|
Post by Mr. Self-Destruct on Jul 10, 2012 2:30:31 GMT -5
I prefer The Downward Spiral, The Fragile, and With Teeth over Year Zero. If I HAD to choose my favorite...I'd say With Teeth, only because it holds a lot of sentimental value, as it came out towards the end of my deployment to Iraq and sort of became the "Soundtrack" to that time in my life. Much like the "And All That Could Have Been" tracks were the first parts soundtrack. For me, "The Fragile" has too much filler, "With Teeth" doesn't have a unifying theme, and "the Downward Spiral" ages a bit. I prefer "Year Zero" because I love the world building, the straightforwardness of some of the songs, and it feels like a more well rounded album. However, I'm a massive fan, saw them in concert during "The Fragility" tour, and love all of Reznor's albums. The political theme of Year Zero is what turns me off of that album. I have very little interest in anything of that nature. Even The Slip is more enjoyable, though weaker songlist, just because it's got no undertones of that nature. But yeah, Nine Inch Nails is far and away my favorite musical anything. Obviously, considering my name on here.
|
|
Futureraven: Beelzebruv
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
The Ultimate Arbiter of Right And Wrong
Spent half my life here, God help me
Posts: 15,080
Member is Online
|
Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jul 10, 2012 7:28:55 GMT -5
I'd say U2 around the year 2000, in the 90s, they played with their sound, made fun of big overblown productions and pretentious rock stars.
Then it doesn't sell as well so they decide to BE overblown rock stars, Bono started wearing sunglasses all the time to MAKE FUN of people who do that.
|
|
|
Post by wildojinx on Jul 10, 2012 8:21:03 GMT -5
Offspring. Everything up through Ixnay was excellent, but then they got obsessed with releasing novelty singles like Pretty Fly for a White Guy and Original Prankster and Hit That. They finally tried to go back to a somewhat more serious sound with Rise and Fall, but by then, a lot of the fanbase had abandoned them, and it was hard to get new fans.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2012 0:59:47 GMT -5
For me, "The Fragile" has too much filler, "With Teeth" doesn't have a unifying theme, and "the Downward Spiral" ages a bit. I prefer "Year Zero" because I love the world building, the straightforwardness of some of the songs, and it feels like a more well rounded album. However, I'm a massive fan, saw them in concert during "The Fragility" tour, and love all of Reznor's albums. The political theme of Year Zero is what turns me off of that album. I have very little interest in anything of that nature. I can understand that, yeah. I'm pretty politically neutral, so it didn't bother me. It has a compelling story though, with that damn giant hand and the sniper.
|
|
Ryanar
Samurai Cop
Posts: 2,429
|
Post by Ryanar on Jul 11, 2012 4:18:00 GMT -5
Jurassic 5 in my opinion jumped the shark with "Feedback." The whole rapping in unison to classic beats was getting old, so they decided to rap in unison to modern beats and it just didn't sound organic at all. It sounded like they went mainstream. Feedback is still a great album, its just that they were treading water by the time Power in Numbers rolled around. They needed a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately the group split after Feedback.
Red Hot Chili Peppers jumped after Californication. Its not their best work, and i really dont get the hype over By The Way. Its all just bland. And it surprises me that One Hot Minute is regarded as "Meh" and average. Dave Navarro added so much color to the band, its not even funny how awesome they sounded together. Dave brought this braggart guitar approach to the fold and it meshed for the better. After that it took them a decade to make an interesting album, which was "Im With You." And its funny because that is also regarded as "Meh" and Average.
|
|
|
Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Jul 12, 2012 17:29:52 GMT -5
I'd say U2 around the year 2000, in the 90s, they played with their sound, made fun of big overblown productions and pretentious rock stars. ...which is precisely why Pop didn't suck. It wasn't exactly the greatest thing they ever did, but they were experimenting with their sound and going even further in a dance/electronic direction than they did with past albums. Maybe it didn't work as well as, say, Achtung Baby or Zooropa, but at least they were trying. Now they're just cashing checks. Then it doesn't sell as well so they decide to BE overblown rock stars, Bono started wearing sunglasses all the time to MAKE FUN of people who do that. I thought he said he did it because of his extremely sensitive eyes. If he doesn't wear sunglasses, a camera flash will bother him all day or something like that. Red Hot Chili Peppers jumped after Californication. Its not their best work, and i really dont get the hype over By The Way. Its all just bland. And it surprises me that One Hot Minute is regarded as "Meh" and average. Dave Navarro added so much color to the band, its not even funny how awesome they sounded together. Dave brought this braggart guitar approach to the fold and it meshed for the better. After that it took them a decade to make an interesting album, which was "Im With You." And its funny because that is also regarded as "Meh" and Average. THANK YOU. If you slapped a different band name on One Hot Minute, I can GUARANTEE you it wouldn't be reviled. People expected another Blood Sugar Sex Magik, and it wasn't that, because that's just not what Dave Navarro does. It's a different entity entirely, and (if you ask me) a pretty freakin' good one, but people can't see past that. Then they brought back John Frusciante and got PAID, and everyone just went back to assuming RHCP had to sound like RHCP, the band included.
