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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 17, 2009 20:07:07 GMT -5
Shane never struck me as a guy that was super invested in the business. I mean, not to the point where he would leave WWE because he was mad about the current direction or anything.
If he wanted more power or to forge the direction of the company he would have been working towards that from the beginning instead of laying back and allowing Steph to take most of the control and be groomed as a Vince successor. Why would he suddenly want that now, after years of not showing any such interest?
Shane is an intelligent and laid back guy. He probably has been planning on doing this eventually. The guy will never have to worry about money or work another day of his life if he didn't want to. More than likely he just wants to pursue his own interests, work less and in a less stressful environment, and spend more time with his family. I dont believe in any conspiracy theories regarding this.
Now if Steph suddenly resigned I WOULD be very suspicious.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 17, 2009 19:59:23 GMT -5
Realistic answer: Christian on either RAW or SD, getting a title run and a push, promo time, enough time to put on good matches, etc. Both main event scenes need new blood and he makes the most sense right now.
Unrealistic answer: Keep the brand split but unify the RAW and SD World Titles as they have done with the tag belts and let the champ be on both shows.
Midcard titles can stay separate and they attain a new meaning as they are the top belt on any given show [and considering how say, the IC Title has been pushed on SD you can easily book these belts to look important especially with that extra boost of meaning].
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 17, 2009 19:13:27 GMT -5
It's so weird how these two are two of the brightest young prospects in WWE today and they each make up for the others lacking-area. I enjoyed the promo, but Johns struggle with Mic Skills will be a continuing battle. He has everything going for him but that. I do not understand this popular opinion lately that Morrison has poor mic skills. Listening to people on here, you would think he is as bad as Shelton Benjamin circa 2004. Seriously, the guy is NOT that bad on the mic. In fact, I would say he is GOOD on the mic. He always sounds comfortable and is actually, well, entertaining the majority of the time. It makes me shake my head when I see people saying Morrison is poor on the mic yet I will see people posting that someone like Cody Rhodes, who has NEVER said anything entertaining, is a natural on the stick. Sure, JM isn't the best actor, but aside from a few legendary guys like Jake Roberts, The Rock, Raven, Steve Austin etc. most wrestlers suffer from the same problem. Wrestlers sounding kinda fake or overacting their lines is something I have grown used to from watching the stuff for years, just like B movies. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 17, 2009 19:07:32 GMT -5
Morrison.
I think Miz has definitely improved, but something about him has always made me hate him. He just seems like a natural douche and I could never root for him. Kinda like X Pac.
I wont be mad if he wins or anything, but Morrison is the first new generation guy I have been a fan of since the start who wasn't an indy guy like a CM Punk. I like him in the ring obviously, the guy is a natural. He is also starting to settle into his face role rather well, as his promo last SD proved. I just dig the guy, he seems to be the only new guy that has a little ATTITUDE in his character beyond a generic wrestling guy cutting generic wrestling promos.
Yeah, the same could be said for Miz though. I just hate him. Which is a good thing to have in a heel. I could never see the guy as a face.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 17, 2009 15:19:34 GMT -5
The fact that we cannot edit downloaded CAWs in any way sucks so much. We can't even edit their movesets or entrances. So it's basically pointless to download a Zack Ryder CAW since you can't give him "Oh Radio" as an entrance theme. I guess I'm still going to have to stick with formulas and game saves.  Why does stuff like this happen every year? They will put in a lot of good stuff but implement it in baffling or just outright BAD ways. I mean, what the hell is the point of downloading CAWs if you can never edit anything about them? Its like the programmers are completely braindead. Also, the fact that every year moves get taken out for no reason. Why remove perfectly good moves? It definitely isn't a space issue. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 15, 2009 19:22:51 GMT -5
I gotta disagree, just because THQ pissed on it for years and did nothing but recycle animations and add increasing nonsensical limits and break things that worked fine before, now it sounds like they try something new just to survive. I want someone who makes a good game not because they HAVE to, but because they want to please their fans. Fair point. Makes me wonder how much of the problem is they didn't care, and how much of it was just them thinking they WERE pleasing the majority. It's not like they're the only ones taking a dump on their fans each year since complaints aren't taken seriously. (See: pretty much any sports games franchise, ever, for more of the same each year) Yeah, its just that stuff like being able to flip guys over on the mat, costume edits, apron moves, even Royal Rumble finishers...thats stuff that is a no brainer and should have been in the game years ago. No Mercy...yeah, a different developer, engine, and system but all the stuff that is in No Mercy should at least be in SvR ten years later. This game it seems they have turned the corner though and finally focusing on what fans want instead of bra and panty matches and removing things people like. Hopefully they continue the momentum. There are a lot of things they could still do with the series. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 15, 2009 18:57:57 GMT -5
It would be pointless without a lot of the guys tied up in TNA, such as Nash, Steiner, Jarrett.
