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Post by Citizen Zero on Jul 5, 2011 11:25:53 GMT -5
Oh my, some of these CM Punk fantasy bookings are just terrible. The idea that he'll win the title and defect to ROH, with an invasion looming are laughable. Punk's contract ends the night of Money in the Bank. I see this as no different than when Chris Jericho had one last storyline to go out on before he left in 2005. The people doubting Punk wouldn't be in the main event because he's leaving soon are just fooling themselves. I'm sure this is just a good faith move towards Punk to let him know he's welcome back whenever he's ready. There won't be an ROH invasion (and I love me some ROH), at best maybe Tyler Black will debut soon. If Punk beats Cena, then he'll either lose to the MITB winner that night, or the next night on RAW. Its a cool thought to have Punk take the title and go elsewhere, but to most of the audience, his Ring of Honor and NJPW as well as his Colt namedrop probably flew over their heads. Punk is leaving soon, this is just a great way to send him off. And yet there's no solid claim that Punk's leaving beyond flimsy dirtsheet rumors.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 12:07:29 GMT -5
I expect Cena to win but I wouldn't say it is guaranteed.
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Post by Brian Suntan on Jul 5, 2011 12:25:57 GMT -5
I have to say, Punk partnering with Vince would make little to no sense. How come? Vince has plenty of form for screwing people over, and generally just being evil for the sake of evil. Punk outright said last week that he wants to be on the posters and the programmes. Anyway, I have honestly no idea. I do think this thread should be brought up if Cena wins and Punk leaves immediately though. If that did happen, there would be a riot about how predictable the WWE is, yet the majority of people are predicting Punk. Genuinely, I think John Cena walking out with the belt is one of the least likely or predictable outcomes. I don't really think there is a predictable outcome. It's a great set-up.
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Post by Back to being Cenanuff on Jul 5, 2011 12:50:34 GMT -5
There will be a random event that will cause the PPV to start at 10:00. Punk/Cena is the last match of the night. Punk pins Cena in some heelish manner because God knows Cena can't ever be made to look weak, and as he's walking up the ramp, the clock strikes midnight, Vince's music hits, security shows up at every entrance, Vince strips Punk of the title since he's no longer under contract, and the MitB winner cashes in and takes the title. It'll probably be Mysterio, just to piss us off.
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Post by klapaucius on Jul 5, 2011 15:09:47 GMT -5
CM Punk beats Cena, McMahon's music begins to play, he appears and says he chose a special rival for Punk. and then ... the screen goes black and white, begins to play Hendrix ... "for life, for life" BAH GAWHD!! the immortal Hulk Hogan!!! who is accompanied by Diesel, Hall and Waltman, all four walk to the ring. McGuillicutty and Otunga try to stop them, but both receive an x-factor and a big boot. Hogan's leg drop CM Punk 1 .. .2 ... 3 and a new era has begun WAT CHA GONNA DO BROTHER.
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Post by gnr123 on Jul 5, 2011 15:11:34 GMT -5
CM Punk beats Cena, McMahon's music begins to play, he appears and says he chose a special rival for Punk. and then ... the screen goes black and white, begins to play Hendrix ... "for life, for life" BAH GAWHD!! the immortal Hulk Hogan!!! who is accompanied by Diesel, Hall and Waltman, all four walk to the ring. McGuillicutty and Otunga try to stop them, but both receive an x-factor and a big boot. Hogan's leg drop CM Punk 1 .. .2 ... 3 and a new era has begun WAT CHA GONNA DO BROTHER. Please for the love of God no.
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Post by Wolf Hurricane on Jul 5, 2011 15:16:04 GMT -5
CM Punk beats Cena, McMahon's music begins to play, he appears and says he chose a special rival for Punk. and then ... the screen goes black and white, begins to play Hendrix ... "for life, for life" BAH GAWHD!! the immortal Hulk Hogan!!! who is accompanied by Diesel, Hall and Waltman, all four walk to the ring. McGuillicutty and Otunga try to stop them, but both receive an x-factor and a big boot. Hogan's leg drop CM Punk 1 .. .2 ... 3 and a new era has begun WAT CHA GONNA DO BROTHER. This isn't WCW TNA Impact Wrestling... no matter how much you want it to be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2011 15:18:46 GMT -5
CM Punk beats Cena, McMahon's music begins to play, he appears and says he chose a special rival for Punk. and then ... the screen goes black and white, begins to play Hendrix ... "for life, for life" BAH GAWHD!! the immortal Hulk Hogan!!! who is accompanied by Diesel, Hall and Waltman, all four walk to the ring. McGuillicutty and Otunga try to stop them, but both receive an x-factor and a big boot. Hogan's leg drop CM Punk 1 .. .2 ... 3 and a new era has begun WAT CHA GONNA DO BROTHER. I'm not gonna lie, I laughed out loud reading this. If this happened then I'd be in tears from laughter and never forget the night.
