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Post by Crimson on Dec 7, 2015 11:19:53 GMT -5
I'm talking about upstart games, movies, TV shows, cartoons, etc that introduced themselves to the world by immediately claiming how they were the next big thing, typically by calling out established names in their given genre and insinuating how much better they were... and then completely failing to set the world on fire, either through plain badness or just being unremarkable. Best example I can think of is the PS2-era Ty the Tasmanian Tiger. Super late to the mascot-with-attitude party, but nonetheless introduces himself with adverts implying he's beat up Spyro, Crash, and Sonic enough to have them in full-body bandages in hospital, with the TV commercial further implying he unplugs their life support. And anybody remember Ty at all in 2015? I don't even think the furry fandom does. In general, calling out your competitors in ads and trailers, especially when you're a completely unproven property, always ALWAYS seems to be a terrible idea. About five years ago there was racing game called Blur that used a similar marketting campaign. It was an arcade racer that used weapons and boosts just like Kart Racers, but it went out of it's way to insult Kart Racing games as being "kiddy" and that it was the next evolution of racers.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 7, 2015 11:24:04 GMT -5
I mentioned Too Human earlier but there were a bunch of things stating the were going to be the first of an epic series/trilogy/whatever that died immediately
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Post by lionheart21 on Dec 7, 2015 11:25:10 GMT -5
American Idol? Only Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood "made it." Everyone else found modest success at best. And as for the show itself, nobody's given a shit in a decade. Jennifer Hudson says hi.
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Post by Perpetual Nirvana on Dec 7, 2015 11:27:53 GMT -5
Any movie that blatantly sets up a sequel but never gets one.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Dec 7, 2015 13:41:44 GMT -5
Foodfight!
The director had a shit-ton of things planned for this. They actually produced plush toys (which were based on early designs that looked far better than the finished product but weren't in scale with one-another) and they apparently had plans for a web series, toys, cereals, a stage show and a freaking ice-skating show.
They got dozens of brands to sponsor the film and allow to include their mascots (even after about half of them dropped out), multiple famous actors to do voices (Charlie Sheen, Eva Longoria, Wayne Brady, Hilary Duff and Christopher Lloyd play major characters, with more in smaller roles and cameos). It was insane.
The result? A movie that came out ten years late, with blatantly unfinished visuals, went unbelievably over budget, bombed horribly, making only about 73 000 dollars on a budget estimated somewhere between 45 and 65 million dollars, was panned by critics and reached the pantheon of hilariously bad movies alongside all-time greats such as The Room, Birdemic and Troll 2.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 7, 2015 13:45:36 GMT -5
Foodfight!The director had a shit-ton of things planned for this. They actually produced plush toys (which were based on early designs that looked far better than the finished product but weren't in scale with one-another) and they apparently had plans for a web series, toys, cereals, a stage show and a freaking ice-skating show. They got dozens of brands to sponsor the film and allow to include their mascots (even after about half of them dropped out), multiple famous actors to do voices (Charlie Sheen, Eva Longoria, Wayne Brady, Hilary Duff and Christopher Lloyd play major characters, with more in smaller roles and cameos). It was insane. The result? A movie that came out ten years late, with blatantly unfinished visuals, went unbelievably over budget, bombed horribly, making only about 73 000 dollars on a budget estimated somewhere between 45 and 65 million dollars, was panned by critics and reached the pantheon of hilariously bad movies alongside all-time greats such as The Room, Birdemic and Troll 2. Not that there is any indication that this would have ever been good... but the hard drives containing most of the assets for the movies were allegedly stolen during development which would account to some of the problems like the lateness and unfinished visuals
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 7, 2015 13:49:20 GMT -5
Any movie that blatantly sets up a sequel but never gets one. The images of the English poster didn't want to load for me for some reason, which frankly works fine because the movie seemed like some cheap Mexican knock-off.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Dec 7, 2015 14:01:04 GMT -5
Foodfight!The director had a shit-ton of things planned for this. They actually produced plush toys (which were based on early designs that looked far better than the finished product but weren't in scale with one-another) and they apparently had plans for a web series, toys, cereals, a stage show and a freaking ice-skating show. They got dozens of brands to sponsor the film and allow to include their mascots (even after about half of them dropped out), multiple famous actors to do voices (Charlie Sheen, Eva Longoria, Wayne Brady, Hilary Duff and Christopher Lloyd play major characters, with more in smaller roles and cameos). It was insane. The result? A movie that came out ten years late, with blatantly unfinished visuals, went unbelievably over budget, bombed horribly, making only about 73 000 dollars on a budget estimated somewhere between 45 and 65 million dollars, was panned by critics and reached the pantheon of hilariously bad movies alongside all-time greats such as The Room, Birdemic and Troll 2. Not that there is any indication that this would have ever been good... but the hard drives containing most of the assets for the movies were allegedly stolen during development which would account to some of the problems like the lateness and unfinished visuals I still think it's fair to say that to expect a single movie whose entire reason for existing is product placement to be the foundation of a media empire was insane at best.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 7, 2015 14:02:39 GMT -5
Not that there is any indication that this would have ever been good... but the hard drives containing most of the assets for the movies were allegedly stolen during development which would account to some of the problems like the lateness and unfinished visuals I still think it's fair to say that to expect a single movie whose entire reason for existing is product placement to be the foundation of a media empire was insane at best. Also true... note I didn't say I expected it to be any good in it's original form (though the non-mocapped animation style would have solved some of it's issues as well...)
