Fiddleford H. McGucket
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Sept 20, 2014 15:54:58 GMT -5
I want TNA as we know it now to die. I want the carny bullshit, the non-payment of talent, and the constant "Fecal Adhesion Testing" style of booking to die. But....I don't REALLY want the company to die. I've been thinking on this, and I don't. I don't want the people that really tried, that put up with TNA's BS because that's the "Best they could do" to be out of the industry. I don't want the fans...the die-hards, the Old-School NWA fans, the WCW holdouts, and even the King19XXes to leave. I don't want to look out and see the only national wrestling company that people know of is WWE. I LOVE the indies......but the "big" ones, are all so far from me. Even those in my OWN STATE don't do shows within "Driving distance" (i.e if I found out about a show day of, I could get there, be back, and get enough sleep to justify it). I literally LIVE less than 2 hours from "Flair Country" and all the companies are further out. My point? TNA did shows at LJVM Colosseum. They did "smaller Venues". Venues that were technically decently sized cities, but weren't your "Charlotte" or even "Greensboro". I want a "Southern" wrestling company. I want one that is more technically minded, maybe not as "flashy" as WWE, but the people have personality and good in-ring skill. Where the matches can deviate from the "Bump'n'feed" WWE style. I want a wrestling company that isn't afraid to BE one...... {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Hell.....I WANT Chikara to go national, but that's a pipe-dream at the moment. It's not that I WANT TNA to die.....it NEEDS to die. Too many people have taken too much from it, infected it with a myriad of bad ideas and allowed them to fester from the inside out. Perhaps.....perhaps whatever comes after it will be better....because brothers and sisters......I seriously don't see how it can be worse
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Post by creepytennis on Sept 20, 2014 16:20:54 GMT -5
I haven't been insulting to anyone. The problem is that it will take many years for another promotion to get to the same level as TNA, if that even happens at all. It took TNA many years to get national weekly TV, and wrestling was actually hotter then. The only argument for TNA folding being a good thing is the fictional idea that another, better promotion will immediately take its place. My position, and I think I said this before, is that is wishful thinking. It's not a valid argument because if this new promotion existed or was about to exist, it would already be putting TNA out of business. It would be far better for wrestling if TNA stays in business and improves. It's improved a lot in the last few months. If TNA improved further, and kept improving, would you guys start saying you enjoyed it and wanted it to stay in business? Maybe you claim you would, but what I've seen of the IWC over the past decade makes me think not. Even during what is now seen as TNA's golden age, the IWC were wishing it out of business. You called me a "hater" and said I wasn't a real wrestling fan. You also said I had "blinkers" on. I'm not sure what you meant by that since I think "blinkers" means something else in the UK then it does in the US, but it comes off as you meaning it as an insult. Also, like my ex-girlfriend, you keep answering questions I'm not asking and ignoring the question I am asking. I've asked you one question (granted I've asked it in multiple different ways), and it's simply this - do you think there comes a point where everything would not just better off wiping the slate clean and starting over from scratch? I'm not personally insulting you. I don't know you as a person. I just feel that somebody wanting a wrestling company to die calls their fandom into question. That's not meant to be personal - it's my reaction to the topic of the thread, and many of the posts on it. To answer your question - I think the slate can be wiped clean without the company closing down. Companies change their creative direction drastically all the time without closing down. The problem with the company closing down, as I've now said many times, is the loss of the infrastructure and the amount of time it would take for another nationwide alternative to Stamford to appear. If the question was: "Do you want TNA to be instantly replaced with a much better company?", my answer would be: absolutely. But in my opinion that's not what would happen.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 20, 2014 16:37:12 GMT -5
The slate can't be wiped clean. The name and brand is too far gone for people to forget the stigma connected to it. This isn't like Marlboro changing the name to hope folks forget they sell cigarettes.
