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Post by The Spelunker! on Jan 20, 2016 16:49:54 GMT -5
I work with two of them. I wish there were stronger insults based on the amount of salt spilled when I get people to casually call them that.
To be fair, I only do it because it riles them up. People need to learn to stop giving simple words power over them. Who cares if you spend all day talking about anime and random Japanese games you've imported. It's your life, don't give others power over you. Being happy with yourself is way more important than the random goofy words people might attribute to you.
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Post by Legion on Jan 20, 2016 17:33:35 GMT -5
No. Anime obsession is annoying. I say this as a man that has watched plenty. It's a perfectly viable medium. The Japanese have produced plenty of enjoyable cartoon programs. But......... there is a line, I think. Like, if you're sitting around in a kimono with your hair in a topknot eating soba noodles and watching some thing about super cute twelve year old girls, you might need to re-evaluate. I dont care if you sit around in the kimono with bad hair and noodles, but if you're watching stuff about kids, especially the sexualised way Japan tends to animate their kids (school girls), you will get and rightly deserve all the teasing the world can muster. Sexualising children is wrong. The Japanese should know better, and anyone outside Japan doesnt even have the 'it's out culture' excuse. It's just pervy. Pervy and wrong.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 20, 2016 17:48:25 GMT -5
I work with two of them. I wish there were stronger insults based on the amount of salt spilled when I get people to casually call them that. To be fair, I only do it because it riles them up. People need to learn to stop giving simple words power over them. Who cares if you spend all day talking about anime and random Japanese games you've imported. It's your life, don't give others power over you. Being happy with yourself is way more important than the random goofy words people might attribute to you. Why would you want to rile them up in the first place? I don't think telling people to get a thicker skin is the answer, because terms like "weeaboo" are meant to make people feel bad about something they're passionate about. I hope this doesn't look like I'm treating it as some sort of national outrage or that it's this awful slur, but I don't see what there is to gain by goading anime fanboys/fangirls like that.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Jan 20, 2016 17:53:24 GMT -5
No. Anime obsession is annoying. I say this as a man that has watched plenty. It's a perfectly viable medium. The Japanese have produced plenty of enjoyable cartoon programs. But......... there is a line, I think. Like, if you're sitting around in a kimono with your hair in a topknot eating soba noodles and watching some thing about super cute twelve year old girls, you might need to re-evaluate. I dont care if you sit around in the kimono with bad hair and noodles, but if you're watching stuff about kids, especially the sexualised way Japan tends to animate their kids (school girls), you will get and rightly deserve all the teasing the world can muster. Sexualising children is wrong. The Japanese should know better, and anyone outside Japan doesnt even have the 'it's out culture' excuse. It's just pervy. Pervy and wrong. I wasn't talking about those people in my original post. I'm complaining about people teasing others with "weeaboo" for liking anime or just having a legit fascination with Japanese culture.
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Post by Raskovnik on Jan 20, 2016 17:58:31 GMT -5
No. Anime obsession is annoying. I say this as a man that has watched plenty. It's a perfectly viable medium. The Japanese have produced plenty of enjoyable cartoon programs. But......... there is a line, I think. Like, if you're sitting around in a kimono with your hair in a topknot eating soba noodles and watching some thing about super cute twelve year old girls, you might need to re-evaluate. I dont care if you sit around in the kimono with bad hair and noodles, but if you're watching stuff about kids, especially the sexualised way Japan tends to animate their kids (school girls), you will get and rightly deserve all the teasing the world can muster. Sexualising children is wrong. The Japanese should know better, and anyone outside Japan doesnt even have the 'it's out culture' excuse. It's just pervy. Pervy and wrong. The thing that irritates me about that is my family is Japanese, from Japan Japanese. It's not really their culture either. I've asked them about it. In mainstream Japan those things and people are just as looked down on. They're a little more playful about certain things and have some different norms, but nothing so extreme as people have been led to believe. Anime is part of the pop culture but it's like conflating a popular cartoon such as SpongeBob with American culture. It's mostly just to pander to the otaku audience because that's who buys most of that shit and that's how they make their money. Otaku is not a good word nor does it carry a good connotation despite how people here wear it as a badge of honor. The only people making the "It's their culture" argument are people who live elsewhere and don't know shit, crying censorship over the breast sliders and skimpy outfits for their little girl games being changed because it doesn't fly here. It's maddening. There are so many twisted, weird misconceptions that exist about Japan mixed in with actual and exaggerated truth about other things that I'm honestly curious if their have their own perception of the entire population and culture of America based on only reading cherrypicked articles about Florida and watching poorly fansubbed rips of Ed Edd n Eddy.