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Post by mrjl on Jul 5, 2011 15:55:12 GMT -5
Oh my, some of these CM Punk fantasy bookings are just terrible. The idea that he'll win the title and defect to ROH, with an invasion looming are laughable. Punk's contract ends the night of Money in the Bank. I see this as no different than when Chris Jericho had one last storyline to go out on before he left in 2005. The people doubting Punk wouldn't be in the main event because he's leaving soon are just fooling themselves. I'm sure this is just a good faith move towards Punk to let him know he's welcome back whenever he's ready. There won't be an ROH invasion (and I love me some ROH), at best maybe Tyler Black will debut soon. If Punk beats Cena, then he'll either lose to the MITB winner that night, or the next night on RAW. Its a cool thought to have Punk take the title and go elsewhere, but to most of the audience, his Ring of Honor and NJPW as well as his Colt namedrop probably flew over their heads. Punk is leaving soon, this is just a great way to send him off. And yet there's no solid claim that Punk's leaving beyond flimsy dirtsheet rumors. I believe his contract running out is a fact. When your contract is running out and there has been no announcement of an extension then figuring someone is leaving is the logical thing to do
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Post by wcw on Jul 5, 2011 16:40:47 GMT -5
Punk wins, BUT the MITB winner (Lets say Alberto Del Rio) comes out and cashes in the opportunity and wins the title from Punk.
Cena and McMahon feud over him being fired. Del Rio takes the title and aligns himself with McMahon as the guy who saved the WWE title.
Cena won't turn heel (He has a mega match with the Rock at Mania), and Punk won't walk away with the title. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just hopeful.
Also there is a possibility Cena just wins.
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Post by joshhtx on Jul 5, 2011 16:46:08 GMT -5
Punk wins, BUT the MITB winner (Lets say Alberto Del Rio) comes out and cashes in the opportunity and wins the title from Punk. Did Vince say if Cena is fired if he loses or if Punk leaves as champ? Regardless, Vince could just say he's keeping Cena around and since Punk didn't leave as champ, no harm, no foul. After the way the Nexus angle was fumbled last summer, I can't see them not fumble this too. Sad face.
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Post by Citizen Zero on Jul 5, 2011 17:35:29 GMT -5
I have to say, Punk partnering with Vince would make little to no sense. How come? Vince has plenty of form for screwing people over, and generally just being evil for the sake of evil. Punk outright said last week that he wants to be on the posters and the programmes. Anyway, I have honestly no idea. I do think this thread should be brought up if Cena wins and Punk leaves immediately though. If that did happen, there would be a riot about how predictable the WWE is, yet the majority of people are predicting Punk. Genuinely, I think John Cena walking out with the belt is one of the least likely or predictable outcomes. I don't really think there is a predictable outcome. It's a great set-up. It makes no sense because a) everything about Punk screams the opposite of 'corporate'. I'm expected to swallow that Vince wants a tattooed, scrawny (I like the guy but you have to admit he's got a very not-standard physique) straight-edge punk as his corporate champion? b)Punk just made an extended speech where he slagged Vince, his workers, his company, and even his family. I mean c'mon. If anything Cena'd be the better fit to turn heel and become Vince's new 'corporate' champion...but quite frankly Cena's unlikely to turn heel anytime soon, if ever.
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Post by avenger on Jul 5, 2011 18:12:25 GMT -5
Next week Alberto Del Rio is given his number one contender match against Cena, and loses.
At Money In The Bank, Punk wins the title, and R-Truth wins the Raw briefcase.
The next night on Raw. Cena gets fired (so that he can take time off to heal his reported injuries to be fresh for Wrestlemania). Punk signs a weekly contract for the summer (in kayfabe just to play with Vince) claiming that no-one can beat him, because he is the best. Punk then claims he's beaten Kofi before, Alberto Del Rio couldn't beat the man that Punk beat, Miz has had thousands of title shots this year, and he's beaten Rey twice in the last two months. There's no-one left for him to defend against. Big Show's music hits - and he challenges Punk for the title as that Raw's main event. Come the main event, the Big Show goes mental, but Mark Henry interferes and Punk steals the win, but he's been heavily beaten up.
"The Truth Will Set You Free". R-Truth cashes in his briefcase. The match starts, and Punk low blows the referee. Truth wins via DQ (or a returning John Morrison interferes), but the MITB contract has no rematch clause for the briefcase holder.(which pushes R-Truth's conpiracy theories) and Raw goes off air.