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Post by creepytennis on Sept 20, 2014 16:43:04 GMT -5
The slate can't be wiped clean. The name and brand is too far gone for people to forget the stigma connected to it. This isn't like Marlboro changing the name to hope folks forget they sell cigarettes. Firstly, I don't think the brand is damaged outside the IWC. Casual wrestling fans and kids barely know TNA exists. Secondly, just out of interest, if TNA changed its name, then would you not want it to fold? Which part of the operation in particular are you desperate to see fail?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Sept 20, 2014 16:52:27 GMT -5
The slate can't be wiped clean. The name and brand is too far gone for people to forget the stigma connected to it. This isn't like Marlboro changing the name to hope folks forget they sell cigarettes. Firstly, I don't think the brand is damaged outside the IWC. Casual wrestling fans and kids barely know TNA exists. Secondly, just out of interest, if TNA changed its name, then would you not want it to fold? Which part of the operation in particular are you desperate to see fail? TNA's core audience is the IWC. Casuals could care less about the company. And the IWC isn't just smarks anymore. It's anyone with internet connection whose talking about pro wrestling. Every time TNA tries for publicity, the mainstream treats it like an afterthought. You can call shit "caviar" but it is still shit. TNA is ran by people who are not even qualified to run a lemonade stand. At a couple of points, I was quite supportive of TNA even with the regular f*** ups they did. Now I rather they just quit because they used up all their chances at redemption by keep making the same mistakes. Every time they said, we learned from our mistakes and this time is it going to be different, they go right back and do the same damn thing. Every single time.
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Post by bluemeii on Sept 20, 2014 16:58:31 GMT -5
The slate can't be wiped clean. The name and brand is too far gone for people to forget the stigma connected to it. This isn't like Marlboro changing the name to hope folks forget they sell cigarettes. Firstly, I don't think the brand is damaged outside the IWC. Casual wrestling fans and kids barely know TNA exists. Secondly, just out of interest, if TNA changed its name, then would you not want it to fold? Which part of the operation in particular are you desperate to see fail? Sorry the brand is damaged beyond repair. Look at the demo's and look at the ratings. Sixty percent or more of TNA's weekly audience falls OUTSIDE the 18-49 year old demographic. This is not a once in a while thing, this is a consistent pattern. Do you really think it's a bunch of 50 year olds watching impact every week? No it's kids who think they are watching something edgy and mature, while those that TNA are actually aiming the programming at sit back and laugh at how terrible it is. People know TNA exist. You don't need to be part of this mythical IWC to know about it. The problem is people know about it, they just don't care. They had their biggest audience tuning in to see Hulk Hogan debut. The quarter hour numbers were close to 3 million people for it. As the show went on more and more people got to "sample" TNA, didn't like how it tasted, and turned it off.
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Post by creepytennis on Sept 20, 2014 17:02:36 GMT -5
Firstly, I don't think the brand is damaged outside the IWC. Casual wrestling fans and kids barely know TNA exists. Secondly, just out of interest, if TNA changed its name, then would you not want it to fold? Which part of the operation in particular are you desperate to see fail? TNA's core audience is the IWC. Casuals could care less about the company. And the IWC isn't just smarks anymore. It's anyone with internet connection whose talking about pro wrestling. Every time TNA tries for publicity, the mainstream treats it like an afterthought. You can call shit "caviar" but it is still shit. TNA is ran by people who are not even qualified to run a lemonade stand. At a couple of points, I was quite supportive of TNA even with the regular f*** ups they did. Now I rather they just quit because they used up all their chances at redemption by keep making the same mistakes. Every time they said, we learned from our mistakes and this time is it going to be different, they go right back and do the same damn thing. Every single time. So you agree with me that non-hardcore wrestling fans have barely heard of TNA. So then, as I said, the brand isn't really the problem. So what do you want to change? The management? Large parts of that have actually changed a few times already, but okay. What if TNA got all new creative staff, got a new name, got all new management? Would you then not want it to close down? Or is the whole point of the IWC's hate towards TNA about them being proved right and getting their way, even if it damages the industry as a whole in the process?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Sept 20, 2014 17:16:19 GMT -5
Yeah casuals barely know of TNA's existence, in airports people kept asking Kurt and RVD why they retired, they don't know there's a show called impact.
The management is never gonna change, Toby Keith and Jarrett tried to buy the company, Dixie's dad wanted them to keep Dixie around, they didn't wanted her so the deal went south.
Now Dixie wouldn't be a problem if she was a silent boss and left someone capable in charge, but she wants to run the company and be a tv character. She thinks she knows wrestling but she don't.
If there was a change in management TNA would have a shot, but Dixie would rather kill the company than have someone else run it.
