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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 18, 2007 3:29:36 GMT -5
I remember watching that match live. Aside from the botch, Daniels and Modest were working so differently (in a good way), a crisp, VERY physical "cruiserweight" style not seen before on Monday Night TV, I thought they were gonna have huge upsides in (and for) WCW. Those two guys worked really well together.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 8:33:17 GMT -5
Ms. Shark Boy.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 9, 2007 17:23:06 GMT -5
How sweet would it be if he won Employee of the Month. In the tradition of Floor Manager Bob Whittaker, in the tradition of CSR Emily Tilsburg, all the Cart Boys, Bill in Sporting Goods; I accept this 'Employee of the Month' plaque and glazed ham. Wait a second . . . wait a second . . . Old Irma the Greeter, the kids working the mini Pizza Hut . . . the fat man himself, Les behind the video game counter . . . and they can all KISS . . . MY . . . ASS! *throws plaque on the sales floor* ^ This made me laugh. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 10:35:04 GMT -5
What was the story behind Hogan's new look and tweener behaviour? I think he just got tired of being booed by half the crowd as a babyface (like Cena sometimes now), and was smart enough to see the light that the business was changing/evolving. Funny enough, the new look of tweener-face Hogan ended that night he burned The Observer on WCW in 1995, an angle that nobody but Dave and 7,000 other people even got. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 12:01:28 GMT -5
You take the good, you take the bad, you take them both and there you have The facts of life, the facts of life. There’s a time you got to go and show You’re growin’ now you know about the facts of life, The facts of life. When the world never seems to be livin up to your dreams And suddenly you’re finding out The facts of life are all about you, you. It takes a lot to get ‘em right When you’re learning the facts of life. (learning the facts of life) Learning the facts of life (learning the facts of life) Learning the facts of life. Damnit. These Project 161 guys are killing me with their new blog entries. What does all of this mean!?!?!  ?  |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 11:17:54 GMT -5
I think people worrying about ROH losing a PPV are a little off the mark, or equating it too closely to the old days with ECW. Times are different than when ECW was on PPV (not to mention that 1996 ECW was a far bigger deal than 2007 ROH is right now).
Congressmen aren't trying to bring down Ultimate Fighting anymore over brutality, plus, there's some pretty sick shit that makes it onto PPV. Like Norbit.
This ROH show will make it to PPV, and it will be glorious.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 8:37:18 GMT -5
I'm not exactly a seasoned fan of ROH but dammit if this crap ain't cool looking.     Yep. That looks awesome. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 8:30:04 GMT -5
If I didn't have DirecTV, I'd order the shit out of this PPV. That Briscoes match sounds amazing. If I knew Project 161 was going to be DIFH, you could've colored me unimpressed. But I think Necro's money, and a great contrast to Jacobs/Black, and Jacobs cutting a promo under a hanged Briscoe with blood dripping all over him sounds like a 2007 equivalent to the Freebirds blinding JYD with hair cream.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 8:22:19 GMT -5
To me, aside from "Thunder", the beginnings of the end of WCW were...
1) Bret Hart, non-character.
After Survivor Series '97, people really cared about Bret Hart. They cared so much that Hart's first major WCW match against Flair over the issue of "Who really is the best there ever is, was, or will be?" drew a great buyrate. Bret should've been kept as a separate entity from WCW/NWO's feud, and made a strong player. When your competition screws over a guy and the public has compassion for him, you present him strongly. However, WCW didn't know what to do with him, aligned him with Hogan, and ruined his drawing power.
2) When Sean Waltman debuted in WWF.
As crazy as this sounds now, back then, it felt like Syxx-Pac getting fired/jumping to WWF added an NWO-stamp of approval to not only DX, but a stronger WWF coming right off of a hot Wrestlemania (w/Tyson, and an anointed Stone Cold). Pretty sure that Waltman debuted with a heated shoot the night after. For me, the Hunter, X-Pac, New Age Outlaws version (initially) was way cooler than HBK, HHH, and Chyna. After Waltman came over, DX & WWF attacked WCW with more credibility with the kids than Vince doing "Billionaire Ted/Huckster skits or Jim Cornette whining in a RAW shoot about Hall, Nash, and Hogan. Plus, firing Waltman was the point when Hall & Nash got pissed off at Bischoff and stopped caring, stopped trying to do a good job, and were only there to collect a paycheck.
3) Warrior.
I knew tons of die-hard WWF fans that were excited about Warrior's WCW debut for some reason, and even ordered Fall Brawl '97, which was a debacle from top to bottom. They were so put off and embarrassed by Fall Brawl that they didn't even care about Hogan/Warrior at Havoc. By then, WCW was so bad, there was no turning back.