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Post by AwamoriRock on Jan 20, 2016 18:07:53 GMT -5
It's an applicable term, so no it's not just going to go away. You can't just wish away a word that has a pretty applicable use, but the way I am reading this, you are more upset with different ways it is being used than the word itself.
I live in Japan. I often encounter people from other countries here that aren't simply fascinated with Japanese culture or elements of it, but fascinated with things and like them simply because those things are Japanese. They refuse to look at things on a case by case basis and evaluate Japan as a normal country just like any other, and instead put it on a pedestal with no faults and rave about how much better things are than wherever they are from. Some of the basis for these thoughts is fine--nobody should be vilified for their fandom or likes/dislikes, but the lines get blurred with extreme people and it approaches a weird worship and vaguely racist way of closing minds. I'm pretty sure this is where the term came from? I always thought it was that comic with the weeaboo paddling, but I'm fairly sure that weaboo is supposed to refer to people who love Japanese things simply for being Japanese. If you're using it to mean "haha you like anime and have no dick", well, then that's just being a dick.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Jan 20, 2016 18:15:00 GMT -5
I work with two of them. I wish there were stronger insults based on the amount of salt spilled when I get people to casually call them that. To be fair, I only do it because it riles them up. People need to learn to stop giving simple words power over them. Who cares if you spend all day talking about anime and random Japanese games you've imported. It's your life, don't give others power over you. Being happy with yourself is way more important than the random goofy words people might attribute to you. Why would you want to rile them up in the first place? I don't think telling people to get a thicker skin is the answer, because terms like "weeaboo" are meant to make people feel bad about something they're passionate about. I hope this doesn't look like I'm treating it as some sort of national outrage or that it's this awful slur, but I don't see what there is to gain by goading anime fanboys/fangirls like that. Humor value, mostly. Watching them go off over something so minor is one of those things everyone at work enjoys because those guys are so obnoxious and lazy. Also, it's a pretty good way to get them to leave you alone. If you don't they follow you around like a lost puppy rather than doing their jobs. Not good person reasons, but honest ones. Worst thing is pretty much everyone in my department loves anime and still can't stand these two for how over the top they are. It gets to the point of other people having emotional breakdowns and flipping out over them every few weeks.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Jan 20, 2016 18:17:26 GMT -5
Or maybe people should stop trying to act Japanese.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 20, 2016 18:20:18 GMT -5
I do tease one of my friends about being Weeaboo Prime because she went to Japan on study abroad only to transfer to college there, marry a Japanese guy, and become completely fluent in the language. But it's in good fun.
And yes, the term originally came from that Perry Bible Fellowship comic. I also have no idea how it became the go-to word for obnoxious otaku.
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Post by Glitch on Jan 20, 2016 18:26:18 GMT -5
The major problem is that younger fans have taken the word weeboo, and use to mean anybody who really likes anime.
Weeboo originally meant stupid fans who knew jackshit about japanese culture, and liked things only because they were japanese(even if it sucked). I remember these type of anime fans were originally just referred to as newbs.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Jan 20, 2016 18:27:40 GMT -5
It's pretty much the western equivalent of otaku. You have to understand that Otaku in Japan are viewed as manchildren that have no life who are obsessive about anime. Since Otaku is a kind of positive term in the west, Weeaboo is applied to japanophiles or those who think that "glorious nippon" can do no wrong and that their culture is superiour and all that junk.