Then guys like the majority of the cruisers and midcard are either too old and washed up now or dead. So I say no. Do you really wanna watch old ass Arn Anderson and Ric Flair lead Mongo and Dean Malenko into battle against old ass Kevin Nash, fat Scott Hall, X Pac and Big Show? Not me.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 15, 2009 17:05:41 GMT -5
I dont really care about WWE Womens wrestling or Mickie James, but the obvious answer would be that whatever her personality is in real life doesn't effect her ability to entertain or the quality of her work. About the only thing I can say about Mickie James is her fanbase creeps me out a lot of the time, and I was also tired of seeing everyone she wrestles blamed for her constant botches and sloppiness. She has looked like she could give a crap for a long time now and thats a shame. Considering women like Candice attempted to bust their ass to improve and recovered from injuries and stuff only to get released it kinda ticks me off to watch this supposed awesome womens wrestler who should never be criticized walk through the motions and botch every single week...and I cant believe I am sticking up for Candice of all people, but there ya go. How does her fanbase creep you out? Last time I checked we had stopped drinking the blood of the innocent. And if you look, you'll see that for everyone who blames, let's say Rosa for that crap match a while back, there's someone who goes after Mickie instead, it's not like she universally praised through everything. Candice improved a lot, got hurt, and came back worse off than ever. You're making it sound like Mickie never busted her ass at all. No one ever said she shouldn't be critizied, don't be ridiculous. She shouldn't be portrayed as some Godlike entity which can do no wrong, and yes, I'm sure there are people who do that. But she shouldn't be lynched at every singe turn she makes either. I think we can all find bigger evils in the WWE than Mickster. They creep me out because they defend her like shes their girlfriend or something half the time. They take things a bit too hard. Thats really not a debate I wanna get into though, doesn't have much to do with her or WWE. As far as Mickie goes, I just think she has sucked for awhile now and there isnt anything she is doing that shows her she deserves any sort of push or title. Maybe if she gets in shape and stops botching all the time. McCool gets tons of hate on here for whatever reason but it cant be denied that she is a good wrestler. I never see Mickie get the hate she gets although she deserves it far more in my opinion. Last time I saw a Mickie match she was acting with a total lack of any professionalism during that Gail Kim match. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 15, 2009 16:36:11 GMT -5
She's a smart, attractive, enthusiastic and very giving person. I enjoy watching her in the ring. What's there not to like? I dont really care about WWE Womens wrestling or Mickie James, but the obvious answer would be that whatever her personality is in real life doesn't effect her ability to entertain or the quality of her work. About the only thing I can say about Mickie James is her fanbase creeps me out a lot of the time, and I was also tired of seeing everyone she wrestles blamed for her constant botches and sloppiness. She has looked like she could give a crap for a long time now and thats a shame. Considering women like Candice attempted to bust their ass to improve and recovered from injuries and stuff only to get released it kinda ticks me off to watch this supposed awesome womens wrestler who should never be criticized walk through the motions and botch every single week...and I cant believe I am sticking up for Candice of all people, but there ya go. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 20:56:20 GMT -5
If Rock can turn heel in the twilight of his career, HBK can.
In fact, his heel turn would probably go exactly like the Rocks, where he is still getting a mixture of cheers and boos but managing to tow the line and stay heel.
I never understand these arguments anyways considering WWEs top star is a face that gets booed half the time. Why cant a heel turn and get cheered half the time?
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 20:51:26 GMT -5
I can't believe so many posters up in here are acting like the Spirit Squad sucked. They had decent moves, their shtick worked and they got over. They shouldn't have been killed off like they were. And who knows how long the shelf life of their gimmick could've been? If a wrestling superhero could stay over for damn near five years, anybody can if they're worked with right. SS hadn't been around for a year before they started getting booked oddly. I loved everything about the Spirit Squad, to be honest. DX constantly squashing them annoyed me, and I hated how they were ended. I just didn't see the appeal in watching DX destroy them over and over again, nor did it make much sense for McMahon to continually back them for months when he could easily employ much more capable heels if he wanted to. Also, it made little sense to give a group so much TV time and emphasis only to randomly job them out and get rid of them. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 18:50:21 GMT -5
It would be good for a single DVD. He hasn't had tons of matches and most of them were good. So why not? If they released a VINCE DVD why not a Shane one? At least Shane had some actually good matches compared to Vince. I agree Shane has had better matches but Vince had a better story. Overall I like Vince better then Shane but a DVD still would be decent. Oh I agree, its just that with these sorts of DVDs I may watch the doc once so it only ends up being a bonus to me. The matches are what I care about. If a DVD has a good doc but is filled with crappy matches I may catch the doc somehow but I would never buy the DVD since I wouldn't watch it more than once. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 18:44:14 GMT -5
I dislike it. Remember when TNA got flack for using gimmicks all the time? Oh you know, WWE is so much better because they dont have to rely on gimmicks to sell PPVs and feuds all the time, a PPV of all cage matches is stupid, blah blah blah.