"The Fingerpoke of Doom" may have been the Death of WCW, but it was only the final nail. There were so many other brutal mistakes made in 1998 WCW (suing Flair and keeping him off TV, 10 hours of weekly TV, the Goldberg/Hogan hot shot on free TV, Sting joining NWO red, Hall turning on Nash, Jay Leno, a hot face Savage tearing his knee and missing a year, Wolfpac/Black&White feud with no payoff).
That entire year of prominent awfulness (against a hot WWF product) killed people caring about WCW far more than seven Starrcade '97s, Russo, or David Arquette ever could have.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 7:32:10 GMT -5
Don't think it was that bad, but of course it's a fool's errand to try and defend it online here. No, you're right. Starrcade '97 wasn't that bad. I was 16, my dad ordered it, my friends came over, Sting beat Hogan, Bret was great in his role getting huge pops in the arena and in our den. We all had a good time. Kevin Nash not wrestling The Giant wasn't a disappointment. In hindsight the Scott Hall/Giant interaction was better than any Nash/Giant match could've been. And people complaining about Raven not wrestling are missing the point that Raven always refused to wrestle in a kayfabe sense during that time, so it made complete sense, especially if he was injured. Maybe we were just blind marks then, but nobody I knew was disappointed with the PPV. It was a solid, big show. It wasn't exactly "too sweet", but it was pretty sweet. Sometimes I think that a lot of people who complain about Starrcade '97 didn't even watch it live. As a WCW fan since I first started watching the Crockett WTBS shows in 1986, I've had roughly 500 worse experiences with their product. When NWA/WCW was good, it was very good. When it was bad, it was terrible. Starrcade '97 wasn't terrible. The show was in no way "the biggest letdown in wrestling history". Not even close. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 17, 2007 0:36:43 GMT -5
I just didn't get why TNA Management was being so hard on Abyss.
On Sunday, the guy lost one of the biggest matches of his career. Then immediately afterwards, his old mentor and closest companion told him he was going to make his live a living hell, right before a monster with a large knife dragged him underneath the ring and did god knows what to him.
Could you imagine having all of that happen to you, only to come back into work after a three-day break and have your boss say you have to do something practically impossible (beat an Olympic gold medalist at his specialty)...or you're fired? TNA really should've cut Abyss some slack last week.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 16, 2007 11:49:21 GMT -5
I'm saddened that there are more votes for Torrie Wilson than Miss Elizabeth. To quote Mach: "Oooooohhh Noooo!!!!". In mainstream wrestling, potential Torrie Wilsons are a dime a dozen. Miss Elizabeths are a dime a thousand.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 12, 2007 15:50:06 GMT -5
Any one know if one with Time Warner Cable could get this channel? Yeah, I know it's on my digital sports tier here. And it's weird that Vs. is the company mentioned. As has been said, there was a rumor that CZW was negotioating with them for a show. So it leads me to believe: -Johnson just took the CZW story and applied it here as a rumor. -Zandig heard about this, and fed someone bad info saying they sent a tape and were the ones negotiating the deal. -Both are true, ROH and CZW are negotiating deals, and Vs. might be doing a back-to-back deal to air either or both. All speculation. And while I'm no big fan of CZW, I'd have no problem watching either, or hopefully, both. Months ago, VS was thought to be an easy destination for TNA if they couldn't get two hours out of any other network. Seems like VS has been interested in pro wrestling for a while. ROH would be cool on there, I'll DVR the shit out of that. |
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 4, 2007 4:27:44 GMT -5
The last update totally checks out if you read it to yourself as heel Hogan.
HOLLYWOOD HOGAN: "There's a clear disconnect between us and the fraudulent mimickers (...Mean Gene)".
and...
HOLLYWOOD HOGAN: "Everyone's been asking, 'How deep does the rabbit hole go (...man!)?"
Gabe probably made Hogan edit out all the "Well ya know somethin", "brother", and "dudes" in his blog because they don't want to telegraph it. That's the great thing about ROH booking, Gabe really pays attention to the little things. When you combine this revelation with the fact that the update before this sounds like it was written by Warrior, I think they're right...Project 161 is gonna be big.
WARRIOR: Emblazoned by peasants (snort)
Two sons bred for crowns of honor
Have staked their claim as kings among the arrogant
Their reign is a sham (snort)
Consequently,
Righteous mutiny has arisen
A charger of darkness we ride (snort),
On our path to not only take their throne
But their heads as well
(raises his arms to the heavens and shakes his head wildly)
The feud is going to culminate with Briscoes vs. Hogan/Warrior.
