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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Oct 7, 2015 11:09:44 GMT -5
Obviously this in regards to money and "burning bridges" from the "owners" perspective. When Heyman was a free agent and was getting calls from TNA and others the running joke was keep him away from the books. Paul has admitted himself "he drank the kool-aid" to much in regards to ECW meaning more and lost focus on the dollars and sense.
Dixie has been regarded as a massive mark for the legends and we all know what has happened once Hogan and Eric came into town. Her "stupidity" in emails is the stuff of legends and essentially it seem like TNA is still in operation in order for her to get a spinoff.
Who did it worse as a owner?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Oct 7, 2015 11:11:46 GMT -5
I'd say Dixie.
Heyman was a bad businessman sure, but he still kept his company going for years without the kind of money that Panda have given TNA.
Many of the same complaints can be made about bad pay, benefits, but when you have a company bankrolling you like that, there's not excuse not to have a solid base to work with.
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Post by jagilki on Oct 7, 2015 11:50:21 GMT -5
I actually think Dixie is a not ugly female version of Sloth from the Goonies.
Her family kept her in the basement of their house feeding her only a diet of baby ruth bars for most of her life, until Vince Russo stumbled across her while looking for treasure.
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 7, 2015 14:47:11 GMT -5
Well, yeah. By a whole friggin' lot. Like, how is this ever a question?
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 7, 2015 14:57:26 GMT -5
I wouldn't trust Heyman with the books or money. I wouldn't trust Dixie with anything. She would f*** up getting you as a glass of water.
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Post by moondoggie on Oct 7, 2015 15:20:20 GMT -5
Well she is letting her Knockouts compete against the males according to this upcoming World Title Series thing
And the whole Tigre Uno vs Gail Kim thing
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Oct 7, 2015 15:21:33 GMT -5
I wouldn't trust Heyman with the books or money. I wouldn't trust Dixie with anything. She would f*** up getting you as a glass of water. Exactly. Heyman, as long as you keep him away from the money, is a genius. Dixie could screw up a wet dream.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 7, 2015 16:40:28 GMT -5
No, Dixie insulting the station she's on happened by accident, Heyman did it deliberately at a time his company was bleeding money and desperately needed television exposure to survive. He also lied repeatedly to talent, promising money that he didn't have and that he was working on deals when he was off filming a movie, having his talent dashing their brains out for free. He also played the victim when talent he wasn't paying departed to work somewhere they would and the woe is me bullpoop persists to this day, oh if only WCW hadn't lured all his talent away by giving them money.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 7, 2015 17:00:17 GMT -5
It's not even close. Dixie, all day, every day.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Oct 7, 2015 17:00:23 GMT -5
No, Dixie insulting the station she's on happened by accident, Heyman did it deliberately at a time his company was bleeding money and desperately needed television exposure to survive. He also lied repeatedly to talent, promising money that he didn't have and that he was working on deals when he was off filming a movie, having his talent dashing their brains out for free. He also played the victim when talent he wasn't paying departed to work somewhere they would and the woe is me bullpoop persists to this day, oh if only WCW hadn't lured all his talent away by giving them money. Let's see, Dixie didn't tell none of her wrestlers about the status of Impact when it was on Spike and later Destination America. They had to find out from TMZ and other sites. When confronted by this, she played coy and told them not to believe the sheets. They hating on the company. Things are on the upside. Wrestlers went months without checks. Production staff went months without checks. People quit because they weren't paid. Bet the farm on a low tier network because of the appeal of a potential reality show instead of going to a cable network that most people have. Insult the intelligence of 2 cable networks and finding themselves homeless twice in a year. But Dixie is better than Heyman.
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Post by Starshine on Oct 7, 2015 17:43:11 GMT -5
Heyman may have bounced cheques, but he and ECW bred loyalty.
Dixie and TNA cannot say the same.
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Post by freeze Austin on Oct 7, 2015 18:11:03 GMT -5
You can't fairly evaluate them without taking into consideration the hands that each were dealt. Both have made major mistakes when it comes to talent relations and paying their employees, but for all his character faults, Heyman did far more with far less than Dixie has with her family dumping millions into TNA just so she could play dress up as a sassy Southern Belle business woman while making awful hiring decisions that helped to destroy her company. Not to mention all the television partnerships and other relationships that Dixie has burned "by mistake", which I guess is what she calls keeping Russo on board and straight up lying to Spike about it, followed by the whiny emails about Discovery America that were "accidentally" sent to them. Her business incompetence is truly mind-boggling.
