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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 27, 2015 17:47:14 GMT -5
It's been one whole year since a number of articles entitled "Gamers Are Dead" headlines plus the censorship on 4chan and everywhere covering for Nathan Grayson incensed a lot of gamers enough to band together on Twitter. We've had our own threads in the past about how messed up video game journalism is. These guys are the closest thing to stand up against it.
So, let's keep things civil and discuss away!
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Post by The Tank on Aug 27, 2015 17:49:29 GMT -5
The only thing I want to discuss is society needs to stop f***ing putting "_Gate" on every scandalous thing that ever happens.
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Post by BorneAgain on Aug 27, 2015 17:51:17 GMT -5
I give this thread a full two hours before its closed.
In the interim, may I just add that GamerGate as a word sounds like a rejected Nickolodeon Game Show from the early 90s. Like it be's some spin off of Nick Arcade where players can only go further on the path by beating certain game challenges from different genres before the reach the final test, the large and colorful "Gamer Gate" where they have to beat 5 different game challenges in succession without knowing what they'll be.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 27, 2015 17:51:46 GMT -5
I think the mods have a "No Gamergate discussion from eithe side" in here so don`t expect much time
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Post by Cyno on Aug 27, 2015 17:52:42 GMT -5
One year later and people are still gullible enough to believe this is about ethics in game journalism.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2015 17:56:34 GMT -5
this takes me back to the asmb message board back in 2001, but ...
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also, if the op were being facetious like this on twitter, this would be masterful trollery.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Aug 27, 2015 18:00:05 GMT -5
I never really saw it as anything but an awful and childish hate spree under the guise of ETHICS IN VIDYA GAEM JOURNALISM.
When I start my crusade to get all penguins a punch in the face, it's gonna be a campaign against ethics in food labeling.
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Post by Zombie Mod is not a ghoul. on Aug 27, 2015 18:02:10 GMT -5
I never really saw it as anything but an awful and childish hate spree under the guise of ETHICS IN VIDYA GAEM JOURNALISM. When I start my crusade to get all penguins a punch in the face, it's gonna be a campaign against ethics in food labeling. you cant punch penguins in the face, their beaks get in the way. and now you know why I'm banned from three separate zoo's.
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Post by One-Armed Drummer of Defrebel on Aug 27, 2015 18:06:20 GMT -5
I never really saw it as anything but an awful and childish hate spree under the guise of ETHICS IN VIDYA GAEM JOURNALISM. When I start my crusade to get all penguins a punch in the face, it's gonna be a campaign against ethics in food labeling. you cant punch penguins in the face, their beaks get in the way. and now you know why I'm banned from three separate zoo's. We here at Labelgate promise to find a workaround to this problem, but first we need to harass some zoo keepers on twitter.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 27, 2015 18:08:33 GMT -5
The only thing I want to discuss is society needs to stop f***ing putting "_Gate" on every scandalous thing that ever happens.
To be fair, it had two names before, but they put too much emphasis on Zoe Quinn and not Grayson and the state of game journalism. Ideally it would be #GamersUnite or something similar but the name stuck and despite controversy people had over the name it's still been going strong.
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Post by Stu on Aug 27, 2015 18:12:20 GMT -5
I'm not convinced we need this thread, but it's here anyway. So if you're gonna discuss this, don't give us reason to lock it.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 27, 2015 18:14:11 GMT -5
I'm not convinced we need this thread, but it's here anyway. So if you're gonna discuss this, don't give us reason to lock it.
This is just a general warning to everyone, right? Because I know I wasn't giving any reason.
Don't know why Labelgate decided to invade this thread though.
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Aug 27, 2015 18:16:07 GMT -5
One year later and I still have no f***ing clue what GamerGate actually is.
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Post by wisdomwizard on Aug 27, 2015 18:29:36 GMT -5
Funny thing about the whole thing is I almost was against GG until I looked closer just by searching through Twitter, and I saw a number of people calling these game sites out and having arguments with people that tar an feather them because of what happened with Anita Sarkessian's planned speech. Thing is, they caught the guy that actually responsible for the threat but she's still hasn't said anything about it. I am fully on the pro side, because I feel that these sites hid behind claims of harassment because they knew there were certain people out there that believe them. I don't believe that GamerGate is responsible for what some trolls do. One year later and I still have no f***ing clue what GamerGate actually is.
Just read the opening post again.