|
|
StuntGranny®
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
Not Actually a Granny
Posts: 16,099
|
Post by StuntGranny® on Jul 12, 2012 17:40:04 GMT -5
I don't get why Metallica would be included in this. They're still one of the, if no the, biggest bands on the planet.
Cryptopsy would be a very nice choice, Morbid Angel would be even better. Their last album was one of the worst things I've heard.
I like their old stuff, but Megadeth would be on that list. Dave Mustaine's insanity jumped the shark for them.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2012 17:49:35 GMT -5
I'd say U2 around the year 2000, in the 90s, they played with their sound, made fun of big overblown productions and pretentious rock stars. Then it doesn't sell as well so they decide to BE overblown rock stars, Bono started wearing sunglasses all the time to MAKE FUN of people who do that. Bono wears sunglasses because he and I share a condition called photophobia, also known as oversensitive eyes. For people with it, enduring things like camera flashes and even sunlight is like total hell.
|
|
|
Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Jul 12, 2012 18:48:26 GMT -5
Jurassic 5 in my opinion jumped the shark with "Feedback." The whole rapping in unison to classic beats was getting old, so they decided to rap in unison to modern beats and it just didn't sound organic at all. It sounded like they went mainstream. Feedback is still a great album, its just that they were treading water by the time Power in Numbers rolled around. They needed a breath of fresh air. Unfortunately the group split after Feedback. Red Hot Chili Peppers jumped after Californication. Its not their best work, and i really dont get the hype over By The Way. Its all just bland. And it surprises me that One Hot Minute is regarded as "Meh" and average. Dave Navarro added so much color to the band, its not even funny how awesome they sounded together. Dave brought this braggart guitar approach to the fold and it meshed for the better. After that it took them a decade to make an interesting album, which was "Im With You." And its funny because that is also regarded as "Meh" and Average. I definitely agree about RHCP, although I do enjoy a few songs post 'One Hot Minute'. But 'Californication', aside from 'Scar Tissue', was utter crap and I couldnt' get into it at all. I thought 'By the Way' was decent, but not all that great. It does have a great song though ('On Mercury').
|
|
|
Post by King Boo on Jul 12, 2012 19:37:01 GMT -5
Red Hot Chili Peppers jumped after Californication. Its not their best work, and i really dont get the hype over By The Way. Its all just bland. And it surprises me that One Hot Minute is regarded as "Meh" and average. Dave Navarro added so much color to the band, its not even funny how awesome they sounded together. Dave brought this braggart guitar approach to the fold and it meshed for the better. After that it took them a decade to make an interesting album, which was "Im With You." And its funny because that is also regarded as "Meh" and Average. THANK YOU. If you slapped a different band name on One Hot Minute, I can GUARANTEE you it wouldn't be reviled. People expected another Blood Sugar Sex Magik, and it wasn't that, because that's just not what Dave Navarro does. It's a different entity entirely, and (if you ask me) a pretty freakin' good one, but people can't see past that. Then they brought back John Frusciante and got PAID, and everyone just went back to assuming RHCP had to sound like RHCP, the band included. I love One Hot Minute and I totally agree with what both of you have said regarding that album. There are some awesome songs on it - some of my all time favorite RHCP songs. The crap that album gets is a little unfair sometimes. I do love By The Way though. After that, I still like RHCP well enough, but I won't argue it's their greatest material. I have I'm With You but I haven't listened to it enough to pass judgment.
|
|
skulldouggory
Unicron
Needs More Shirtless Barry Windham
Posts: 2,535
|
Post by skulldouggory on Jul 13, 2012 12:21:12 GMT -5
when i heard that Rammsteins new single was going to be an adults only clip full of hardcore pornography, i though that they had lost it and were trying to hard to be out there/controversial again.
I put off buying the record because of that, but when i did i heard their best record since sehnsucht.
|
|
Futureraven: Beelzebruv
Bill S. Preston, Esq.
