FinalGwen
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 1, 2016 13:09:36 GMT -5
I fully support cutting into the profits of those who believe Sonic Adventure 2 was good. (Actually, this is pretty awful of Google and Youtube, and it's so vague that pretty much anything could be demonetised, thus driving people away. But yes, saying that levels like Mad Space belonged in a Sonic game is a controversial topic.  ) |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 1, 2016 13:24:00 GMT -5
Good luck
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:35:45 GMT -5
 Google fighting the real battles here. No matter what, Sonic always get involved when it comes to stupidity. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2016 13:36:47 GMT -5
He's got a right to exist, I just felt like mentioning it. Just because you feel like it, shouldn't mean you should mention it. |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 1, 2016 13:45:33 GMT -5
Google fighting the real battles here. No matter what, Sonic always get involved when it comes to stupidity. Can we please put this "lolSonic" bullcrap to rest already? Jesus. |
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Post by cageking666 on Sept 1, 2016 14:04:56 GMT -5
RIP DashieGames/Jacksepticeye  |
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Sept 1, 2016 14:13:06 GMT -5
I wonder if this is in regards to sexual content, rather than swearing, but Google's always been pretty incompetent in how it handles a lot of stuff with youtube. I looked for the full set of guidelines and I just gave them a read through, and on top of swearing, these are the video topics that, if uploaded, are at risk of being deemed inappropriate: . Anything that shows partial nudity, and/or has sexual humor within the video. . Anything that is excessively violent, including footage of someone suffering a serious injury, and/ or footage or discussion of violent extremism. . Any video that promotes the selling, usage, or abuse of drugs, legal or illegal. . Any video that contains imagery and/or discussion of : Past or ongoing wars, politics, natural disasters, or tragedies. That is just f'ing ridiculous. Partial nudity? That's rather vague, innit? So what, if you have a girl in short shorts and tank top or a guy in a Chippendale outfit, it's a no-go? No sexual humour? Seriously? You're not even allowed to joke about dicks and tits on YouTube any more (or at least not if you want to make money)? "Excessively violent" stuff? It makes sense for real footage but does that include fictional violence? Because if so it'll make it awkward for movie studios or game developers to put clip of their projects targetting an older audience on YouTube for promotion (the same goes for the sexual content, come to think of it). Smart move, YouTube! "Any video that promotes the selling, usage, or abuse of drugs, legal or illegal"?! Even legal drugs aren't allowed?! What sense does that make? Are the advertisers from Saudi Arabia or something? So what, if someone jokes about smoking weed or has a beer on screen or even pretends to have a beer on screen they can risk having their channel taken down? And people can't even discuss wars, politics, disasters or tragedies?! Guess news channels can kiss their ass goodbye, then. And again, film and game producers better not be promoting anything occuring in the real world. Does... does YouTube even realize what their biggest channels are? What draws the viewers in? It's like they don't understand that they need people to upload videos for them to have videos to put ads on. And I know they're not making that much money so I can understand wanting to cut down on the amount of channels they pay but they keep finding the most asinine ways to do things possible, especially if it's the advertisers who now decide what content is and isn't okay, because Heaven forbid that one damn thing is society isn't dictate by faceless corporations. Meanwhile they still won't do shit about fraudulent copyright claims. Oh no, we have to deal with the important shit first, meaning what out sugar daddies want. Man, I can only hope Patreon becomes a bigger thing. I'd rather pay a subscription fee and support people directly and grant them more freedom than have YouTube's technically free but watered-down stuff. Let me guess... those stupid prank channels or the channels that encourages it's fanbase to bully others will somehow still be around. Hey, they're not doing anything as horrifying as discussing WW2 or having consensual partial nudity. Not to be a dick, but their site their rules. Does it suck? Ya. But it is what it is, nothing we can or should do about it. If they wanna switch to all gospel music videos only tomorrow, then they're free to do so. Why do people think that's a legitimate argument? First, just because it's their site doesn't mean they can do anything they want without repercussion. When you're a public institution, you're working for the public. Your job is to appeal to the public, not to force shit down its throat and hope they don't go somewhere else. Second, that has nothing to do with what people are talking about. People are saying that it's a terrible change to their product. The fact that YouTube is allowed to make these changes is completely irrelevant. Like, here's this argument in a nutshell: "These people are assholes." "But they're within their rights!" "Yeah, and they're still assholes." Google fighting the real battles here. Boy I sure am glad this system isn't overkill or being abused at all. |
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Sept 1, 2016 14:29:32 GMT -5
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lodirulz
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Post by lodirulz on Sept 1, 2016 14:56:29 GMT -5
*Waits for the inevitable Grade A Under A video where he eats Youtube up and calls them an ass cream sundae*
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Post by xCompackx on Sept 1, 2016 15:01:33 GMT -5
Are advertisers getting upset with the videos/channels their ads are supporting? I wouldn't have thought they'd care as long as their ads get played.
