The Ichi
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 2, 2015 15:43:51 GMT -5
Brock. For f***s sake, Brock.
"B-but Meng could just fight really dirty!"
He wouldn't have time to. Short of ambusing him from behind with a weapon, Brock would react to anything he tried. It's called PROFESSIONAL fighting for a reason.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Apr 2, 2015 15:45:28 GMT -5
It's not really a matter of who wins against Brock and Haku. It's a question of who is left to tell the tale.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 2, 2015 15:45:49 GMT -5
Some of you guys aren't realizing that Meng is incredibly well trained in various martial arts, as well. Dude even trained in sumo.
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Post by The Ichi on Apr 2, 2015 15:50:58 GMT -5
Some of you guys aren't realizing that Meng is incredibly well trained in various martial arts, as well. Dude even trained in sumo. There's a big difference between "trained in" and "became the top in the World at".
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Post by angryfan on Apr 2, 2015 15:55:25 GMT -5
Some of you guys aren't realizing that Meng is incredibly well trained in various martial arts, as well. Dude even trained in sumo. He trained in Sumo starting at age 10. His family thought it would toughen him up... Think about that for a minute. Sport run by the God damn Yakuza? Sure, let's go ahead and send our ten year old son over there to learn it, it'll put hair on his chest. Dont' really understand the ranking system, but he got to what appears to be one of the higher ranks, third or fourth it appears, so that's not too shabby. In their primes, that would be a million dollar PPV MMA fight, I promise you that.
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Post by chrom on Apr 2, 2015 16:01:56 GMT -5
Some of you guys aren't realizing that Meng is incredibly well trained in various martial arts, as well. Dude even trained in sumo. There's a big difference between "trained in" and "became the top in the World at". I believe you missed the part about Meng being incredibly well trained. He's well trained in many martial arts. He's not some street brawler If he was in his prime now with MMA on the rise, many of his peers believe he would have dominanted with zero effort.
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Post by CuJ0 Will Keep Dancing on Apr 2, 2015 16:31:26 GMT -5
I've said before but we have actual proof of Brock's fighting ability. He's been tested against some of best fighters on the planet, got some W's and some L's but it's been documented.
I'm sure Meng was tough and had some actual training but since the first UFC tournament, Martial Arts have evolved tremendously in a very short amount of time. Meng might have some tricks up his sleeve but he would need quite a bit of current training to even have a chance against the striking of Overeem or the grappling of Frank Mir. Brock had the opportunity to train with a variety of guys, with a variety of skillsets, in an environment that took all the bullshit mysticism out of martial arts and just focused on results. That gives him a huge advantage.
Anything can happen in a fight, but I'll take actual evidence over tall tales told by a bunch of carnies.
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Post by Dang! on Apr 2, 2015 17:30:38 GMT -5
The world would just implode. Include Steve Blackman and the universe will end. Include Chuck Norris and Chuck Norris will get his ginger ass beat.
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Post by Confused Mark Wahlberg on Apr 2, 2015 18:26:29 GMT -5
The good news is we get to see Brock vs Brock in WWE: Champion Edition
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Post by Racksman on Apr 2, 2015 18:27:54 GMT -5
I'd prefer not to answer this question as I'm sure both men can use the internet and I'd fear for my safety.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Apr 2, 2015 18:52:19 GMT -5
There's a big difference between "trained in" and "became the top in the World at". I believe you missed the part about Meng being incredibly well trained. He's well trained in many martial arts. He's not some street brawler If he was in his prime now with MMA on the rise, many of his peers believe he would have dominanted with zero effort. I picture Haku being similar to Kimo Leopoldo in MMA. Both pacific Islanders, similar height but Haku has about 25 more pounds. Kimo lost to guys like Shamrock, beat guys like Tank Abbott and drew against Dan Severn. And that was in a time where there were less skilled fighters in UFC. Of course, he's not the same guy as Haku so who knows, but Brock would have a height and weight advantage. I would pick him but it wouldn't surprise me if Haku could beat him. I would love to see this fight even more than something like Ali/Tyson.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2015 21:19:51 GMT -5
Some of you guys aren't realizing that Meng is incredibly well trained in various martial arts, as well. Dude even trained in sumo. There's a big difference between "trained in" and "became the top in the World at". I'm not even going to venture a guess as to would win this hypothetical but for as much as I love Brock his MMA isn't top notch, he's good for sure, but he was winning on pure athletic ability a lot of the time.
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Post by Mozenrath on Apr 2, 2015 21:21:50 GMT -5
I don't really know what Haku's physical health is currently like. Plus, where does such a fight end, what is the win condition?
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Apr 2, 2015 21:36:37 GMT -5
I don't really know what Haku's physical health is currently like. Plus, where does such a fight end, what is the win condition? The world continues to spin without one of them saying "f***nit, I'm bored. I'm just gonna tear the planet in half." It's like if Hulk fought Doomsday. There are no winners, only losers if one (or both) of them so choses.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 3, 2015 5:56:31 GMT -5
Meng and it's not even close. For some reason, you're all picturing some lovely fight.
I'm a huge pacifist, but I actually heard some very, very, very good advice just a week ago, at age 32.
"Always fight dirty. You're not there to make friends".
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Post by AwamoriRock on Apr 3, 2015 6:22:41 GMT -5
If they fight clean--Brock.
If they fight dirty--Brock.
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Post by The Beast Disincarnate on Apr 3, 2015 6:35:11 GMT -5
You remember that bad mean scary motherf***er that became so famous for wreaking dudes in backyards fights on youtube? Yeah, Kimbo Slice. What happenend when he decided to fight against professionally trained guys?
He got dismantled by the first nobody he faced.
So yeah, I say Brock.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Apr 3, 2015 6:47:10 GMT -5
You remember that bad mean scary motherf***er that became so famous for wreaking dudes in backyards fights on youtube? Yeah, Kimbo Slice. What happenend when he decided to fight against professionally trained guys? He got dismantled by the first nobody he faced. So yeah, I say Brock. He fought trained guys in a trained fight. Not exactly the same thing.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Apr 3, 2015 7:53:48 GMT -5
Meng bites Brock in the difficulttospellitis, then Brock invites Haku to Suplex City. Afterwards, Paul buys them Jimmy Johns and icecream, maybe even a pizza.
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Post by HMARK Center on Apr 3, 2015 10:22:07 GMT -5
You remember that bad mean scary motherf***er that became so famous for wreaking dudes in backyards fights on youtube? Yeah, Kimbo Slice. What happenend when he decided to fight against professionally trained guys? He got dismantled by the first nobody he faced. So yeah, I say Brock. Once again: Meng is a highly trained martial artist (various forms). Most of the stories you hear are of him beating up drunk morons at bars, because he worked in professional (read: fake) wrestling. That doesn't erase his training.
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