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Post by fw91 on Sept 20, 2014 17:22:30 GMT -5
honestly, I never really followed TNA. But I liked their talent pool, and how it gave a place for talented released wwe guys a decent place to go. But with NXT kicking ass, it has become a wasteland/after thought. Therefore I'm indifferent on the whole thing
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Post by creepytennis on Sept 20, 2014 17:24:30 GMT -5
Firstly, I don't think the brand is damaged outside the IWC. Casual wrestling fans and kids barely know TNA exists. Secondly, just out of interest, if TNA changed its name, then would you not want it to fold? Which part of the operation in particular are you desperate to see fail? Sorry the brand is damaged beyond repair. Look at the demo's and look at the ratings. Sixty percent or more of TNA's weekly audience falls OUTSIDE the 18-49 year old demographic. This is not a once in a while thing, this is a consistent pattern. Do you really think it's a bunch of 50 year olds watching impact every week? No it's kids who think they are watching something edgy and mature, while those that TNA are actually aiming the programming at sit back and laugh at how terrible it is. People know TNA exist. You don't need to be part of this mythical IWC to know about it. The problem is people know about it, they just don't care. They had their biggest audience tuning in to see Hulk Hogan debut. The quarter hour numbers were close to 3 million people for it. As the show went on more and more people got to "sample" TNA, didn't like how it tasted, and turned it off. EDIT: Sorry, misread part of your post! Your post is a pretty selective interpretation of events. Of course Hogan's debut popped a rating which would never be sustainable. 60% outside 18-49 doesn't make it exclusively kids watching. That's nearly half inside 18-49! It's just the old IWC narrative where we should all give up on TNA for reason x, y or z depending on the year. But where's this mythical perfect wrestling company which is going to replace it? Until it comes along, I welcome the existance of TNA, warts and all, because without it North American national wrestling *is* WWE, and nothing else.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 17:28:17 GMT -5
Sorry the brand is damaged beyond repair. Look at the demo's and look at the ratings. Sixty percent or more of TNA's weekly audience falls OUTSIDE the 18-49 year old demographic. This is not a once in a while thing, this is a consistent pattern. Do you really think it's a bunch of 50 year olds watching impact every week? No it's kids who think they are watching something edgy and mature, while those that TNA are actually aiming the programming at sit back and laugh at how terrible it is. People know TNA exist. You don't need to be part of this mythical IWC to know about it. The problem is people know about it, they just don't care. They had their biggest audience tuning in to see Hulk Hogan debut. The quarter hour numbers were close to 3 million people for it. As the show went on more and more people got to "sample" TNA, didn't like how it tasted, and turned it off. My brain is damaged beyond repair? And I'm the one insulting people on this thread? Your post is a pretty selective interpretation of events. Of course Hogan's debut popped a rating which would never be sustainable. 60% outside 18-49 doesn't make it exclusively kids watching. That's nearly half inside 18-49! It's just the old IWC narrative where we should all give up on TNA for reason x, y or z depending on the year. But where's this mythical perfect wrestling company which is going to replace it? Until it comes along, I welcome the existance of TNA, warts and all, because without it North American national wrestling *is* WWE, and nothing else. Wait, so with TNA, North American wresting isn't WWE and nothing else? I guess maybe in the literal sense.
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Post by creepytennis on Sept 20, 2014 17:38:59 GMT -5
Wait, so with TNA, North American wresting isn't WWE and nothing else? I guess maybe in the literal sense. The one thing I would like more than anything else is a competitor to WWE on their level. I don't care if it's TNA or not. But if TNA fold we're instantly three to five years further away from that happening (if it's even possible), minimum.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 17:42:41 GMT -5
Wait, so with TNA, North American wresting isn't WWE and nothing else? I guess maybe in the literal sense. The one thing I would like more than anything else is a competitor to WWE on their level. I don't care if it's TNA or not. But if TNA fold we're instantly three to five years further away from that happening (if it's even possible), minimum. It's probably not going to be TNA. Not with who they have running their company and the way they're running their company. Miracles can happen, but I'm not seeing it with TNA.
