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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 9, 2007 14:03:04 GMT -5
TNA: The guy with the Superman avatar on Wrestlecrap comes into all of our threads to complain about us.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 11, 2007 20:23:32 GMT -5
oh, so they hired Johnny Stamboli now too? Apparently. I thought he re-signed with WWE a couple months ago to do that gimmick, guess he didn't. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 11, 2007 20:20:49 GMT -5
Johnny the Bull!!!
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 7, 2007 8:41:35 GMT -5
You bring up Kevin Nash and that's funny to me. Remember last time TNA put him in the main event and he had the heart attack "scare"? Why on earth would they put him in a main event situation again with his track record? If they ask him to job, you know he won't do it. How is him in the main event a positive? And when was the last time Rhino in an important match? Monster's Ball? I'll give you Angle, Christian, Sting and even though I can't stand them, Team 3d have done good for TNA. But last weeks show was almost a Angle overdose. He doesn't have to be on every 5 minutes. Kevin Nash has been nothing but a positive for TNA for the past two years. When was the last time he wrestled? 2004? There's nothing wrong with having a very well known, charismatic star like Nash on your show, especially when he's playing to his strengths (which clearly is not wrestling in main events). This run is his last hurrah, and I seriously doubt he'll be in the ring long enough in any of his upcoming "matches" to be an embarrassment. Even he knows that he sucks in the ring enough to stay out of the way. He's allowed a nostalgia run, he's one of the 10 biggest stars in the industry since 1995. And what does Angle on "every five minutes" have to do with anything? Do you not remember when WCW was murdering Raw in the ratings, and Stone Cold SOMEHOW showed up in every RAW segment out of Vince's desperation? If you watch the RAWs when they were losing in the Monday Night Wars, it was ridiculous. Doesn't TNA (as the underdog) have the same leeway to at least try that sort of stuff? |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 7, 2007 8:19:30 GMT -5
how many non-ex-WWE/WCW wrestlers are actually TNA main eventers, besides Samoa Joe? none right? Who cares? Honestly, do you REALLY think it's a bad thing that a NATIONAL promotion that did not EXIST six years ago is already in primetime TV, with two hours of TV time and monthly PPVs, and boasts a roster of WWE/WCW "rejects" like.... Kurt Angle Sting Christian Kevin Nash Team 3D Rhino & possibly Booker T (one of WWE's main eventers across brands until he left) All of those WWE/WCW rejects still have something positive to add, and only Team 3D & Rhino were "fired". I'd put those eight guys against the WWE's top guys right now (and Rhino isn't a major player). And TNA has arguably better complimentary talent on the mid and lower card. Yes, guys like BG James and Kip James suck for TNA. But they're RARELY WRESTLING ON THE SHOW. Maybe once every three weeks (if that). Fatu is gone. Test was barely there. Really, this whole "TNA IZ WWE rejectZ" thing is getting really tired. They've switched gears and are putting on pretty damn good TV and PPV for the past month and a half or so. Best stuff you can find on TV in America at least (by far), even with the creative problems. It's like people forget what wrestling was like before there was only one option, and that was Vince/WWE. Every promotion used to technically be full of "rejects" from other promotions (and in PROMINENT ROLES, mind you). And for you old fogeys out there, of course I'm talking about the stodgy, dark old days of January 2001. I hate to be rah-rah for TNA, but geez louise. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 4, 2007 23:14:31 GMT -5
It's pretty hilarious that every single day on here, people keep bringing up Test as this major TNA disaster, yet he appeared in the promotion only three times...four months ago.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 3, 2007 13:25:11 GMT -5
We go, "Dude, that was 12 years ago, what wrestler that we're seeing tonight is going to care about that?" Jay Lethal comes out, looks right at him and makes the Wolfpac sign, "nWo for life!" And we're like, "Right! The guy who thinks he's Macho Man!" That's pretty awesome. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 3, 2007 0:18:14 GMT -5
I still laugh at that part when Hogan's laughing maniacally and going, "Wait...I almost forgot something REALLY important! I'm supposed to wrestle the Giant! I FORGOT!!! It slipped my mind!"
Hogan was so freaking awesome in that angle. Good stuff.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 3, 2007 22:43:54 GMT -5
The Angle thing was not a botch. The spot before that, Angle broke up a Sting top rope splash by hitting Sting in the stomach/chest with both knees.
So, what did Angle do next after the failed pin? Get on the top rope, do a 450 knee drop, to...hit Sting in the stomach/chest with both knees AGAIN.