The Ultimate Arbiter of Right And Wrong
Spent half my life here, God help me
Posts: 15,080
Member is Online
|
Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jul 13, 2012 16:55:19 GMT -5
I'd say U2 around the year 2000, in the 90s, they played with their sound, made fun of big overblown productions and pretentious rock stars. Then it doesn't sell as well so they decide to BE overblown rock stars, Bono started wearing sunglasses all the time to MAKE FUN of people who do that. Bono wears sunglasses because he and I share a condition called photophobia, also known as oversensitive eyes. For people with it, enduring things like camera flashes and even sunlight is like total hell. Ok my mistake, I heard that, but I found it odd that up until Zooropa he didn't wear them, and since then has worn some doucetastic ones. I retract that part, but I stand by the stylistic change going from parody and experimentation to bland AOR.
|
|
|
Post by bitteroldman on Jul 13, 2012 17:52:42 GMT -5
I loved Rush at one point, 2112 is still one of my favorite albums. Went out and bought Hemispheres, listened to it one time and threw the album in the trash. I haven't bought a Rush album since.
|
|
ZERO
Don Corleone
Posts: 1,934
|
Post by ZERO on Jul 14, 2012 14:05:19 GMT -5
This seems to happen whenever Primal Scream decide they wanna be the Rolling Stones. Then they realise this and release something good.
|
|
vm88
Samurai Cop
Posts: 2,252
|
Post by vm88 on Jul 14, 2012 17:20:49 GMT -5
I don't get why Metallica would be included in this. They're still one of the, if no the, biggest bands on the planet. I probably would have said Metallica right around the time that they released the "Lulu" album with Lou Reed. That album was horrible. Metallica's music does not mix very well with Lou Reed's vocals, and they created a very messy album. At least Metallica have seemed to move on from that atrocity by continuing to put on solid shows like that "Orion Music and More Festival" a few weeks back. I think Limp Bizkit jumped the shark when that "Results May Vary" album came out. IMO, their career hasn't recovered since then. By the time Wes Borland re-joined the band and they recorded "The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1)," people didn't care for them anymore. Hell, even "Gold Cobra", their latest album, didn't do very well, and people moved away from the Nu-Metal genre.
|
|
|
Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 14, 2012 17:25:56 GMT -5
I dunno, the Scream haven't really released a good album in twelve years now. Beautiful Future was terrible.
|
|
|
Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Jul 15, 2012 16:55:31 GMT -5
I dunno, the Scream haven't really released a good album in twelve years now. Beautiful Future was terrible. Someone needs to beat them over the head with copies of Evil Heat and XTRMNTR until they put out more of THAT and less... uh, whatever the crap they call their attempts to be the Rolling Stones.
|
|
|
Post by Baldobomb-22-OH-MAN!!! on Jul 15, 2012 18:27:40 GMT -5
I don't get why Metallica would be included in this. They're still one of the, if no the, biggest bands on the planet. I probably would have said Metallica right around the time that they released the "Lulu" album with Lou Reed. That album was horrible. Metallica's music does not mix very well with Lou Reed's vocals, and they created a very messy album. At least Metallica have seemed to move on from that atrocity by continuing to put on solid shows like that "Orion Music and More Festival" a few weeks back. I think Limp Bizkit jumped the shark when that "Results May Vary" album came out. IMO, their career hasn't recovered since then. By the time Wes Borland re-joined the band and they recorded "The Unquestionable Truth (Part 1)," people didn't care for them anymore. Hell, even "Gold Cobra", their latest album, didn't do very well, and people moved away from the Nu-Metal genre. if anything Metallica jumped the shark with Load, Reload and the godawful St. Anger. they didn't really recover until Death Magnetic, and even that was just alright. Lulu was like some other kind of horrible though. I don't think that's Metallica's fault so much as people expecting a Metallica record and getting terrible performance art instead. you can't really blame Metallica for that, they even said it shouldn't be thought oof as a Metallica record.
|
|
|
Post by salsashark on Jul 15, 2012 20:37:57 GMT -5
Weird Al - there are scattered good ones, like White and Nerdy and Perform this Way, but for the most part I think he just doesn't capture anywhere near the quality of his earlier work. I'm of the mind though that it is mostly because the music he parodies has taken such a dip in quality. One might say everything else jumped the shark. Weird Al felt like he jumped for me from the start. I don't really get the value of dumb song parodies. They're like the audio equivalent of the Scary Movie series or something that's going to look even more dumb and dated past what it already is.
|
|
|
Post by salsashark on Jul 15, 2012 21:07:52 GMT -5
Offspring. Everything up through Ixnay was excellent, but then they got obsessed with releasing novelty singles like Pretty Fly for a White Guy and Original Prankster and Hit That. They finally tried to go back to a somewhat more serious sound with Rise and Fall, but by then, a lot of the fanbase had abandoned them, and it was hard to get new fans. Excellent choice. The single off the new record is disasterously bad. I used to love that band, but man, what a downward slide.
|
|