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Post by bluemeii on Sept 20, 2014 17:45:19 GMT -5
Sorry the brand is damaged beyond repair. Look at the demo's and look at the ratings. Sixty percent or more of TNA's weekly audience falls OUTSIDE the 18-49 year old demographic. This is not a once in a while thing, this is a consistent pattern. Do you really think it's a bunch of 50 year olds watching impact every week? No it's kids who think they are watching something edgy and mature, while those that TNA are actually aiming the programming at sit back and laugh at how terrible it is. People know TNA exist. You don't need to be part of this mythical IWC to know about it. The problem is people know about it, they just don't care. They had their biggest audience tuning in to see Hulk Hogan debut. The quarter hour numbers were close to 3 million people for it. As the show went on more and more people got to "sample" TNA, didn't like how it tasted, and turned it off. My brain is damaged beyond repair? And I'm the one insulting people on this thread? Your post is a pretty selective interpretation of events. Of course Hogan's debut popped a rating which would never be sustainable. 60% outside 18-49 doesn't make it exclusively kids watching. That's nearly half inside 18-49! It's just the old IWC narrative where we should all give up on TNA for reason x, y or z depending on the year. But where's this mythical perfect wrestling company which is going to replace it? Until it comes along, I welcome the existance of TNA, warts and all, because without it North American national wrestling *is* WWE, and nothing else. Where did I say your brain is damaged I don't consider my post selective. Just pointed out one specific incident where they had an audience and lost it. Also when your main demo is the 18-34 male group and more than half of your audience comes from outside that it makes your programming worthless. That's not an opinion. That's an unfortunate fact. Hard to sell ad time for your show. Hard to get local insertion pricing established. The demo problem is also something that WWE faced to some extent but since the taming of their programming they aren't missing demo anymore. Just boils down to the people they want to watch, due to the programming they are supposedly scripting and the advertisers that are trying be seen, aren't the ones watching. Never said there was some mythical perfect wrestling company coming. Just said with this corpse out of the way it gives another fed an opportunity in the future to give national TV a go. With this lot clogging up the landscape it won't happen. It all boils down to your last sentence. WWE IS to the vast majority of wrestling fans in the US, wrestling. Whether it be through not recognizing TNA, not knowing about it, knowing but not caring, or LOLing TNA most don't give 2 shits about it. So to say TNA being gone would in any way effect wrestling as a whole is just incorrect. The are the CFL of American Football. Most football fans know it exist. Some non football fans even know about it. Most people other than diehard fans could be assed with watching it. The league is littered with guys who weren't good enough for the NFL or couldn't get in due to one reason or another, usually their own doing. There are a few diamonds in the rough who could play in the NFL but they are few and far between. If it were to go under majority of people wouldn't even blink an eye. Would just be people not good enough for the NFL out of jobs and the only people really upset would be those diehard fans. NFL would continue rolling along without skipping a beat and to a vast majority of fans it wouldn't even be a blip on the radar. TNA being gone would be no different.
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Post by creepytennis on Sept 20, 2014 17:58:28 GMT -5
My brain is damaged beyond repair? And I'm the one insulting people on this thread? Your post is a pretty selective interpretation of events. Of course Hogan's debut popped a rating which would never be sustainable. 60% outside 18-49 doesn't make it exclusively kids watching. That's nearly half inside 18-49! It's just the old IWC narrative where we should all give up on TNA for reason x, y or z depending on the year. But where's this mythical perfect wrestling company which is going to replace it? Until it comes along, I welcome the existance of TNA, warts and all, because without it North American national wrestling *is* WWE, and nothing else. Where did I say your brain is damaged I don't consider my post selective. Just pointed out one specific incident where they had an audience and lost it. Also when your main demo is the 18-34 male group and more than half of your audience comes from outside that it makes your programming worthless. That's not an opinion. That's an unfortunate fact. Hard to sell ad time for your show. Hard to get local insertion pricing established. The demo problem is also something that WWE faced to some extent but since the taming of their programming they aren't missing demo anymore. Just boils down to the people they want to watch, due to the programming they are supposedly scripting and the advertisers that are trying be seen, aren't the ones watching. Never said there was some mythical perfect wrestling company coming. Just said with this corpse out of the way it gives another fed an opportunity in the future to give national TV a go. With this lot clogging up the landscape it won't happen. It all boils down to your last sentence. WWE IS to the vast majority of wrestling fans in the US, wrestling. Whether it be through not