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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 9, 2009 15:04:07 GMT -5
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Post by mysterydriver on Nov 9, 2009 15:08:02 GMT -5
Yay, Pirates. Hire helpful people.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Nov 9, 2009 15:10:14 GMT -5
Since no one had tiem ot answer I'll ask again. So if the Sox get Gonzalez is Tek or Ortiz gone, you can't have both or is Youk part of the trade?
DH: Gonzalez, Martinez, Lowell, Ortiz 1B: Gonzalez, Martinez, Youk 3B: Lowell, Youk C: Martinez, Tek
Also I f***ing hate Wakefield, he's so inconsistent and he can't pitch in the Playoffs, I sure the Red Sox could find a better option, but they seem loyal to a fault.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2009 15:10:41 GMT -5
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Nov 9, 2009 15:15:19 GMT -5
Yay, Pirates. Hire helpful people. ... *Sigh* Hopefully the Angels pick some of the talent off that team... What?
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Post by BRV on Nov 9, 2009 15:21:55 GMT -5
How is Matt Holliday ranked ahead of Jason Bay? I can't think of one team that would prefer Holliday over Bay. Holliday's home/road splits while he was in Colorado were astronomical, his experiment in the American League was a colossal failure, and he was redeemed in St. Louis because nobody in their right mind would pitch to Albert Pujols. Bay, meanwhile, has hit for 30/100 in four of the last five seasons, he easily handled the transition in pressure from Pittsburgh to Boston and he seems to be improving defensively. If they don't make a move for Adrian Gonzalez, the Red Sox have to re-sign Bay. He's the right guy for their lineup, and if the past two playoff eliminations have told us anything, its that the Red Sox need a stronger offensive output.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 9, 2009 16:02:34 GMT -5
Rays exercised outfielder Carl Crawford's $10 million option for 2010.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 9, 2009 16:02:49 GMT -5
Red Sox declined catcher Jason Varitek's $5 million option for 2010.
Boston turned down the team option, but Varitek's player option still gives him the right to return at a $3 million salary and he seems all guaranteed to do so. He has five days to make a decision.
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Post by brettappedout (BLM) on Nov 9, 2009 16:06:05 GMT -5
Red Sox declined catcher Jason Varitek's $5 million option for 2010. Boston turned down the team option, but Varitek's player option still gives him the right to return at a $3 million salary and he seems all guaranteed to do so. He has five days to make a decision. I really hope he doesn't come back. I mean I talked about being loyal to a fault with Wake, Red Sox did that to the MAX! with Tek.
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Post by MGH on Nov 9, 2009 16:43:04 GMT -5
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Post by Insomniac on Nov 9, 2009 17:58:27 GMT -5
Since no one had tiem ot answer I'll ask again. So if the Sox get Gonzalez is Tek or Ortiz gone, you can't have both or is Youk part of the trade? DH: Gonzalez, Martinez, Lowell, Ortiz 1B: Gonzalez, Martinez, Youk 3B: Lowell, Youk C: Martinez, Tek Youkilis is not going to be part of any trade. He's one of the most productive 1B/3B in the game and has a VERY team-friendly contract. He's staying put. Basically, Gonzalez would be the 1B, Youkilis the 3B, and Ortiz/Lowell can platoon at DH and act as pinch-hitters. Besides, both Lowell and Ortiz are gone after 2010, so you need a young, long-term option for the future. Gonzalez would fit that description. Also I f***ing hate Wakefield, he's so inconsistent and he can't pitch in the Playoffs, I sure the Red Sox could find a better option, but they seem loyal to a fault. As a 5th starter, he puts up league-average numbers while earning a relatively tiny salary. He makes $4M a year, and will only earn that in the next two years if he stays healthy. If he gives you 20 starts of league average pitching as your #5 starter, all the while making under $4M, it's a bargain in this market. How is Matt Holliday ranked ahead of Jason Bay? I can't think of one team that would prefer Holliday over Bay. Holliday's home/road splits while he was in Colorado were astronomical, his experiment in the American League was a colossal failure, and he was redeemed in St. Louis because nobody in their right mind would pitch to Albert Pujols. Holliday is better than Bay. Better fielder (yes, even after that Game 2 epic failure), better base-runner, hits for a better average, and strikes out considerably less. Jason Bay is a future DH with the way he plays LF. As for his stint in the AL, his home games were in Oakland, a pitcher's park. After a terrible April, he hit .299/.400/.480 in 75 games with the Athletics. He had a rough first month adjusting to a new league. Same thing happened to Miguel Cabrera in Detroit in 2008, and I'd say he turned out pretty good.
