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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 21:30:49 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there were reports at one point saying that Jenner was checking a cell phone when the accident happened, right? Were those reports true?
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Aug 20, 2015 21:47:16 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but there were reports at one point saying that Jenner was checking a cell phone when the accident happened, right? Were those reports true? The official report said that Jenner was inattentive but not texting (or intoxicated) Vague, really vague.
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Post by Malcolm on Aug 20, 2015 21:47:15 GMT -5
Who's gonna be the first to make a very 1970s joke about female drivers in reference to this? Family Guy... And it will be really dated by then, too.
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Post by Blindkarevik on Aug 20, 2015 22:29:35 GMT -5
At least this is mildly more interesting than one of the Kardashian girls new f***ing dog!
albeit only mildly.
That whole family can f*** a dick at this point.
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Post by LuchaBella on Aug 20, 2015 22:48:31 GMT -5
A year is pretty standard for manslaughter. My friend and her unborn child were killed by a drunk driver, and he got out in less than 3 years. Seeing that Jenner wasnt intoxicated, the time is less. You would think the laws would make it more time due to a person dying, but no.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 22:51:50 GMT -5
A year is pretty standard for manslaughter. My friend and her unborn child were killed by a drunk driver, and he got out in less than 3 years. Seeing that Jenner wasnt intoxicated, the time is less. You would think the laws would make it more time due to a person dying, but no. The fact that people get more time in jail for drugs or even piracy is completely unacceptable to me.
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Post by LuchaBella on Aug 20, 2015 22:57:42 GMT -5
A year is pretty standard for manslaughter. My friend and her unborn child were killed by a drunk driver, and he got out in less than 3 years. Seeing that Jenner wasnt intoxicated, the time is less. You would think the laws would make it more time due to a person dying, but no. The fact that people get more time in jail for drugs or even piracy is completely unacceptable to me. I 100% agree. The guy drove acrosd the freeway from one side, and on to the opposite side, slammed into my friend head on, and flipped her car off the freeway down a hill. AND she didnt die instantly. We protested the shit out of the sentence that my friends killer got, because the time he got was an insult. But, he came from money and had a good lawyer. He was out in 2 1/2 years. I'll never be able to wrap my head around it. Weed and piracy, 5+ years.. Killing someone, 2years plus good behavior. Go f***ing figure.
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Post by basicdugganomix on Aug 20, 2015 22:58:11 GMT -5
Good she should be brought to justice for killing that lady
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 23:02:42 GMT -5
The fact that people get more time in jail for drugs or even piracy is completely unacceptable to me. I 100% agree. The guy drove acrosd the freeway from one side, and on to the opposite side, slammed into my friend head on, and flipped her car off the freeway down a hill. AND she didnt die instantly. We protested the shit out of the sentence that my friends killer got, because the time he got was an insult. But, he came from money and had a good lawyer. He was out in 2 1/2 years. I'll never be able to wrap my head around it. Weed and piracy, 5+ years.. Killing someone, 2years plus good behavior. Go f***ing figure. Totally agree. They really need to overhaul some laws.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Aug 20, 2015 23:07:01 GMT -5
If Jenner still has a penis, then it's men's prison. California does not mix and match regardless of how the convict identifies themselves.
Moot point, no time shall be served.
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Post by nm on Aug 20, 2015 23:08:39 GMT -5
Even if she got a year in jail she would be released after like 12 minutes due to prison overcrowding
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Post by basicdugganomix on Aug 20, 2015 23:19:34 GMT -5
If they do put Jenner in women's prison, how does it not set a terrible precedent of males considering themselves to be female in order to be placed in prison with the opposite sex? Simple, Jenner already transitionned. There is more to it than just saying "welp, I'm a woman now". The very least to do would be to have your gender officially changed, which I imagine is not a fast process. Actually he still has the nuts and bolt In prison they keep transgendered females with males if they still have a penis His penis keeps him with males However a female to male transgender always stays with females because the likelyhood them being raped is high <<<big bossman irl here
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Post by Deleted on Aug 20, 2015 23:42:03 GMT -5
Simple, Jenner already transitionned. There is more to it than just saying "welp, I'm a woman now". The very least to do would be to have your gender officially changed, which I imagine is not a fast process. Actually he still has the nuts and bolt In prison they keep transgendered females with males if they still have a penis His penis keeps him with males However a female to male transgender always stays with females because the likelyhood them being raped is high <<<big bossman irl here except she's a she. once more, your genitalia doesn't determine your gender.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 20, 2015 23:48:27 GMT -5
Actually he still has the nuts and bolt In prison they keep transgendered females with males if they still have a penis His penis keeps him with males However a female to male transgender always stays with females because the likelyhood them being raped is high <<<big bossman irl here except she's a she. once more, your genitalia doesn't determine your gender. Scientifically, it does.
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Post by mcmahonfan85 on Aug 20, 2015 23:51:19 GMT -5
Actually he still has the nuts and bolt In prison they keep transgendered females with males if they still have a penis His penis keeps him with males However a female to male transgender always stays with females because the likelyhood them being raped is high <<<big bossman irl here except she's a she. once more, your genitalia doesn't determine your gender. you seem to be missing the point there. whether or not a person self identifies with the opposite gender, if physically they are male, they go to a male prison, and if physically they are female, they go to female prison
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Post by FinalGwen on Aug 20, 2015 23:57:17 GMT -5
except she's a she. once more, your genitalia doesn't determine your gender. Scientifically, it does. Gender isn't scientific, it's sociological. Also, the wide spectrum of chromosonal possibilities and the crude way intersex people are forced into one role or another prove that the limited understanding of biological sex we've mustered up so far isn't all that rigid either. So no, scientifically it does not.
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Post by basicdugganomix on Aug 21, 2015 0:01:01 GMT -5
The reason jenner is kept with males is due to having a penis
A penis she intends to keep.
Vaginas stay with vaginas
Penis with penis in jail. In jenner's case they will be kept in shu away from gen pop
It's not a question of their bruce's gender. It's a question of safety and rape prevention
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2015 0:02:16 GMT -5
I think prisons have an alternative lifestyle section. I watched a Beyond Scared Straight episode and they had a transgender (Man into Woman) in that section along with gay men. That's where Jenner would go.
Kind of weird that we got so far off the original topic though.
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Post by kidglov3s on Aug 21, 2015 0:03:23 GMT -5
Gender isn't scientific, it's sociological. Also, the wide spectrum of chromosonal possibilities and the crude way intersex people are forced into one role or another prove that the limited understanding of biological sex we've mustered up so far isn't all that rigid either. So no, scientifically it does not. The relevant question isn't (a rather loaded) scientific one, but a legal one. In California apparently "State requires documentation from by a limited range of licensed professionals in order to change gender marker. Does not require sex reassignment surgery (13 states) - See more at: www.lgbtmap.org/equality-maps/identity_document_laws#sthash.D18f3cCf.dpuf" Therefore Jenner can be legally female in the eyes of the state without vaginoplasty.
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Post by The Ichi on Aug 21, 2015 0:06:26 GMT -5
Gender isn't scientific, it's sociological. Also, the wide spectrum of chromosonal possibilities and the crude way intersex people are forced into one role or another prove that the limited understanding of biological sex we've mustered up so far isn't all that rigid either. So no, scientifically it does not. I guess I should have said physically more than scientifically. If you're born with an XY chromosome, you're physically male, regardless of what you identify as. Obviously there are unique cases, but generally speaking.
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