I would've liked to of seen what Heyman could have done with a strong financial backer that handled the money while he just focused on the creative and talent scouting side. It very likely would've been amazing. SmackDown Six is the closest we'll ever get to seeing something like that, and it's a damn shame it'll never happen again.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Oct 7, 2015 18:12:35 GMT -5
You can't fairly evaluate them without taking into consideration the hands that each were dealt. Both have made major mistakes when it comes to talent relations and paying their employees, but for all his character faults, Heyman did far more with far less than Dixie has with her family dumping millions into TNA just so she could play dress up as a sassy Southern Belle business woman while making awful hiring decisions that helped to destroy her company. Not to mention all the television partnerships and other relationships that Dixie has burned "by mistake", which I guess is what she calls keeping Russo on board and straight up lying to Spike about it, followed by the whiny emails about Discovery America that were "accidentally" sent to them. Her business incompetence is truly mind-boggling. I would've liked to of seen what Heyman could have done with a strong financial backer that handled the money while he just focused on the creative and talent scouting side. It very likely would've been amazing. SmackDown Six is the closest we'll ever get to seeing something like that, and it's a damn shame it'll never happen again. I dunno, I think with the right promises, the right company could lure Heyman away to do his creative deal. He's made his money, I'd love to see what he could do off the leash.
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Post by chrom on Oct 7, 2015 18:19:14 GMT -5
Heyman wanted to create something new, Ditzy only wants to feed her ego and grandeur delusions of being a tv star
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Post by jagilki on Oct 7, 2015 18:58:28 GMT -5
Would Heymans bright idea towards improving sinking morale be to chew out the entire roster in front of a camera?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 7, 2015 19:28:28 GMT -5
You can't fairly evaluate them without taking into consideration the hands that each were dealt. Both have made major mistakes when it comes to talent relations and paying their employees, but for all his character faults, Heyman did far more with far less than Dixie has with her family dumping millions into TNA just so she could play dress up as a sassy Southern Belle business woman while making awful hiring decisions that helped to destroy her company. Not to mention all the television partnerships and other relationships that Dixie has burned "by mistake", which I guess is what she calls keeping Russo on board and straight up lying to Spike about it, followed by the whiny emails about Discovery America that were "accidentally" sent to them. Her business incompetence is truly mind-boggling. I would've liked to of seen what Heyman could have done with a strong financial backer that handled the money while he just focused on the creative and talent scouting side. It very likely would've been amazing. SmackDown Six is the closest we'll ever get to seeing something like that, and it's a damn shame it'll never happen again. Spike didn't give two shits about Russo. That one guy from Spike who Ether'd Russo said that he wasn't worth the dirt beneath his shoe to bother getting upset about.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 7, 2015 22:13:49 GMT -5
Heyman's a creative genius while Dixie can't even send an email without messing up. I'm going with Dixie being worse.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 7, 2015 22:20:36 GMT -5
I will point out that Heyman did receive help at times from Vince to keep the company going for longer than it would have otherwise, but it still doesn't seem to be to the level various entities have tried to help TNA.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Oct 7, 2015 23:26:03 GMT -5
You can't fairly evaluate them without taking into consideration the hands that each were dealt. Both have made major mistakes when it comes to talent relations and paying their employees, but for all his character faults, Heyman did far more with far less than Dixie has with her family dumping millions into TNA just so she could play dress up as a sassy Southern Belle business woman while making awful hiring decisions that helped to destroy her company. Not to mention all the television partnerships and other relationships that Dixie has burned "by mistake", which I guess is what she calls keeping Russo on board and straight up lying to Spike about it, followed by the whiny emails about Discovery America that were "accidentally" sent to them. Her business incompetence is truly mind-boggling. I would've liked to of seen what Heyman could have done with a strong financial backer that handled the money while he just focused on the creative and talent scouting side. It very likely would've been amazing. SmackDown Six is the closest we'll ever get to seeing something like that, and it's a damn shame it'll never happen again. Spike didn't give two shits about Russo. That one guy from Spike who Ether'd Russo said that he wasn't worth the dirt beneath his shoe to bother getting upset about. If they didn't care about Russo why did the executive took the time to single him out by name and insult him? If Russo wasn't detrimental to the relationship, the guy wouldn't even had mentioned him. If Russo wasn't a major problem, then why kept his employment hidden? And why did they fired him once it was revealed that he was working with them? A wrestling news site, not high on the totem pole, called the guy to confirm if the heat with Russo was real, the executive not only accepted to be interviewed but also destroyed Russo. Spike TV hated the guy, if he wasn't such a problem then the guy wouldn't have insulted him, f*** it he wouldn't give them a quote if that's the case. He got upset about Vince Russo.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 7, 2015 23:41:19 GMT -5
Hey-Man and She-Ra. Hmm.
Who will be man at arms? Given that whoever watched Bound for Glory can lay claim to Cringer.
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