It's not just about liking anime. I mean I love One Punch Man, Cowboy Bebop & Cromartie High School and I adore some shows like Gaki no Tsukai & Iron Chef but I don't see them as the be all end all of media and I don't want to be Japanese because I like some of their stuff.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jan 20, 2016 19:42:38 GMT -5
And yes, the term originally came from that Perry Bible Fellowship comic. I also have no idea how it became the go-to word for obnoxious otaku. THANK YOU! Finally got an answer to that... doesn't make any damned sense but at least now I know... and knowing is half the battle...
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 20:16:10 GMT -5
The major problem is that younger fans have taken the word weeboo, and use to mean anybody who really likes anime. Weeboo originally meant stupid fans who knew jackshit about japanese culture, and liked things only because they were japanese(even if it sucked). I remember these type of anime fans were originally just referred to as newbs. I think this is a great point, because I feel this is pretty much who we are all talking about. It's not necessarily obsessive fandom that's the issue here. Hell, we all post on a big time 'rasslin forum in our off time. No, it's more just people that like Japanese things because...... Japan. Most folks hit a point in life where they discover other cultures and perhaps become enamored with them for a time, but for a time, yeah? Some would rather seppuku than engage in any other form of anything. They don't discern. It's just weird.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2016 20:33:56 GMT -5
I do tease one of my friends about being Weeaboo Prime because she went to Japan on study abroad only to transfer to college there, marry a Japanese guy, and become completely fluent in the language. But it's in good fun. And yes, the term originally came from that Perry Bible Fellowship comic. I also have no idea how it became the go-to word for obnoxious otaku. I think what happened is that 4chan made it a censor for "wapanese", and the rest is history
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Post by Glitch on Jan 20, 2016 21:33:06 GMT -5
And yes, the term originally came from that Perry Bible Fellowship comic. I also have no idea how it became the go-to word for obnoxious otaku. Thank goodness. I originally thought it came from Megatokyo as most people spouted. I don't why I didn't look up the origin before.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 20, 2016 22:25:27 GMT -5
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Post by ShaolinHandLock on Jan 20, 2016 23:16:06 GMT -5
Reading this thread makes me want to give up on life entirely.
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Post by tms on Jan 20, 2016 23:37:40 GMT -5
Reading this thread makes me want to give up on life entirely. We all boo that decision!
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Post by Raskovnik on Jan 20, 2016 23:53:09 GMT -5
Reading this thread makes me want to give up on life entirely. You say that about everything, haha. Gee whiz. I'm not trying to make light of it but really, there's literally nothing harsh that's been said here concerning anyone reasonable. It's a thread started by a former moderator who I'm sure would make mention if stuff was getting way too off track or if anything uncalled for has been said, not to mention with how good the active moderation team in general is they would surely nip things in the bud if things were actually bad. Do you take issue with anything in particular that has been said?
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Post by Malcolm on Jan 21, 2016 0:11:59 GMT -5
No. Anime obsession is annoying. I say this as a man that has watched plenty. It's a perfectly viable medium. The Japanese have produced plenty of enjoyable cartoon programs. But......... there is a line, I think. Like, if you're sitting around in a kimono with your hair in a topknot eating soba noodles and watching some thing about super cute twelve year old girls, you might need to re-evaluate. I dont care if you sit around in the kimono with bad hair and noodles, but if you're watching stuff about kids, especially the sexualised way Japan tends to animate their kids (school girls), you will get and rightly deserve all the teasing the world can muster. Sexualising children is wrong. The Japanese should know better, and anyone outside Japan doesnt even have the 'it's out culture' excuse. It's just pervy. Pervy and wrong. Won't somebody please think of the (fictional) children? Just kidding, of course. I'm not condoning lolicon(that's just wrong), but this sounds like a bit of a generalization since not all anime starring kids is animated in a pervy manner(at least I hope not). I (personally) don't think it's fair to tease and label someone a pedophile just for watching Lucky Star.
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