The Angle knee drop was far too logical to be a botch, but I guess anything cool that happens in TNA must be some sort of an accident, right?
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 11:57:58 GMT -5
I think Hangmen 3 have to eventually align with Age of the Fall. If not, then ROH wasted roughly five minutes of my time while watching that Adam Pearce promo on ROH's first PPV. Seven minutes if you count the Brent Albright "Hired Gun" video that was setting him up to ultimately join the fourth-rate stable that is "Hangmen 3". Twelve minutes if you count the Whitmer-Morishima squash that led into all of that.
When I consider everything, Hangmen 3 would have to be allies or have something to do with Age of The Fall (because they seemed to be 'about' roughly the same ideals)...or else Gabe has far less of an idea of what he's doing than everyone gives him credit for. Because Hangmen 3 on its own is boring, and Albright deserves far better than Whitmer and Pearce.
Maybe I'm wrong, but that's JMO.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 1, 2007 3:42:52 GMT -5
I think I'm probably the only one who is cringing at the thought of having Hall come back, for a few reasons: 1) I've never been a big fan of Hall. 2) Let's look at this: Total Non-stop Angle and Kevin Nash vs. Sting and Scott Hall. This reeks of over-pushed and/or long-past-their prime politicking veterans holding back the young talent. Couldn't they have come up with a better, younger choice for Sting to spotlight in the main event? Thereby, giving a great push to someone who is the future? 3) This has the potential to turn into another lame attempt at an nWo wannabe faction, with Hall, Nash and Angle. Sting gets laid out, Angle walks away with the gold, and once again the veterans take the spotlight with an angle that has been overused beyond death. (I really don't see Angle agreeing to being part of a faction that would hold him back, though. But wrestling today is no stranger to stupidity.) 4) This also has the potential to be a non-sensical Russo swerve, where Nash and Hall team with Sting to form a faction against Angle. It's a long, long, long, longshot, but with Russo, sense comes long down the line after shock value. If it's Booker T, don't even get me started on the whole 'bring in more veterans (read: 'WWE guys') so the younger talent can be buried some more' discussion. Well, at least they got rid of Fatu. That's a start. This isn't directed totally at your post, but some of the anti-Hall and Booker T in TNA sentiments. I realize that we're all entitled to our opinions on here, but in this case, I don't get some of the griping, especially when people bring up Test and Rikishi as examples backing up. Hall and Booker T actually still add positive value to a #2 national wrestling promotion. Test and Rikishi don't. That's the difference. That's just talking star power and recognition, but I'll also add that the modern day over-40 versions of Hall and Booker T could still out-work Fatu and Test in the ring, too, and put on more exciting matches with a wider variety of opponents. Right away, that makes Hall and Booker immediately cool additions to TNA. Scott Hall had decent matches when he was in TNA last time, and yes, he was old and fat then, too. As a bonus, he loves to job. Since people keep bringing up Test and Fatu, I think it's reasonable for someone to bring up that Scott Hall and Booker T were, are, and will always be miles better than Test and Fatu in every single aspect of performing in the business. When people gripe about TNA bringing in old guys, or ex-WWE guys, these are probably two of the worst examples of wrestlers (that fit both categories) to gripe about. Hell, TNA could've brought in Sid and Mideon. Or, Brian Christopher and Scotty 2 Hotty. Relax. It's just Scott Hall and Booker T, two of the top 15-20 biggest wrestling stars since 1995. (I don't think Hall will be around long, I think he's pretty much there for the short term to be cool and recognizable TV like Nash has. I could see Booker working full-time). |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Oct 24, 2007 4:17:47 GMT -5
I love WCCW, but honestly, what's with all the random WCCW title guys? WCCW was a regional heavyweight belt until 1985, when they split from NWA. Might as well put all of the Missouri Heavyweight Title holders from 1984-earlier into the tourney, too, since that held more industry importance than the WCCW's top belt (the Missouri Belt was always the "trial run" for potential NWA world champions of the future). Is Black Bart really worthy of being in such a tourney?
And damn this Choshu and Tsuruta matchup! My old-school All Japan allegiance screams Jumbo, but Choshu's invasion Army (Ishingun) was the famous old-school inspiration of the original NWO, and the man practically invented the Scorpion Deathlock/Sharpshooter, which was a very influential move in American wrestling. Historically, Riki is super duper important.
