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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 7, 2015 17:43:51 GMT -5
At least Pokémon knew there were sequels coming when it called its first movie "The First Movie" Doug should've ended when the Nickelodeon ended the series on their network. The Disney spinoff was not the greatest. Disney's Doug was aight.
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Post by Spider2024 on Dec 7, 2015 17:45:53 GMT -5
Several sitcoms. The name completely escapes me, but I remember Fox had a show in the mid 90s about two guys that they were literally advertising as the next Beavis & Butthead and Wayne & Garth. Was it "Too Something"?
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Post by bibboid on Dec 7, 2015 17:58:24 GMT -5
YA cinema is littered with these. Mortal Instruments, Beautiful Creatures, Lemony Snicket, Jumper, Golden Compass, Narnia, I Am Number Four, Cirque Du Freak, John Carter. All of these were intended to singlehandedly put their studios in the black for a decade. Good calls. I have to add "City of Ember" to this list.
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Post by Burst on Dec 7, 2015 18:10:59 GMT -5
You could pretty much add all of the "teenage dystopia" films.
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Post by KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!! on Dec 7, 2015 18:12:39 GMT -5
Several sitcoms. The name completely escapes me, but I remember Fox had a show in the mid 90s about two guys that they were literally advertising as the next Beavis & Butthead and Wayne & Garth. I think what you're talking about is Wild Oats. Here's the Wiki: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Oats_(TV_series)I remember in one episode the actors bragged about how most shows would show the mistakes at the end of the show. However, work on this one went so well that there were no mistakes. You have to appreciate the hubris in that.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Dec 7, 2015 18:32:53 GMT -5
sure is taking him a while to climb out of that f***ing hole.
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Post by tms on Dec 7, 2015 18:50:15 GMT -5
Neo Geo home systems. Sega might have took shots at Nintendo but SNK had ads with a sets of Brass Balls saying: "You need a pair of these to play the Neo Geo" Well that and about 2 grand due to how pricey having basically the arcade game at home. I'm not sure how a company like that went out of business just based on their profits alone given how costly their prices were and how few of their products they released (at least stateside). I owned a US home system and was in the collector's market for a couple years, and selling my stuff was one of the best decisions I ever made. The market for the system is insane, and it's all too easy to get swept up in the collection craze. Besides all of that, the quality for what you paid for just wasn't there. Manuals were in black and white except for the cover and back, the games were often censored, you were limited to 4 credits for 1 and 2 player before game overs, etc. The latter made playing Metal Slug games virtually impossible, and made playing fighting games with friends obnoxious (later games had versus mode). So glad I escaped that whole mess.
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Post by MrElijah on Dec 7, 2015 19:24:35 GMT -5
Neo Geo home systems. Sega might have took shots at Nintendo but SNK had ads with a sets of Brass Balls saying: "You need a pair of these to play the Neo Geo" Well that and about 2 grand due to how pricey having basically the arcade game at home. I'm not sure how a company like that went out of business just based on their profits alone given how costly their prices were and how few of their products they released (at least stateside). I owned a US home system and was in the collector's market for a couple years, and selling my stuff was one of the best decisions I ever made. The market for the system is insane, and it's all too easy to get swept up in the collection craze. Besides all of that, the quality for what you paid for just wasn't there. Manuals were in black and white except for the cover and back, the games were often censored, you were limited to 4 credits for 1 and 2 player before game overs, etc. The latter made playing Metal Slug games virtually impossible, and made playing fighting games with friends obnoxious (later games had versus mode). So glad I escaped that whole mess. I'm amazed that the PSN ports of some SNK games keep that 4 credits thing.
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Post by tms on Dec 7, 2015 19:53:49 GMT -5
I'm not sure how a company like that went out of business just based on their profits alone given how costly their prices were and how few of their products they released (at least stateside). I owned a US home system and was in the collector's market for a couple years, and selling my stuff was one of the best decisions I ever made. The market for the system is insane, and it's all too easy to get swept up in the collection craze. Besides all of that, the quality for what you paid for just wasn't there. Manuals were in black and white except for the cover and back, the games were often censored, you were limited to 4 credits for 1 and 2 player before game overs, etc. The latter made playing Metal Slug games virtually impossible, and made playing fighting games with friends obnoxious (later games had versus mode). So glad I escaped that whole mess. I'm amazed that the PSN ports of some SNK games keep that 4 credits thing. The PS2 compilations of Samurai Shodown, Fatal Fury, Art of Fighting, and World Heroes are easily the best ways to enjoy those titles at home, for any system (including Neo-Geo). There may have been ways to toggle infinite credits in the same way censored parts (like blood) could be set to their MVS defaults, but it never should have been set to 4 to begin with. Some fighting games are obnoxiously hard (Art of Fighting 2 especially) and beating them with 10 credits on the easiest setting is a huge feat.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Dec 7, 2015 19:54:29 GMT -5
The Amazing Spider-Man movies were the biggest recent example of this. Sony was gonna make a Sinister Six movie, a Spider-Man 2099 movie, a Black Cat movie, a Spider-Gwen movie, an Aunt May movie, and then....none of that.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 7, 2015 21:26:21 GMT -5
YA cinema is littered with these. Mortal Instruments, Beautiful Creatures, Lemony Snicket, Jumper, Golden Compass, Narnia, I Am Number Four, Cirque Du Freak, John Carter. All of these were intended to singlehandedly put their studios in the black for a decade. Eragon too. I think the issue with a lot of those movies are just there wasn't enough focus on one thing. I remember enjoying Golden Compass as a kid but there were about 4 different sub plots that ook huge parts of the movie. Eragon also had a lot of "what the hell is going on?" moments in it. Also, if you listen to the creator, there were high hopes for Ooogieloves
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 7, 2015 22:46:03 GMT -5
Speaking of YA art, didn't they pay some unknown like, huge money thinking they were going to produce the next Harry Potter, and it became nothing?
