely classic HCTP. Ufortunately after HCTP was the original SvR. Never, never have I been so let down by a game. I mean, JBI was pretty bad but at least it was a step forward in gameplay compared to SD 2. The most baffling thing to me is that meanwhile, Yukes is releasing the awesome DoR and DoR 2 which were the best WWE games since No Mercy, along with HCTP. If Yukes can put out something like the DoR games, with stuff like a finisher from every position for wrestlers, great HIAC with weapons and ability to do moves anywhere, a pretty good Royal Rumble from the get go, reversals unique to different weight classes and styles, a submission system that MAKES SENSE, etc. etc...why the hell cant that same company get the SD series right? It just pains me to think what we could have if the DoR series was on its 4th or 5th game at this point. The gameplay was pretty much almost perfect already by the second game [and yes, I realize the Gamecube series had other games in it before DoR but even counting those it took them 4 games to pretty much perfect the gameplay].
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 19, 2009 22:10:43 GMT -5
I cant wait to find out what happens on Mortal Kombat: Conquest this week!
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 19, 2009 20:29:59 GMT -5
He was WCW champ in its dying days, now he can host the WWE's flagship show in its dying days. Nice! Except, unlike WCW, WWE is still getting stable enough ratings to stay alive. Even in its worst days Nitro got better ratings than ECW or Smackdown do now, for the most part. Even Thunder did, actually. So that statement isn't really true. Ratings weren't great compared to when the nWo was hot but WWEs ratings now arent Attitude Era box office either. Not saying WWE is going to die anytime soon, though. I just dislike the attitude that NOBODY WATCHED WCW WHEN IT WAS DYING GUYZ! Otherwise WWE better start getting some fans, they have hit latter day WCW levels.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 18, 2009 20:35:24 GMT -5
More bad news maybe,rumors about that there is no divas rumble and no 6-Divas tag matches,which is very strange as we see them quite often on WWE tv.Not only that but rumors you cant edit the current superstars movesets or entrances are coming about on some circles..So if you hope to make anything different for a superstars moveset or entrance,forget about it.Hopefully those arent true but boy the past week has really made me think twice about buying the game. I will be glad if you cant edit movesets You go online,only to face a Randy Orton with a Kendrick move set Eh, I dont play online so I dont care. I would rather just play this type of game at home with friends. Part of the fun of the game is trash talking with your buddies, making alliances and having tag teams, stuff like that. Besides, that doesn't stop people from doing stupid crap like making a JBL CAW, giving him black skin and Rey Mysterios moveset. As far as having a costume color changer rather than being able to edit the moves I totally disagree. It will not affect my gameplay experience at all if I can change Randy Ortons underwear from black to red. Its something I would barely notice. Being able to give him different RKOs for different matches and stuff like that, however, affects gameplay and IS a big deal to me. That said I dont believe they would take out moveset edit anyway. Someone mentioned how you couldn't edit movesets in No Mercy earlier. That, to me, beyond not being able to reverse finishing moves is the BIGGEST flaw in that game. At least in No Mercy you could clone the default guys and change them however you liked, though.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 18, 2009 19:57:55 GMT -5
Austin didn't even do anything. He just showed up at the end of Raw the next night and took the belt back from Flair. It was just for some reason the crowd popped huge for him. Which confused me in so many different ways. 'BOO THE MAN WHO HELPED THE WWF OVERCOME THE ALLIANCE AND PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS! YAY! AUSTIN'S HERE! THE MAN WHO BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF EVERYONE FOR ALMOST HALF THE YEAR ALONG WITH ALMOST RUN THE WWF OUT OF BUSINESS!' To be fair, the entire time Austin was heel the crowd wanted to cheer for him most of the time. It was a simple fact of Austin still being popular with the fans and they didn't buy him as a heel much. The crowd cheered for Austin because they wanted to. I liked his heel run a lot but him being face made a lot more sense to me considering the crowd wanted him to be. To me, the ultimate example of this is Randy Ortons random face turn in 2004. Hes a dick for years, beats up helpless old guys. Acts like he is better than everyone else and has Evolution cheating for him to get the majority of his victories. Then he gets the same treatment he gave everyone else and suddenly we are supposed to like him and hes a great kid? Whole thing was really poorly done. If they had kept Orton as a tweener, lone wolf type and slowly transitioned him into a more face role while feuding with HHH and Evolution it would have made sense, but he immediately became a smiling, handshaking babyface. A complete reversal of his character. It made no sense, and was just awful. I never bought into any of HHHs face turns either. They never give a very good reason for it. A recent example: Matt Hardy basically trying to kill his brother, saying a bunch of terrible things about him, screwing him out of his title and making him miserable for half a year. Then he is gone a couple months, comes back and all is forgiven. Sure.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 18, 2009 18:43:00 GMT -5
If you are talking about the King of Kings DVD, yeah, it came out after.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 18, 2009 18:20:02 GMT -5
ok i got to say first that i've never disagreed with a wrestlecrap induction before but i got to say RD if you really feel that Cena's album is garbage you obviously havent listened to 99% of the hip hop that was being made in 95, although its by no means an instant classic it is by far a bad album. All the tracks you wrote off are good tracks. I've got proper 100% hip hop fanatic friends who i've played that album to and they've rated it! considering cena is first and foremost a wrestler (sort of) this album is pretty much s*** hot! Fred foxx obvioulsy did 99 % of the work on it but cena and the trademark are both good rappers with decent wordplay and flows. which is not easy to do! like i said i never normally disagree with the entries but before you introduce a rap album as crap you should probly learn a bit bout rap music first. dont mean to start a row but i really dont agree with you! I am way into hip hop...trust me, Cenas album sucks. Could it be worse? Of course...but just because the guy is a wrestler and his album isn't completely horrible doesn't mean he gets a free pass. If he was such a good rapper, he would have made more albums. Its not as bad as say, WWE Originals, but that doesn't mean it deserves any praise. Its like excusing the Marine for being an average action movie and Cena for being a crap actor because hes a wrestler. He still sucks at acting and the movie was still crap.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 18, 2009 16:37:46 GMT -5
I agree with getting rid of the Womens Division.
