Jeff Mangum PI
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Dec 29, 2014 23:29:52 GMT -5
It's obvious they don't plan for him to even win a match again, much less be a star like he was supposed to be after WM30, so just cut the dude already. Just let him go tear it up in New Japan where they'll actually treat him with some dignity.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 29, 2014 23:46:45 GMT -5
Hey if they do, I'm fine with it, because he'll be booked like a monster everywhere else. I'd love to see him back in CHIKARA again
And as someone said in the RAW Thread, Cesaro vs Okada would be spectacular.
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Post by froggyfrog on Dec 29, 2014 23:47:06 GMT -5
please no
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Post by Sparkybob on Dec 29, 2014 23:50:17 GMT -5
I think Cesaro would much rather collect these WWE checks right now.
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Post by mizerable on Dec 29, 2014 23:51:35 GMT -5
I'm usually fine with flubbing a line, but there's flubbing, then there's outright saying something that is false. And then take into account this was a serious promo about how the office should take him seriously.
That was almost Sid cringeworthy, and I say that as a fan of Cesaro. You can't make promo mistakes like that. Butchering a word is one thing, looking like a fool who can't count is another.
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Post by radiantsilvergun on Dec 29, 2014 23:53:04 GMT -5
Yeah he just passed that "pay your dues in midcard hell" stage of his career that everyone brought in after 07-08 goes through if the WWE wants to take them to the top. Looks like creative has nothing for him unfortunately. Don't waste that glorious peak and go to NJPW to top off a nice career.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 29, 2014 23:54:26 GMT -5
#FreeClaudio
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Post by Lupin the Third on Dec 29, 2014 23:55:57 GMT -5
Hey if they do, I'm fine with it, because he'll be booked like a monster everywhere else. I'd love to see him back in CHIKARA again And as someone said in the RAW Thread, Cesaro vs Okada would be spectacular. I've said it before, I'll say it again... {Spoiler}
Im Namen der Bruderschaft.
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Post by Some Guy on Dec 29, 2014 23:57:18 GMT -5
I'm usually fine with flubbing a line, but there's flubbing, then there's outright saying something that is false. And then take into account this was a serious promo about how the office should take him seriously. That was almost Sid cringeworthy, and I say that as a fan of Cesaro. You can't make promo mistakes like that. Butchering a word is one thing, looking like a fool who can't count is another. He was talking about sets of ropes in the ring, which there were four. He phrased it incorrectly. But whatever you say, that's clearly as bad as Sid.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Dec 29, 2014 23:58:25 GMT -5
He's been on the main roster non-stop for almost three years. If you're gonna flub something like that and unconfidently tidy it up mid-promo then you just don't have the charisma to be at the top of the WWE. And again, it's moments like this that vindicate Vince for overly scripting people's promos. He had his moment and it seemed like the promo wrote itself and then he messes up and embarrasses himself. It looked amateur from a guy who never looks as such.
He's not getting fired since he's reliable in the ring where it REALLY matters as a wrestler. But outside of that, if I'm Vince, why should I put him as a top star who has to cut promos? Nah. Pains me to say it since I love Cesaro, but he just can't seem to put the pieces together.
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Jeff Mangum PI
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Dec 30, 2014 0:02:18 GMT -5
I'm usually fine with flubbing a line, but there's flubbing, then there's outright saying something that is false. And then take into account this was a serious promo about how the office should take him seriously. That was almost Sid cringeworthy, and I say that as a fan of Cesaro. You can't make promo mistakes like that. Butchering a word is one thing, looking like a fool who can't count is another. He was talking about sets of ropes in the ring, which there were four. He phrased it incorrectly. But whatever you say, that's clearly as bad as Sid. Dude, did you hear that Cesaro promo? It was like "Genesis of McGillicutty" but times a trillion. I like Cesaro but he needs to learn how to cut promos like the actual main eventers in WWE, y'know, like Roman Reigns and the Usos.
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Post by Some Guy on Dec 30, 2014 0:03:42 GMT -5
He was talking about sets of ropes in the ring, which there were four. He phrased it incorrectly. But whatever you say, that's clearly as bad as Sid. Dude, did you hear that Cesaro promo? It was like "Genesis of McGillicutty" but times a trillion. I like Cesaro but he needs to learn how to cut promos like the actual main eventers in WWE, y'know, like Roman Reigns and the Usos. Uhh, seriously? One flubbed line makes it worse than the worst promo of all time? No, it was perfectly fine before the flubbed line, which he laughed off under his breath right away.