The following week, Punk repeats his claim and says that as there is no-one left, he's leaving with the belt. Evan Bourne comes out. Punk laughs away his challenge, but the GM gives Bourne the shot. Punk wins after a ten minute match, and at the end of the match, repeats his claim that he is leaving, and he starts singing "NA NA NA NA, NA NA NA NA, HEY HEY HEY GOODBYE!"
"It's time to play the game"
Triple H v CM Punk at Summerslam.
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Post by Taupy on Jul 5, 2011 18:18:24 GMT -5
I really think it will end up with Corporate Punk siding with Vince. Punk is complaining that he is not promoted enough, Cena don't follow everything that Vince is saying. So Vince could end up promising to Punk to be the new poster boy of the company if he sides with him.
The last time Cena was fired, Punk was complaining that he had no right to be there. This time he will probably be even more pissed if he still show up.
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Post by The Ichi on Jul 5, 2011 18:19:51 GMT -5
Corporate Machine Punk.
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Post by Cronant on Jul 5, 2011 18:42:01 GMT -5
It makes no sense because a) everything about Punk screams the opposite of 'corporate'. Thats why it'd be so awesome. How do people not get this? The guy IS the opposite of that, face or heel, that never changes. And thats partially why he has his fanbase. So you throw it back and have him sell out. Especially since his promo was "I'm not on the cups...etc", that shows that on some level he DOES want that. Its in the same line as Jericho dropping the rock star look for the suits. Thats not exactly who he is, and thats why he got heat.
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Post by DSR on Jul 6, 2011 3:58:38 GMT -5
This isn't WCW TNA Impact Wrestling a swimming pool... no matter how much you want it to be. McGillicutty'd.
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Post by BorneAgain on Jul 6, 2011 5:02:00 GMT -5
This is remarkably unlikely to happen, and a decent amount of people would dislike it... but what if Cena and Punk ended up as a babyface alliance against Vince? [Keep in mind this is more or less dependent on Punk not leaving now]
Sounds crazy, but both Punk and Cena are men fighting for their own particular values. Punk has outright admitted that he doesn't even hate him, and Cena's essentially putting his job on the line to protect Punk's right to free speech. I do believe there's potential in a duo with extremely different philosophies, but a common belief that there are problems with the WWE.
Moreover, both guys are ones who are passionate about the business and dedicate their lives to it. I don't believe its too big a stretch to see the two disliking what Vince is doing with the WWE and reluctantly agreeing to do something about it together.
Take into account they're recent comments on the Rock, and it gets even more interesting. Both guys have their own reasons for not caring for him, specifically in the fact that while they live for the business, Rock appears to just want the spotlight and the money. Throw in Vince being a hypocrite about people walking out, but kissing the Rock's ass because he'll earn money for him and it gets even better. I'm not saying we'll be seeing Cena/Punk vs. Rock/Vince soon, but its fascinating to think about it.
And in terms of dynamic, it would be complimentary. Punk starts gaining some of Cena's sense of honor while John gets some of Punk's harder edge. Punk still thinks he's better than him, and Cena certainly believes that his ally is an obnoxious manipulative ass, but they both have a common goal.
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Post by Ryushinku on Jul 6, 2011 5:22:48 GMT -5
At the moment, I'm leaning towards Punk winning but getting immediately MITB'd to lose the title.
I have to admit they have put enough doubt into my mind over the way they go with this. Possibly the thing getting the least airtime of all is that Cena could win but get MITB'd himself as well, it's not like a Cena beating Punk necessarily means he walks out as champ himself.
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Post by nonrev on Jul 6, 2011 7:06:20 GMT -5
And yet there's no solid claim that Punk's leaving beyond flimsy dirtsheet rumors. Flimsy Dirtsheet rumor{Spoiler}A WWE spokesman told GLAAD that C.M. Punk is legitimately leaving the company on July 18. A story on OpposingViews.com notes that the spokesman told GLAAD that "this departure is not part of a storyline. He is contractually leaving the organization."
The story also notes that GLAAD provided training to members of WWE's editorial staff and writing team back in May, and there are discussions to hold similar training with the wrestlers. To read the full story, visit OpposingViews.com.
Powell's POV: It's worth noting that the story noted that Punk's deal "will not be immediately renewed." Obviously, they are keeping the door open, and this plays into speculation that he will be taking a hiatus once his contract expires. Given WWE's official statement, I would be surprised if Punk re-signed before his deal expires after the Money in the Bank pay-per-view.
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