recognizing TNA, not knowing about it, knowing but not caring, or LOLing TNA most don't give 2 shits about it. So to say TNA being gone would in any way effect wrestling as a whole is just incorrect. The are the CFL of American Football. Most football fans know it exist. Some non football fans even know about it. Most people other than diehard fans could be assed with watching it. The league is littered with guys who weren't good enough for the NFL or couldn't get in due to one reason or another, usually their own doing. There are a few diamonds in the rough who could play in the NFL but they are few and far between. If it were to go under majority of people wouldn't even blink an eye. Would just be people not good enough for the NFL out of jobs and the only people really upset would be those diehard fans. NFL would continue rolling along without skipping a beat and to a vast majority of fans it wouldn't even be a blip on the radar. TNA being gone would be no different. Yes sorry I misread your post about the brain thing! On the one hand you say TNA is blocking another company from getting national TV and on the other you say TNA is totally insignificant! Which is it? :-) Look, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. Who would've thought saying you *didn't* want a company to go out of business could be so controversial? In brief: Full disclosure: I quite like current TNA. I like that wrestlers who wouldn't get a chance in the 'E get a chance. I like seeing the bigger movesets TNA allow wrestlers to use. I think if TNA go under it'll take a long time for anything to replace it. I'd rather see TNA improve (sold if necessary), or another alternative fed come up and overtake it *before* it goes under, rather than us being left with no nationwide non-WWE fed. That's it. I don't think I'm crazy. I still find it hard to understand wrestling fans wanting a company to fold. That's all I gotta say.
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Post by bluemeii on Sept 20, 2014 18:04:10 GMT -5
Where did I say your brain is damaged I don't consider my post selective. Just pointed out one specific incident where they had an audience and lost it. Also when your main demo is the 18-34 male group and more than half of your audience comes from outside that it makes your programming worthless. That's not an opinion. That's an unfortunate fact. Hard to sell ad time for your show. Hard to get local insertion pricing established. The demo problem is also something that WWE faced to some extent but since the taming of their programming they aren't missing demo anymore. Just boils down to the people they want to watch, due to the programming they are supposedly scripting and the advertisers that are trying be seen, aren't the ones watching. Never said there was some mythical perfect wrestling company coming. Just said with this corpse out of the way it gives another fed an opportunity in the future to give national TV a go. With this lot clogging up the landscape it won't happen. It all boils down to your last sentence. WWE IS to the vast majority of wrestling fans in the US, wrestling. Whether it be through not recognizing TNA, not knowing about it, knowing but not caring, or LOLing TNA most don't give 2 shits about it. So to say TNA being gone would in any way effect wrestling as a whole is just incorrect. The are the CFL of American Football. Most football fans know it exist. Some non football fans even know about it. Most people other than diehard fans could be assed with watching it. The league is littered with guys who weren't good enough for the NFL or couldn't get in due to one reason or another, usually their own doing. There are a few diamonds in the rough who could play in the NFL but they are few and far between. If it were to go under majority of people wouldn't even blink an eye. Would just be people not good enough for the NFL out of jobs and the only people really upset would be those diehard fans. NFL would continue rolling along without skipping a beat and to a vast majority of fans it wouldn't even be a blip on the radar. TNA being gone would be no different. Yes sorry I misread your post about the brain thing! On the one hand you say TNA is blocking another company from getting national TV and on the other you say TNA is totally insignificant! Which is it? :-) Look, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. Who would've thought saying you *didn't* want a company to go out of business could be so controversial? In brief: Full disclosure: I quite like current TNA. I like that wrestlers who wouldn't get a chance in the 'E get a chance. I like seeing the bigger movesets TNA allow wrestlers to use. I think if TNA go under it'll take a long time for anything to replace it. I'd rather see TNA improve (sold if necessary), or another alternative fed come up and overtake it *before* it goes under, rather than us being left with no nationwide non-WWE fed. That's it. I don't think I'm crazy. I still find it hard to understand wrestling fans wanting a company to fold. That's all I gotta say. Works for me. Thing is you kinda poked the hornets nest when you came in throwing around the "hater", "real wrestling fans", and the hive mind IWC arguments. As you've seen since you posted those comments you've gotten different reactions and reasons from alot of different posters. Don't think it was the fact that you disagreed with the majority, hell that's kinda cool and leaves things open for debate. Was more about lumping everyone together that posts in the TNA section as part of the mythical IWC hive mind that brought the noise.