I mean, I would feel bad for some of the Women who are great wrestlers, but they could just go to TNA or Japan and admittedly its a pretty short list, even shorter if you consider how many of them are actually used or featured well in any capacity.
Keep some of the hot useless bimbos around to be valets.
WWE Womens Wrestling is just a waste of time to me. They dont treat it seriously, they never book any actual storylines for it, and the majority of the women suck at actually wrestling.
If WWE got serious about the division like TNA did, I would welcome it since I actually ENJOY the TNA Womens division. We all know they wont though.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 18, 2009 16:32:58 GMT -5
A lot of options since WWE never does anything new.
Edge vs. Jericho Christian vs. Jericho [done before but would be awesome now that they are different characters] Christian vs. HBK Christian vs. Orton [they had a great match on RAW one time when Orton was a face] Edge vs. HBK [they have battled in the past, and the whole Rated RKO thing, but I would like to see a proper singles feud based around HBK being the original Rated R Superstar] MVP vs. Orton MVP vs. Edge Morrison vs. HBK, Cena, Edge, Jericho, pretty much anyone really. He hasn't had many singles feuds as Morrison beyond CM Punk.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 18, 2009 16:26:42 GMT -5
More bad news maybe,rumors about that there is no divas rumble and no 6-Divas tag matches,which is very strange as we see them quite often on WWE tv.Not only that but rumors you cant edit the current superstars movesets or entrances are coming about on some circles..So if you hope to make anything different for a superstars moveset or entrance,forget about it.Hopefully those arent true but boy the past week has really made me think twice about buying the game. I feel like if you couldn't edit the movesets, that news would have broke long ago and everyone would be bitching about it since people already have the game. I would never buy this game if you couldn't edit the movesets though. Pretty much one of the first things I do once I manage to unlock all the moves in any of these games is spend about a week editing everyones moves because they are so inaccurate the majority of the time. I hate paying a match and seeing Batista do Christians DDT on me or some shit like that. Besides, its cool to be able to give the wrestlers new moves if they bust them out on TV, or change their finishers, etc. I just hope it isn't true, it would ruin the whole game for me. The sad thing is, it would be SO THQ/Yukes to finally allow you to edit the wrestlers outfits somewhat, and then take away the ability to edit their movesets.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 18, 2009 5:24:46 GMT -5
That's the only shot I've seen so far. ... Would need to see a better shot of it to be sure, but based on that, I don't like it. It looks a little bit like the WWE Undisputed Title judging from that shot...which is my favorite belt aside from Big Gold. So I like it. At least it looks more like a real title belt compared to the WWE Title anyway.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 18, 2009 1:45:08 GMT -5
I don't see the reason to have a problem with it still being called ECW. It's like the WXO now, the letters are just a logo and a brand, they don't stand for anything anymore. When is the last time you heard anyone say Extreme Championship Wrestling on air when talking about current day ECW? To be fair if I wasn't an old school ECW fan I wouldn't care as much. It just pisses me off that Vince brought it back and then basically said ECW isn't going to work in this day and age, then proceeded to bastardize it. If the old ECW was so bad and that style cant draw fans anymore, then please explain to me the sales of the ECW DVD and the ECW ONS PPV? I like the current show, but I would like it more if it would stand on its own two legs rather than cashing in on a name that supposedly is inferior to Vinces holy product. We all know that Vince used the name to establish a third brand because it was the easiest and laziest way to draw attention, fans, and initial interest. Which, I mean, its fine, Vince bought the rights so he can do whatever he wants...but its not like that is going to make me less pissed about it. Now that the brand is established I would rather it just be called something else now.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 17, 2009 23:25:57 GMT -5
Why do people think its so hard to turn these old guys heel?
Hogan was able to turn heel after over a decade of being the most beloved face in North America [maybe the world for that matter]. HHH was able to turn heel before just from one Pedigree to HBK [who had been a heel for most of his singles career prior to that including since his return up to that point]. Ric Flair was able to be a heel despite his beloved status just from running with a heel stable in Evolution.
I mean, people act like the crowd wouldn't boo HBK if he screwed over HHH and helped Legacy beat his ass. Then they point to situations like the Chris Jericho storyline where WWE never intended him to be a heel and say IF THE CROWD DIDNT BOO HIM THERE, THEY NEVER WILL!
Why WOULD THEY have booed him there? His faked injury? Accidentally allowing his wife to get punched by a heel? WWE never intended him to be booed, they didn't have him come out and rub it in the fans faces that they thought he was hurt then proceed to fake more injuries, they didn't have him show no concern about his wife and then laugh about it later.
If WWE gives the fans some real reasons to boo a John Cena or an HBK, you know, an ACTUAL HEEL TURN, the majority of crowds are going to follow along and boo the guys.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 17, 2009 21:36:44 GMT -5
- Jericho's suit is far less SRS than we expected. Blue jeans, opened white dress shirt, silver necklace, cowboy boots, and a black suit jacket. What the? When has Jericho EVER wore cowboy boots?
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 17, 2009 20:23:04 GMT -5
I still like ECW, but I miss when it was actually treated on equal footing with RAW and SD.
I also miss Extreme Rules matches happening as often as they did back then, so it had some actual justification for being called Extreme Championship Wrestling.
As for the stripping and beer comments, I would rather have tits and booze on my TV screen than Abraham Washington. I doubt I am alone there.
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