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 7, 2015 14:31:06 GMT -5
Neo Geo home systems. Sega might have took shots at Nintendo but SNK had ads with a sets of Brass Balls saying: "You need a pair of these to play the Neo Geo"
Well that and about 2 grand due to how pricey having basically the arcade game at home.
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 7, 2015 14:31:32 GMT -5
American Idol? Only Kelly Clarkson and Carrie Underwood "made it." Everyone else found modest success at best. And as for the show itself, nobody's given a shit in a decade. I don't think American Idol winners' lack of success is due to the show itself, though. That's probably more to do with the fact that the record label they sign with when they win is shitty.
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Post by Burst on Dec 7, 2015 15:02:31 GMT -5
Yeah, I want to say I heard that the reason it tended to be better to get 2nd or place high but not win American Idol, was because the winners were locked into a very restrictive contract that didn't really give them much creative or promotional freedom.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Dec 7, 2015 15:10:13 GMT -5
"Remo Williams: The Adventure Begins". A fun movie, but the producers wanted a franchise.
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Post by kidglov3s on Dec 7, 2015 15:10:42 GMT -5
YA cinema is littered with these.
Mortal Instruments, Beautiful Creatures, Lemony Snicket, Jumper, Golden Compass, Narnia, I Am Number Four, Cirque Du Freak, John Carter.
All of these were intended to singlehandedly put their studios in the black for a decade.
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Post by Brandon Walsh is Insane. on Dec 7, 2015 15:15:19 GMT -5
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Post by JDviant on Dec 7, 2015 16:04:44 GMT -5
Curt Shillings little video game project. Was supposed to start with Kingdom of Adamar(spelling?), then there was supposed to be this sprawling mmo. Salvatore and McFarlane (of Spawn fame) were working on it and it was supposed to be this huge story, etc. What we ended up with was an ok game and his company going under. Couldn't pay anyone who worked on it and eventually went back to mlb because he was broke. Kingdoms of Amular also had 3 different special editions - for a completely new and unproven property - costing $80, $200, and $275.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Dec 7, 2015 16:54:36 GMT -5
YA cinema is littered with these. Mortal Instruments, Beautiful Creatures, Lemony Snicket, Jumper, Golden Compass, Narnia, I Am Number Four, Cirque Du Freak, John Carter. All of these were intended to singlehandedly put their studios in the black for a decade. I would even put the Percy Jackson films in there too, look how long it took for the second to even get released
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 7, 2015 17:01:28 GMT -5
The X-Men Origins series....there was going to be a Magneto one too, then Fox remembered what happened with Wolverine.... Did the Magneto one snowball into First Class or were they entirely separate? Magneto's film became First Class. His story arc from First Class where he was hunting down Nazis and killing them was straight from the planned Magneto film.
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Post by Glitch on Dec 7, 2015 17:03:15 GMT -5
Several sitcoms. The name completely escapes me, but I remember Fox had a show in the mid 90s about two guys that they were literally advertising as the next Beavis & Butthead and Wayne & Garth.
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Post by 2coldMack is even more baffled on Dec 7, 2015 17:40:36 GMT -5
The "A Series of Unfortunate Events" movie stands out here, because the books are solid, but man, the studio or producers or whatever just didn't give a shiiiiiit.
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