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Post by The Line on Nov 9, 2009 19:02:11 GMT -5
That was interesting. Matsui on the M's would be Tremendous, especially since it was between them and the Yankees as to where he would originally have signed. But given his WS success, don't know if NYY will let him go so quickly and easily. Uribe honestly I don't know much about, but am more than willing to give him a shot. I'll be both sad and happy to see Adrian Beltre leave(I'd say there is slightly more than a zero % chance he'll be in Mariner blue next year), as he has been one of the more consistent 3B's Seattle has had in the last decade. But he is a shell of what we signed a few years ago, and his injuries are becoming more frequent, and more absurd. Signing a new, younger, cheaper, less injury prone 3b will be ideal. Branyan coming back was pretty much a given, considering how well he did last year. I just hope Seattle signs a capable back up 1B so that Branyan can sit out/play DH more often this year, as he completely broke down physically at the end of last season. Bedard leaving is basically the same as Beltre, but I really won't be sad to see him leave at all. Didn't come anywhere close to his potential(which really wasn't there to begin with. what a DUMB trade that was to get him). The new regime needs to dump Bedard, if for nothing else but to finally wash that bad-trade taste out of the Mariner fan's mouths. Thought he was really gonna become a solid middle/end of the rotation guy this year, but was WAY to injury prone. He is, in every sense of the word, unreliable. When he's healthy, he's inconsistent. When he's pitching consistently good, he is battling injury. Why Jack Wilson is even mentioned in the 'honorable mentions' section is baffling. It was reported that the only reason Seattle made the trade to Pittsburgh to get him was under the impression that he would sign a multi-year deal after this season. If such an agreement had not been made, Jack Z and Co. wouldn't have made the trade. This is even more of a given re-signing than Branyan.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 9, 2009 19:07:51 GMT -5
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley.
The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It seems a bit far-fetched to be taken seriously at this time.
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Post by andrew8798 on Nov 9, 2009 19:08:09 GMT -5
According to Joe Capozzi of the Palm Beach Post, "Indications are 2B Dan Uggla will get traded by the winter meetings next month."
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Post by EvilMasterBetty, Esq. on Nov 9, 2009 19:22:39 GMT -5
First, I don't see how the Twins will out-bid Philly if Philly wants Beltre bad.
Also, I wouldn't be surprised to see Philly in the running for a back end starting pitcher. Right now, there's only two starters I would count on to produce what they should (Lee & Blanton). Hamels has to prove he's a top of the rotation guy this year now that the pressure is on him. After that, Happ could easily turn into Kyle Kendrick 2.0 and fall apart and Moyer is about ready to collect social security (plus, I think the last pitch he threw might finally be crossing home plate), so there's no 5th starter. They could bring up Drabek or possibly start Kendrick again, but they may want to bring someone in to be a 3-4 pitcher so Happ can stay at 5 and take the pressure off of him.
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Post by Franchise on Nov 9, 2009 20:48:34 GMT -5
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley. The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It seems a bit far-fetched to be taken seriously at this time. I wouldn't be shocked if this happened. We've been looking to move Overbay, and almost dealt him to Arizona for Snyder. We took a look at Bradley last year as well. I personally am a little worried about his "temper tantrums" we'll say, but we could use a decent outfielder, especially with Wells being a question mark and Lind moving to first if this deal went down.
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Post by ani on Nov 9, 2009 21:15:30 GMT -5
According to Ken Rosenthal of FOXSports.com, the Cubs have discussed the framework of a three-team deal involving Milton Bradley. The idea is described as a longshot, but here's how it would play out: Bradley will go to the Blue Jays. Lyle Overbay will head to the Mets. And Luis Castillo will land with the Cubs. The teams involved have only discussed the deal's framework, and not in direct fashion, according to Rosenthal's sources. It seems a bit far-fetched to be taken seriously at this time. A thousand times yes!
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Post by Tyfo on Nov 9, 2009 22:28:13 GMT -5
I'll be honest, I've been waiting for this chance for about 7 years now. All I want out of the Rangers in free agency is when (and no, it's not an "if") we let Marlon Byrd walk away, we go and pick up Vlad Guerrero on a one year deal to replace him. Then he can't hurt us anymore!
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Nov 10, 2009 0:41:45 GMT -5
And as usual, the Indians are nowhere near the free agent discussions. Maybe they'll pick up a handful of garbage middle relievers and dump them all in midseason once their ERAs skyrocket beyond the 7.00 mark. Again.
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Nov 10, 2009 0:43:48 GMT -5
And as usual, the Indians are nowhere near the free agent discussions. Maybe they'll pick up a handful of garbage middle relievers and dump them all in midseason once their ERAs skyrocket beyond the 7.00 mark. Again. Yea I noticed that. Almost all the teams on that list are the high profile teams. But I guess mid level ones do not need to do any shopping. LOL
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