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Post by wisdomwizard on Dec 7, 2015 22:59:54 GMT -5
This f***ing game. I was so hype for it as a kid, got it for Christmas, really enjoyed it, and then it ends on a cliff hanger. Considering that was 12 years ago, I don't think I'm getting a sequel. Unless they go really meta with it and bring it out next year. I'll never forget how X-Play (back when it was awesome before Comcast bought out TechTV for G4) dedicated an entire episode to this when it was even out just yet, and then how humiliated they were when the game turned out to be mediocre. Morgan Webb even referenced how embarrassing that was for them in a different episode.
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Post by BorneAgain on Dec 7, 2015 23:02:08 GMT -5
Star Wars? Yeah, The Force Awakens is going to make a lot of money, but if people end up hating it, or, realistically, people think it's just okay, Episode 8 and all the spin-off films are going to be a hard sell. Spin-offs maybe, but between merchandising and tie ins, Star Wars films pay for themselves before the movies even come out. They might adjust the scale of certain films (like Lucas was planning on doing to the first sequel if the 1977 release was only a modest hit), but at this point, TFA just needs to be seen as better than the prequels for enough people to think "Hey Star Wars is back!"
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 7, 2015 23:20:12 GMT -5
Star Wars? Yeah, The Force Awakens is going to make a lot of money, but if people end up hating it, or, realistically, people think it's just okay, Episode 8 and all the spin-off films are going to be a hard sell. The prequels were massive financial successes despite the mountains of negative feedback. I think it'll take a run of absolute stinkers that make Phantom Menace look like Empire Strikes Back before they start to stumble.
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Post by RI Richmark on Dec 8, 2015 0:14:37 GMT -5
4 pages and I'm the first one to bring this up?
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Post by Joe Neglia on Dec 8, 2015 0:49:10 GMT -5
YA cinema is littered with these. Mortal Instruments, Beautiful Creatures, Lemony Snicket, Jumper, Golden Compass, Narnia, I Am Number Four, Cirque Du Freak, John Carter. All of these were intended to singlehandedly put their studios in the black for a decade. Good calls. I have to add "City of Ember" to this list. And Ender's Game, Ramona, Eragon, Alex Rider, Spiderwick Chronicles, Beastly, the Seeker, Inkheart, Vampire Academy and very likely the Giver. One slight correction: John Carter shouldn't be part of that particular list. Though it bombed in quite spectacular fashion, it was not part of the YA flood; rather, it's based on 1930's Sci-Fi pulp novels. You could pretty much add all of the "teenage dystopia" films. Well, except that really big one that just wrapped up.
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Post by ToyfareMark on Dec 8, 2015 1:11:24 GMT -5
4 pages and I'm the first one to bring this up? NBC is just as responsible for this as Vince is.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Dec 8, 2015 1:15:14 GMT -5
The Amazing Spider-Man movies were the biggest recent example of this. Sony was gonna make a Sinister Six movie, a Spider-Man 2099 movie, a Black Cat movie, a Spider-Gwen movie, an Aunt May movie, and then....none of that. As soon as I heard they were planning an Aunt May movie, I thought someone had lost their f***ing minds.
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Post by kidglov3s on Dec 8, 2015 1:30:22 GMT -5
Good calls. I have to add "City of Ember" to this list. And Ender's Game, Ramona, Eragon, Alex Rider, Spiderwick Chronicles, Beastly, the Seeker, Inkheart, Vampire Academy and very likely the Giver. We can agree to disagree on John Carter (tbh it fits more nicely with the Disney Questionable Live Action Movie They Put Way Too Much Money Into lot along with Lone Ranger and Tomorrowland, but you KNOW they wanted a franchise there), but oh man The Giver, a movie I particularly admire, definitely fits into the YA franchise dud lot.
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