Now they are doing it. YAY!
Plus I used to hear all this talk about telling a story in the ring, how that is more important than relying on weapons, gimmicks and spots. You know, the supposed WWE style. I would sit there having to hear how ECW was less of a fed because all their PPVs had extreme and gimmick matches. BAH. I guess if WWE is doing it its okay.
Whatever WWE pushes is the way wrestling is supposed to be.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 18:33:10 GMT -5
Paul I can SOMEWHAT understand being lost in the shuffle. He is a great worker, great look, great charisma, but it is easier for the male wrestlers to get lost when there are so many across the brands and so few spots. I wish he were used better, he is at least IC or US Title level in skill and has the potential to be a main eventer. I dont agree with it, I can just see how it would happen.
Katie Lea, on the other hand, I just dont get. She has a great look and skill in the ring, plus charisma that a lot of the other divas lack. She could be a great heel for either womans division. Then again the same could be said for Nattie and she gets no push either.
It seems like WWE holds it against you if you are a diva capable in the ring. Well, I suppose I shouldn't say holds it against you, its just easier for them to use you in a role where you are making the less capable divas look good by carrying them and jobbing to them. They did it with Victoria, they did it with Molly, they are doing it with Nattie, Katie, and for the most part Beth.
Its why I have never been interested in WWE Womens wrestling. They pick their poster girls to push and then the real wrestlers get to make them look good. If the poster girl ends up being somewhat skillfull in the ring like Trish or McCool, its just a bonus for them.
Right now the only girl to really buck that trend has been Melina. She was pretty good from the start and thankfully has been pushed well.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 18:22:58 GMT -5
It would be good for a single DVD. He hasn't had tons of matches and most of them were good. So why not?
If they released a VINCE DVD why not a Shane one? At least Shane had some actually good matches compared to Vince.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 5:15:17 GMT -5
I would say so.
Ditto for Hogan. He was dead in the water until becoming the third man.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 4:17:37 GMT -5
Eh, if Sgt. Slaughter or Yokozuna could get brief title runs, I dont see why he couldn't.
Even being a big Hulkamaniac as a kid, when he was fed to Hogan on SNME I scratched my head a bit. I figured they were building him up for a PPV showdown with Hogan at least.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 3:15:44 GMT -5
Miz, Goldust, Regal, Chris Masters, Beth Phoenix, Hart Dynasty, Kane, Taker...the rest either have lyrics or suck.
When you look at it, most of these are old or based on old themes. I bet Miz gets a lyrical entrance theme soon, too.
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 2:47:28 GMT -5
I love tag teams where two partners already dislike each other. Cena/Orton, MVP/Hardy, and Angle/Benoit. I cant stand that. If they dont like each other theres no reason why they would win one match let along multiple tag matches and win a tag title over a well established experienced teams. Why? Tag team wrestling would be like anything else in life. You dont have to like your teammate to do the best. In fact, sometimes that creates a rivalry which makes both guys better at their respective job, each trying to one up the other. Thats usually how those sorts of teams are portrayed anyway, and they typically end up losing either out of miscommunications or flat out screwing each other over, which ends up underlining the basic dynamics of tag wrestling: you have to work good together to win. It more bothers me when two main eventers get thrown together and win the tag titles during their first teaming. Even if they work good together you would think they would need a few matchups under their belt before they can go out and beat an established team. |
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Post by Bubble Lead on Oct 14, 2009 1:24:46 GMT -5
There's only one Nature Boy. Why force a guy into his role, rather than letting him carve out his own niche? It would be like debuting a guy in red and yellow and calling him Buck Brogan Yeah, copying a gimmick never worked for guys like Ric Flair. Oh, wait... I was sort of expecting someone would take the gimmick when Flair retired to stay with tradition. Of course, Flair owns the gimmick and seems to have problems with staying retired, which would defeat the whole purpose. |
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