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Jeff Mangum PI
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Dec 30, 2014 0:04:38 GMT -5
Dude, did you hear that Cesaro promo? It was like "Genesis of McGillicutty" but times a trillion. I like Cesaro but he needs to learn how to cut promos like the actual main eventers in WWE, y'know, like Roman Reigns and the Usos. Uhh, seriously? One flubbed line makes it worse than the worst promo of all time? No, it was perfectly fine before the flubbed line, which he laughed off under his breath right away. Was being sarcastic there.
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Post by Andy Martin on Dec 30, 2014 0:07:15 GMT -5
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Post by Some Guy on Dec 30, 2014 0:07:28 GMT -5
Uhh, seriously? One flubbed line makes it worse than the worst promo of all time? No, it was perfectly fine before the flubbed line, which he laughed off under his breath right away. Was being sarcastic there. I almost guessed that, but the "I like Cesaro" part threw me off.
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Post by Von Wagner's Brownies on Dec 30, 2014 0:07:37 GMT -5
He was talking about sets of ropes in the ring, which there were four. He phrased it incorrectly. But whatever you say, that's clearly as bad as Sid. Dude, did you hear that Cesaro promo? It was like "Genesis of McGillicutty" but times a trillion. Cesaro flubbing up one line is NOTHING, nor is it worse than this:
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Post by mizerable on Dec 30, 2014 0:11:41 GMT -5
You're not hearing what we're saying. And no one steps through all 4 sets of ropes because that would be dumb. Everyone who heard that promo heard something that was incorrect. Even if he went on to clarify what you assumed he meant, he'd only dig a deeper whole.
The point I'm making is that given the opportunity like that, you have to go out there and prove the office wrong. He CAN prove the office wrong, but he didn't tonight.
This reminds me a lot of Jarrett's worked shoot on Vince when he came back from WCW. It had no merit to it, no real passion. And as a result, it went nowhere.
I like Cesaro and I'm not going to make excuses for him, because that gets him nowhere. He didn't convey what he needed to and now has to work yet even harder to make up for it.
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Post by Society of the Spectacle on Dec 30, 2014 0:13:36 GMT -5
Here's the thing, my take on the entire promo was the office saying, "go cut a CM Punk style promo."
That's not Cesaro's promo style. If he was allowed to either be a cocky a-hole or a genuine babyface who is confident he can beat anyone in the world, then he would have been fine. How exactly is he supposed to get over with the tired ol' "I'm a hard working wrestler, but not for you fans," and then go out and do a move like the swing that the fans want to see?
Yeah he flubbed that line, yeah it wasn't a great promo, but why not let the guys do their own thing. Scripting Cesaro to shoot, and Ryback to tell his life story, these are not things that play into people's strengths.
And really, when was the last time Cesaro had this kind of spotlight for a promo? Why is this not happening at every house show and every RAW so that he can improve? No one, I don't care if you are Steve Austin or Roddy Piper is going to get good at promos if they are given two minutes every six months to get over. It's a three hour program. Make the time for these guys.
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Post by "I'm Batman..." on Dec 30, 2014 0:15:42 GMT -5
I think Cesaro would much rather collect these WWE checks right now. It's probably a decent gig. Also...,"too swiss".
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Post by Pooh Carlson on Dec 30, 2014 0:21:50 GMT -5
Man I can't believe that jabroni Hulk Hogan went out there and totally flubbed the line about being in the Superdome. I mean, here he is on the biggest stage of them all, WRESTLEMANIA, and he says "Silverdome" instead of "Superdome!" Who gave this guy a mic? I can't believe Vince would put him out there. Seriously, Hulk should be fired for that. He shouldn't be allowed anywhere near a mic, let alone Raw, let alone the WWE. He should just go back to Japan. I mean how can the front office even take Hogan seriously when he's just gonna go out there and cut a promo with such a flub in it that its practically Sid cutting the Genesis of McGillicutty promo times a hundred billion trillion million gazillion!!!!!!!!!
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