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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 10:40:29 GMT -5
Would this fight take place at Jimmy Johns?
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Apr 3, 2015 12:25:53 GMT -5
I've seen Brock get his ass kicked legit.
I've never heard of Haku losing a fight.
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Post by Digital Witness on Apr 3, 2015 12:35:34 GMT -5
I'd argue that a lot of the guys that Haku has jacked up were untrained bar room tough guys.
Brock's only got his ass kicked by guys at or above his fighting level.
I think Haku in his prime would have a shot cause he fights dirty and cares nothing for the other guy. I still see Brock as the last man standing though.
I'd say the same thing if you paired him up with Race.
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Post by Raskovnik on Apr 3, 2015 12:36:15 GMT -5
The goofiest thing about people insisting Meng would win in a "no holds barred" fight is assuming that Brock would somehow still be beholden to the rules, like it's all he knows, cowering in fear while Meng is grabbing steel chairs or some shit. It's weird. Pit both of them in their respective primes and Brock will win every time. I'm not at all impressed with the tall tales of Meng beating up drunk dudes and marks. Lesnar is a f***ing freak of nature in every way imaginable with fists the size of a lunchbox and he knows how to use them. I don't doubt Meng is "wrestler tough" but I don't know how well that'd transfer to a world class fighter who is professionally trained to pound you into the pavement.
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Post by evilone on Apr 3, 2015 12:49:56 GMT -5
Im giggling at people doubting Meng.
First of all Brock's physical size is not any kind of advantage as Meng is huge as well. If physical size was a deciding factor Im pretty much sure fight between Sid and Arn would go other way around. Second Brock's UFC career is respectable but far away from legendary or of Velasquez or Gracie.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 3, 2015 13:03:58 GMT -5
All we have about Meng is stories from people who lie for a living.
I'd need something more tangible to go against Brock.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 13:21:19 GMT -5
All we have about Meng is stories from people who lie for a living. I'd need something more tangible to go against Brock. I think that you're looking at it from the wrong perspective. If anything the fact that they're lying carnies makes their words about Haku even more true. What would a tough guy wrestler who's all about selling himself gain from saying that he'd piss his pants if Meng looked at him funny? The fact is they're people who are known liars and self-promoters yet they put Meng over when he was in rival companies or even retired and sitting at home... They did this when it did them absolutely no favors and did nothing to help them, if only to show him the respect he deserves (and not piss him off).
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Post by Some Guy on Apr 3, 2015 13:22:49 GMT -5
A broken down Angle beat Brock backstage in 2003, so...
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 3, 2015 13:25:16 GMT -5
Not saying Meng ain't badass, just we have no real examples.
Also Angle is still an Olympic champ. He wasn't AS broken down in 03.
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Post by Ryushinku on Apr 3, 2015 15:28:35 GMT -5
Brock is many things, including an intelligent man. Getting his nose bitten off is probably the point where even he will consider leaving the damn bar instead,
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Post by psychokiller on Apr 3, 2015 15:35:50 GMT -5
Im giggling at people doubting Meng. First of all Brock's physical size is not any kind of advantage as Meng is huge as well. If physical size was a deciding factor Im pretty much sure fight between Sid and Arn would go other way around. Second Brock's UFC career is respectable but far away from legendary or of Velasquez or Gracie. Yeah, I think Brock's UFC career is a bit overrated. He beat Heath Herring who was already way past his prime. And had 13 losses & retired after Brock beat him. He beat a 45 year old Couture to win the title after having just one win in the UFC. His only good wins are against Frank Mir & Shane Carwin. Every other fight were handpicked opponents or were wins against shit fighters or past their prime fighters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 15:37:16 GMT -5
Im giggling at people doubting Meng. First of all Brock's physical size is not any kind of advantage as Meng is huge as well. If physical size was a deciding factor Im pretty much sure fight between Sid and Arn would go other way around. Second Brock's UFC career is respectable but far away from legendary or of Velasquez or Gracie. He won the Heavyweight Title in the UFC - the most unpredictable division due to the "one punch" aspect being the strongest. Haku beat up a few untrained drunks. The mere notion Brock is underdog against Haku is ridiculous.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Apr 3, 2015 15:39:58 GMT -5
There's almost nobody I would back in a fight with Brock. Maybe the Hulk, at a push. Even he's in danger.
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Post by angryfan on Apr 3, 2015 16:09:28 GMT -5
You know what, give me a six way match, round robin tournament, whatever. In their primes, we've got.
Danny Hodge ('nuff said) Lesnar Meng (sumo training is NOT easy, and he did well with it) Gene LaBell (father of MMA and a badass in his old age) Kurt Angle Ken Shamrock All of them were or are pro wrestlers, all of them had an amature or professional background in a real fight, and all of them, at some point, have some "badass cred" around them.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Apr 3, 2015 21:08:02 GMT -5
I'd need something more tangible to go against Brock. This is how he reacts to being punched...
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Apr 3, 2015 21:09:37 GMT -5
I'd need something more tangible to go against Brock. This is how he reacts to being punched...
That still ain't footage of Meng doing anything though.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Apr 3, 2015 21:11:13 GMT -5
That still ain't footage of Meng doing anything though. YOU'RE LIVING IN A SHADOW WORLD!!!!
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Post by jrwfsl147 on Apr 3, 2015 21:13:19 GMT -5
Words fail me...
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Post by Kay Faban on Apr 3, 2015 21:17:01 GMT -5
Undertaker is the best pure striker in the history of our buisness. So I pick him. He has also only lost once at WrestleMania, although it was to Brock so that's tough.
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Post by Harry The Arrow was Wrong! on Apr 3, 2015 21:18:47 GMT -5
I'd need something more tangible to go against Brock. This is how he reacts to being punched...
You do realize he's getting punched by the best striker in UFC heavyweight history? A guy who has KO'd 11 of his 13 opponents.
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