Oh, and 161 stands for "161 months". On 9/15/07, it will be 161 months since Hulk Hogan debuted in WCW in 1994, putting it on the map before helping destroy it from within. The Death of ROH is Hogan's new "project". Thus, 161 months later, he begins again...
But this time, Gabe's just booking the angle where Hogan's there to kill off ROH (storyline wise) from the very beginning instead of having him be face for two years, and then running the invasion angle. Although it's a shame that Gabe won't give Hogan at least a small face run from the beginning, because you sacrifice matchups like Hogan/Steen, Hogan/Albright, Hogan/Whitmer, and Hogan/Pearce, but I'm sure whatever is planned for 161 is going to be brilliant enough, it'll probably make up for it. Plus, I think Hogan will just wind up being a face anyway in FIP.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 3, 2007 23:11:05 GMT -5
Bashams.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 13, 2007 23:45:44 GMT -5
"This is a fine day in the rich history of a great magazine, and I am elated to learn Oscar de La Hoya is the proud new patriarch of the PWI family".
- Bill Apter
"Although Floyd Mayweather's a loudmouth, HE would've been a better choice to own PWI. Mayweather's a real fighter, not some pretty boy who likes to play dress-up with boxing gloves!!!"
- Bill Apter as "Matt Brock"
"My inside sources have a hot scoop that Oscar prefers to hold board meetings shirtless. Yum."
- Bill Apter as "Liz Hunter"
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 13, 2007 2:28:34 GMT -5
Cleveland All-Pro Wrestling is on STO (DirecTV ch. 657) if you have the sports tier. There's another indy that's on Comcast Sports South, a channel I can't get because I live outside the Southeast...
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 13, 2007 23:19:55 GMT -5
I think Hall should be on a creative team, somewhere. WWE or TNA.
When he came to WWF in 1992, he sat in Vince McMahon's office right next to his old buddy Curt Hennig (who arranged a meeting, trying to help get Hall a job). Vince talked on and on about how he pictured Hall as an Army guy, ala Cpl. Kirschner...
Hall said if Vince wanted him to play G.I. Joe, he'd be the best G.I. Joe he could be. But then he started impersonating Scarface, which cracked Vince up (even though Vince hadn't seen the movie yet), and he wanted to be called "Razor" because he was a big fan of the boxer Razor Ruddick. During the meeting, Hall went to take a piss in the Titan offices, and asked Tito Santana for a good last name that began with "R", to go with "Razor". Tito said "Ramon", and Hall walked back to Vince's office, finished plotting out one of the great WWF characters of all-time, and got hired on the spot.
When Scott Hall came to WCW in 1996, he thought Sting's face-painted surfer gimmick was getting outdated and lame. To be nice, he told Sting he thought he'd look pretty sweet as The Crow. 11 years later, Sting still looks like that. Plus, Hall, Bischoff, and Terry Taylor were the main creative influences on the Outsiders invasion angle/early NWO.
So there's two of the best gimmicks of the 1990s (and one of the best angles), and Scott Hall helped come up with all of them. From his PWTorch shoot, he had some pretty definitive ideas of what should and shouldn't work anymore in today's wrestling, and I think most of us would agree with the ideas.
Seems like a really smart dude, and seems to hate the cheesy side of wrestling (Razor Ramon & Crow Sting are kinda cheesy by today's standards, but they were two of the coolest things around in their own time). Hearing him in that one shoot, he's still a fan and watches it, but some of the stupid crap out there today pisses him off. Seems like a good guy to have in the writing room while your creative team is sitting around laughing at their own terrible ideas that won't work.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 11, 2007 16:10:55 GMT -5
TNA could sign roughly 597 ex-1990s wrestlers that would be worse than a sober Scott Hall.
1. He lives by Orlando, so it costs nothing to fly him in.
2. He says he's saved up his money, so like Nash, you barely have to pay him anything...Nash is practically doing this for fun from what I've heard.
3. He's already said a few months back that he'd be more interested in working in TNA only as an agent, a member of the creative team, or as a mentor for young guys to talk out their problems with.
I say bring in Hall. Seems like a pretty bright dude when he's got his head on straight, plus you can bring him on TV in a backstage role like Nash.
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Post by "Nature Boy" Ric Moranis on Sept 14, 2007 0:46:47 GMT -5
That Ultimate X structure from last time seemed so much higher than the ropes (well, a good three feet + with no give), it barely seemed worth watching the cool moves, for fear somebody was gonna get hurt. Aside from that, I can't believe they're doing it again this soon.
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