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Post by creepytennis on Sept 20, 2014 18:09:40 GMT -5
Yes sorry I misread your post about the brain thing! On the one hand you say TNA is blocking another company from getting national TV and on the other you say TNA is totally insignificant! Which is it? :-) Look, I think we're going to have to agree to disagree. Who would've thought saying you *didn't* want a company to go out of business could be so controversial? In brief: Full disclosure: I quite like current TNA. I like that wrestlers who wouldn't get a chance in the 'E get a chance. I like seeing the bigger movesets TNA allow wrestlers to use. I think if TNA go under it'll take a long time for anything to replace it. I'd rather see TNA improve (sold if necessary), or another alternative fed come up and overtake it *before* it goes under, rather than us being left with no nationwide non-WWE fed. That's it. I don't think I'm crazy. I still find it hard to understand wrestling fans wanting a company to fold. That's all I gotta say. Works for me. Thing is you kinda poked the hornets nest when you came in throwing around the "hater", "real wrestling fans", and the hive mind IWC arguments. As you've seen since you posted those comments you've gotten different reactions and reasons from alot of different posters. Don't think it was the fact that you disagreed with the majority, hell that's kinda cool and leaves things open for debate. Was more about lumping everyone together that posts in the TNA section as part of the mythical IWC hive mind that brought the noise. Um. I'm not really taking any of that back. I'm just tired of repeating myself and I've said everything I gotta say.
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Post by bluemeii on Sept 20, 2014 18:11:04 GMT -5
Works for me. Thing is you kinda poked the hornets nest when you came in throwing around the "hater", "real wrestling fans", and the hive mind IWC arguments. As you've seen since you posted those comments you've gotten different reactions and reasons from alot of different posters. Don't think it was the fact that you disagreed with the majority, hell that's kinda cool and leaves things open for debate. Was more about lumping everyone together that posts in the TNA section as part of the mythical IWC hive mind that brought the noise. Um. I'm not really taking any of that back. I'm just tired of repeating myself and I've said everything I gotta say. Well than thanks for insulting the posters of the TNA board you have yourself a wonderful day.
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Post by creepytennis on Sept 20, 2014 18:24:41 GMT -5
Um. I'm not really taking any of that back. I'm just tired of repeating myself and I've said everything I gotta say. Well than thanks for insulting the posters of the TNA board you have yourself a wonderful day. I'm not insulting anybody. Not at all. I do think some people are unnecessarily, unfairly negative against TNA, and that is a bit of a prevalent IWC trait. Are you seriously saying that's not true? Not even a little bit?
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Post by Fiddleford H. McGucket on Sept 20, 2014 19:29:25 GMT -5
Well than thanks for insulting the posters of the TNA board you have yourself a wonderful day. I'm not insulting anybody. Not at all. I do think some people are unnecessarily, unfairly negative against TNA, and that is a bit of a prevalent IWC trait. Are you seriously saying that's not true? Not even a little bit? May I cut in? Gonna harp on one word you chose here...... "Unfairly". Now yes, a LOT of the Message boards, Fans, and the like are harsh on TNA, but I don't believe they are UNFAIRLY so. And yes it IS a prevalent trait because people LIKE to discuss things that don't go as planned. Think of it as the "But you f*** one goat" scenario. TNA DID do some good things, but it seems recently (at least since Dixie Carter/Panda Energy took the reins) that every time the option came to do something good or something stupid, they chose the latter option. - Extending MULTIPLE "Faction" Angles to the point of absurdity with no end-game planned. - Rehiring Jeff Hardy with a HARD DRUG case pending in court, Not firing him for endangering co-workers by working high. - Letting Bad Influence go. - Multiple cases where a wrestler's contract either ran out or was never finalized before advertising them or pushing them. - Kurt Angle's continued employment and insanity - NEVER ADVERTISING - Letting Bad Influence go.- Pushing multiple people to be "the guy" only to not pull the trigger in good time or at all (Storm, Anderson, AJ, Samoa Joe). - Moving to Mondays.... - Making Dixie a focal point - Letting Bad Influence go.
I could go on but that's all i could think of off the top of my head. You ask a LARGE contingent of fans about Anything, you'll notice patterns. The IWC now is literally EVERYONE that watches wrestling. If anything we're one of the....."tamest" boards when it comes to TNA "hate" that isn't a fan site for it.
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