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Post by Shai on Sept 1, 2016 15:06:57 GMT -5
If they do this my favorite 2 YouTubers are history. My favorite is AlphaOmegaSin, who is going to bust a blood vessel over this by the way. I also love AngryJoe, both drop f bombs all the time.
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Post by Dub H on Sept 1, 2016 15:08:15 GMT -5
Are advertisers getting upset with the videos/channels their ads are supporting? I wouldn't have thought they'd care as long as their ads get played. No,but they have nothing better to do, so they try to fix what is not broken. |
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wisdomwizard
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 1, 2016 15:23:39 GMT -5
Was going to say something else, but Snakebite already saved me a post. I fully agree with him that YouTube does not have a moral right to censorship. You can argue they have a legal one, but fact is YouTube is supposed to be a public service and considering what happened to TYT, even Hollywood should be very concerned about this.
If they do this my favorite 2 YouTubers are history. My favorite is AlphaOmegaSin, who is going to bust a blood vessel over this by the way. I also love AngryJoe, both drop f bombs all the time. Don't watch Angry Joe very often, but I imagine he's not going to take this mess lying down either. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 1, 2016 15:26:24 GMT -5
Well they're not really working'for the public' inasmuch as they are a business. So in that sense they can run their business how they like. Doesn't mean consumers can't then tune out and the business tank though
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 1, 2016 15:42:50 GMT -5
Yeah, stupid as this all is, YouTube is under no compunction whatsoever to operate in a way that we'd like them to; it's a private entity, not a public trust, so it's going to do whatever it deems necessary to raise its revenues and profits, even if it's at the expense of some of its better content. Frankly, I wouldn't be shocked if this was a push toward having everybody buy YouTube Red, though I can't say there's any direct evidence of that. The public does have the power to make it clear that YouTube is acting in an unacceptable manner that the public will refuse to support, but it's tough to find a platform out there with the ease of operation and access that YouTube has. It'd be a project to get a large scale move going, though that may wind up being the right thing to do. He's got a right to exist, I just felt like mentioning it. Just because you feel like it, shouldn't mean you should mention it. He shouldn't say he dislikes a channel? |
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Sept 1, 2016 15:48:03 GMT -5
Yeah, stupid as this all is, YouTube is under no compunction whatsoever to operate in a way that we'd like them to; it's a private entity, not a public trust, so it's going to do whatever it deems necessary to raise its revenues and profits, even if it's at the expense of some of its better content. Frankly, I wouldn't be shocked if this was a push toward having everybody buy YouTube Red, though I can't say there's any direct evidence of that. The public does have the power to make it clear that YouTube is acting in an unacceptable manner that the public will refuse to support, but it's tough to find a platform out there with the ease of operation and access that YouTube has. It'd be a project to get a large scale move going, though that may wind up being the right thing to do. Just because you feel like it, shouldn't mean you should mention it. He shouldn't say he dislikes a channel? And I'll say it again, because I have the right. I think AlphaOmegaSin sucks. Likewise, I will respect your right to knock the Sonic franchise. And we can leave it at that. |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 1, 2016 16:05:15 GMT -5
Yeah, stupid as this all is, YouTube is under no compunction whatsoever to operate in a way that we'd like them to; it's a private entity, not a public trust, so it's going to do whatever it deems necessary to raise its revenues and profits, even if it's at the expense of some of its better content. Frankly, I wouldn't be shocked if this was a push toward having everybody buy YouTube Red, though I can't say there's any direct evidence of that. The public does have the power to make it clear that YouTube is acting in an unacceptable manner that the public will refuse to support, but it's tough to find a platform out there with the ease of operation and access that YouTube has. It'd be a project to get a large scale move going, though that may wind up being the right thing to do. Just because you feel like it, shouldn't mean you should mention it. He shouldn't say he dislikes a channel? Eeeh,there is a difference between wishing a Channel is closed and thinking it is bad. I still think eh is allowed to say both thought |
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Post by Dub H on Sept 1, 2016 16:06:45 GMT -5
I fully support cutting into the profits of those who believe Sonic Adventure 2 was good. (Actually, this is pretty awful of Google and Youtube, and it's so vague that pretty much anything could be demonetised, thus driving people away. But yes, saying that levels like Mad Space belonged in a Sonic game is a controversial topic. ) You are wishing for a throwdown my friend. You and me,FAN Strong Style. |
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 1, 2016 16:06:59 GMT -5
And #YouTubeIsOverParty is trending on Twitter.
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Post by Shai on Sept 1, 2016 16:26:46 GMT -5
Okay now that I've looked at the kind of videos that they are doing this to I'm pissed. There doing it to a lot of mental health type stuff and that f***ing bothers the shit outta me. Boogie had all his suicide prevention videos demonetized today. WTF?! So helping people with Mental illnesses isn't cool now?! Why do I feel like Google is using this to get "unsavory " subjects off YouTube? I thought Youtube was supposed to be a platform for freedom of speech and ideas?
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