Choshu.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Nov 1, 2007 7:09:43 GMT -5
When I was 4, one random Saturday morning in North Carolina, the cartoons were ending, and I flipped the TV knob (no remote for our family back in '86), and stumbled upon highlights of this loud, obnoxious white-haired guy that was bleeding, and his angry friends were beating up some young guy in a locker room.
The bad guys were rubbing the kid's face into the concrete until there was a pool of blood on the ground, and his nose was broken. It was a hell of a scene, and I couldn't believe these guys were beating somebody up that bad on TV, and NOBODY DID ANYTHING about it. Then, the bad guys laughed, screamed, and talked about how rich and great they were.
Ric Flair & The Four Horsemen should've been easier on Ricky Morton. I was never a huge Rock N' Roll Express fan, even as a child...and I'm not trying to sound smarkish in hindsight (NWA had "tougher" babyfaces like the Road Warriors, Dusty, Magnum TA), but one of the Horsemen/Morton beatdowns drew me in.
It was literally that one segment that did it. Strangely, I already knew who Hulk Hogan was because he was on my dad's Sports Illustrated or something, and I saw his toy/doll at K-Mart, but I never paid attention, I thought Hogan was a boxer or action hero or something.
Seemed like a week later, I discovered that our cable TV could get NWA, WWF, AWA on ESPN, WCCW and Memphis/CWA on our UHF channels, UWF and Florida on HTS, and it was over. I was hooked. How couldn't you be with access to all of those shows on TV? In hindsight, that was an amazing time to become a fan. Couple weeks later, my dad took me to Greensboro Coliseum to watch Ricky Morton fight Flair for the world title at a JCP card, that was my first show.
Obviously, Flair wound up as my favorite wrestler of all-time, but damnit if he didn't seem like the most evil bastard in the world when I was 4. In hindsight, Flair was good enough to get me to nag my pops to drive 30 miles and plunk down $25 to see him get beat up (which he did, but didn't lose, and Dusty Rhodes came out and beat him up some more).
Good times.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Oct 24, 2007 4:01:23 GMT -5
I never thought Paul Roma seemed that bad. In retrospect, part of me thinks that he was simply Midget Chris Masters, but another part thinks he could've been a much bigger star than he was during the Power & Glory days. He had a look, and wasn't a clod in the ring.
In fact, the Horsemen should've been a launching point for the latter half of Roma's career, but it never happened, and most of that was due to the fact that his version of the Horsemen was such a failure (and that version was a complete failure more due to the Sid/Arn "incident" more than anything the WWE DVD/HHH historical version of Roma would lead you to believe). He would've made a good tag guy and possible WCW U.S. Champ had the cards fallen right. He should've at least had a decent run in WCW at the TV/US Title level, then headed back to Vince during the "Hogan is WCW"-era for a better run, had his time in Atlanta not been so tainted from the get-go. From an outsider's perspective, that WCW run seemed to kill not Roma's potential, but overall interest in the business.
As an aside, if Roma was really Tully Blanchard's last minute replacement, I've always thought a better member would've been a young Dustin Rhodes. If the Horsemen would've been heel in 1993, and convinced a young, impressionable, cocky Dustin to join up with Flair, that would've been a decent angle at the time. Too bad Dusty was booking when the Horsemen came back in...