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Post by weaselboy on Aug 27, 2015 18:47:58 GMT -5
Funny thing about the whole thing is I almost was against GG until I looked closer just by searching through Twitter, and I saw a number of people calling these game sites out and having arguments with people that tar an feather them because of what happened with Anita Sarkessian's planned speech. Thing is, they caught the guy that actually responsible for the threat but she's still hasn't said anything about it. I am fully on the pro side, because I feel that these sites hid behind claims of harassment because they knew there were certain people out there that believe them. I don't believe that GamerGate is responsible for what some trolls do. One year later and I still have no f***ing clue what GamerGate actually is.
Just read the opening post again.
The guy who threatened her is obviously an unstable maniac, why would she wish to further engage him or comment on him? She hasn't commented on him because he's been dealt with. She's too busy rightfully pointing out the numerous flaws in the gaming industry and having to constantly move house, due to receiving repeated death threats for doing so.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 27, 2015 18:50:11 GMT -5
Funny thing about the whole thing is I almost was against GG until I looked closer just by searching through Twitter, and I saw a number of people calling these game sites out and having arguments with people that tar an feather them because of what happened with Anita Sarkessian's planned speech. Thing is, they caught the guy that actually responsible for the threat but she's still hasn't said anything about it. I am fully on the pro side, because I feel that these sites hid behind claims of harassment because they knew there were certain people out there that believe them. I don't believe that GamerGate is responsible for what some trolls do.
Just read the opening post again.
The guy who threatened her is obviously an unstable maniac, why would she wish to further engage him or comment on him? She hasn't commented on him because he's been dealt with. She's too busy rightfully pointing out the numerous flaws in the gaming industry and having to constantly move house, due to receiving repeated death threats for doing so. The rightfully part is a topic that would need it`s own thread
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Post by Speedy Cerviche on Aug 27, 2015 18:51:49 GMT -5
The only thing I want to discuss is society needs to stop f***ing putting "_Gate" on every scandalous thing that ever happens. GateGate is a perfectly fine name for that one time some dishonest person left the side gate open and let my dogs out on the road. Lucky none of the dogs were hurt.
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Post by Dub H on Aug 27, 2015 18:55:13 GMT -5
The way i see it ,I believe there is some people that truthfully believe in the ethic part and are slandared without mercy. Gamergate become the scapegoat of all to the big figured in journalists too,if someone was harassed or something is wrong just blame GG.
I can`t say ,verify or gaurantee if at the start with Zoe Quinn wans`t very hate fulfilled ,but what it is right now it is not a woman hating movemente and has many different types of people.You can argue they are mrybabies ,that what they fight for is not important and maybe even childish(they aren`t perfect,many people i saw in GG have a sense of being more important than they are) but they have legit arguments about a very corrupt field.
People say that the notion of corrupt jorunalsit in gaming is absurd, but a gorup of diverse people of ALL over the world hiding into the excuse of WANTING UNCORRUPTED JOURNALISMIM IN GAMING of all things just so they can say hate?Now for me,that is absurd and the definition of being gullible
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Post by weaselboy on Aug 27, 2015 18:56:32 GMT -5
The guy who threatened her is obviously an unstable maniac, why would she wish to further engage him or comment on him? She hasn't commented on him because he's been dealt with. She's too busy rightfully pointing out the numerous flaws in the gaming industry and having to constantly move house, due to receiving repeated death threats for doing so. The rightfully part is a topic that would need it`s own thread Sorry mate I've read the other halves argument so I'll summarise: "SHE SAID RYU SAYS SHRYUKEN WHEN HE THROWS A FIREBALL, WHEN HE ACTUALLY SEZ HADOKUEN!!!!!! Therefor I am immediately going to ignore all her previous comments about the horrible sexism in both video games and the industry because she's CLEARLY not a proper gamer!!!!!!"
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Post by Dub H on Aug 27, 2015 18:59:44 GMT -5
The rightfully part is a topic that would need it`s own thread Sorry mate I've read the other halves argument so I'll summarise: "SHE SAID RYU SAYS SHRYUKEN WHEN HE THROWS A FIREBALL, WHEN HE ACTUALLY SEZ HADOKUEN!!!!!! Therefor I am immediately going to ignore all her previous comments about the horrible sexism in both video games and the industry because she's CLEARLY not a proper gamer!!!!!!" This is nowhere near what it happens,though some people do just say she is not a gamer without even looking at why people say that.At least try to place it without trying to sound like flamebait,we are trying to not have this locked
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