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Oct 24, 2007 3:36:01 GMT -5
I agree with him to an extent, the extent of some RoH fans taken things too seriously, but that can be argued with fans of anything. I have no reason to stick up for ROH fans, but Jericho DID NOT say anything bad about ROH fans in his interview. They were talking about the low turnout at the Cow Palace, and Jericho was recalling an old AWA show from Winnipeg when he went to cover it for the local paper (because he got a job as a local wrestling reporter...because nobody else wanted to do it), and only 300 people showed up in this big arena to see AWA. Jericho was joking that he felt like a loser since everybody else in the city of Winnipeg must've had cooler stuff going on than being at the wrestling show he was at. He was speaking of Winnipeg, mind you, and it sounded like he was making fun of his own wrestling nerdom experiences in the past (and making fun of Meltzer for being at that poorly organized convention). He also said that Gabe sent him a bunch of ROH DVDs, he loves it, and he ordered their two TV PPVs so far and enjoyed them. Never said anything about their fans. The only things he said about ROH were putting over the product, along with some of the workers (he put over Larry Sweeney's ability as a talker tremendously...which I thought was pretty damn cool of him). The only negative I heard about ROH wasn't the fans, but he thought a small portion of their matches were "trainwrecks" from a psychology standpoint, but overall, he dug it. I have no idea where the original report in the thread came from, unless I listened to a different interview, or missed something huge. Since I just listened to it, and here are other things Y2J "put over", or spoke well of in passing...-John Cena -Vince McMahon -Hulk Hogan -WWE -TNA -ROH -TNA Bound For Glory '07 -Wrestling PPVs in general (says he still orders all of them that anyone puts out) -post-WCW Bischoff (said he was a nice guy in WWE) -Bryan Danielson -Nigel McGuinness -Samoa Joe -AJ Styles - AJ Styles' "new character" (bolded since everyone on here hates it so much) - Chris Sabin-Alex Shelley (bolded for awesomeness) -Team 3D's ability to have a feud w/MCMG without burying those guys (he's confident Ray and D-Von would never intentionally bury MCMG, that's not how they do business) -Amazing Kong (saw her in TNA, said was the coolest thing to happen to women's wrestling "since Bull Nakano") -Vince Russo, for being the main guy who fought for him getting into WWE in 1999. -Axl Rose -David Lee Roth's showmanship (said it was a major inspiration) -Larry Sweeney Things Jericho "buried"...-WCW -Goldberg's attitude towards him in WCW. -Ralphus's "attitude" -The shooting-star press (since he broke his arm) -Bischoff's attitude towards the end of his WCW run. -TNA's creative direction (he was asked about Russo, and said it's not necessarily Russo, there are some "other guys" over there...maybe he just gets the same "newz" we all do) -TNA's TV and PPV camera director, and the way they edit their TV shows -Vince Russo's early Y2J angles in WWE (wrestling Shamrock in a cage, Mr. Hughes as a bodyguard, manager Howard Finkel, etc.). -Young wrestlers who don't actively develop their on-air personalities, but sit around and wait for writers to come up with something for them (not a burial, but advice, since that's what he was forced to do in WCW.) So yeah, I made too big of a list of things he put over and/or buried, but most of those bullet points were more "NEWZworthy" on here then Jericho bashing fans that he didn't bash. Since it seems like 99% of us are big Jericho fans (no matter our preference in modern wrestling), I suggest finding a link to the interview if you haven't heard it. It's good stuff, if you can sit through the 10-12 minutes that Meltzer and Alvarez sweat recent MMA news on a pro wrestling radio show. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Oct 22, 2007 1:09:16 GMT -5
As a kid, Sweet Stan Lane was probably the first person I ever heard of that had "educated feet". But he's not "Other". Low Ki/Senshe is, and he wins the poll, IMO. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Oct 21, 2007 16:02:37 GMT -5
Tony Skeeav-own
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Oct 17, 2007 5:29:37 GMT -5
Out of the 1,724 stupid things TNA Creative has done since Matt Morgan signed...their putting him in this particular role is a rare moment of brilliance.
Just my opinion, but I think Morgan's now a far bigger potential breakout star for TNA by coming in this way...as opposed to if he came in actually wrestling and destroying Shark Boy or Havoc on every third Impact, or having a meaningless non-finish against somebody like Tomko or Abyss on a TV match that nobody would remember two weeks later.
Now, I'm far more interested in seeing Morgan fight guys than I was back when I heard he was coming in. By not getting to kick too much ass thus far, I'm actually anticipating seeing him fight somebody...and I don't think I'm alone, he seems pretty over. He's been used very, very well on TV and PPV. IMO, early on, Morgan's the best bodyguard character since "Diesel", and that Diesel/Michaels angle's been copycatted with almost every new tall wrestler on national TV since that last time it worked in 1994.
(Maybe I'm assuming too much, but I figure this character was one of Cornette's pet projects on the creative team. By trying to get somebody over, this whole thing's been done far too correctly by normal TNA standards).
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Oct 16, 2007 5:42:24 GMT -5
Pretty sure that a young Flair was originally brought into the Carolinas as a "cousin" of the Andersons (since the 1970s in Mid-Atlantic), before feuding with Ole & Gene a couple years later. They still always mentioned the Flair-Anderson relation in the 1980s, then stopped...so yeah, it was kind of like Edge & Christian.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Oct 15, 2007 2:21:29 GMT -5
Does anybody on here know which indie promotions this "Rasheed Creed" guy worked in the past? That guy is money. The Team Pacman match was roughly 97 times better than originally scheduled, if only due to his super bumping presence.
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