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Post by Evilution E5150 on Oct 10, 2017 18:14:46 GMT -5
Terry Crews is tweeting about the time a Hollywood exec groped him. And also talking about why people wait before they make accusations. As sad as it is to say, now that a guy is talking about it, people are more likely to listen. How f***ed do you have to be to try and sexually assault Crews and be convinced not only that you can get away with it but that he wont murder you with one punch. f***ing hell
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Post by Catalanotto on Oct 10, 2017 18:33:35 GMT -5
I always find it funny how everyone comes out of the woodwork with allegations once someone else says something.
I mean, really, some of these things happened so long ago, how do you just decide now to reveal it once someone else has said it? Why not say it when it happens so others don't have to go through the same abuse? I get it, people want jobs, but, damn, especially when it comes to rape, if that did happen, how the hell do you let a rapist get away with it? Sounds more and more like some just want more $$$, especially when they haven't done much in the business for a while.
Not saying it can't be true, just always silly when suddenly 400 people have a complaint.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 10, 2017 18:55:16 GMT -5
Terry Crews is tweeting about the time a Hollywood exec groped him. And also talking about why people wait before they make accusations. As sad as it is to say, now that a guy is talking about it, people are more likely to listen. How f***ed do you have to be to try and sexually assault Crews and be convinced not only that you can get away with it but that he wont murder you with one punch. f***ing hell That's the scary part, these guys often can get away with it. That's how bulletproof a lot of these guys are.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 10, 2017 18:59:13 GMT -5
I always find it funny how everyone comes out of the woodwork with allegations once someone else says something. I mean, really, some of these things happened so long ago, how do you just decide now to reveal it once someone else has said it? Why not say it when it happens so others don't have to go through the same abuse? I get it, people want jobs, but, damn, especially when it comes to rape, if that did happen, how the hell do you let a rapist get away with it? Sounds more and more like some just want more $$$, especially when they haven't done much in the business for a while. Not saying it can't be true, just always silly when suddenly 400 people have a complaint. Did you even read the thread? I'm not trying to be rude, but people explained, in detail, what prevents people from talking. I also am going to go out on a limb and say Angelina Jolie and Gwyneth Paltrow don't need a payout. Like even if you think that's true of Ashley Judd and Rose McGowan, do you think that's a plausible reason for the others?
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Post by BorneAgain on Oct 10, 2017 19:03:45 GMT -5
Curious if this'll have a domino effect on other accusations and allegations in the business.
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Post by Heartbreaker on Oct 10, 2017 19:23:05 GMT -5
Hollywood is shady, shocking.
Hopefully one day, somebody finally speaks up about the pedophile rings going on in Hollywood.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 10, 2017 19:23:28 GMT -5
I always find it funny how everyone comes out of the woodwork with allegations once someone else says something. I mean, really, some of these things happened so long ago, how do you just decide now to reveal it once someone else has said it? Why not say it when it happens so others don't have to go through the same abuse? I get it, people want jobs, but, damn, especially when it comes to rape, if that did happen, how the hell do you let a rapist get away with it? Sounds more and more like some just want more $$$, especially when they haven't done much in the business for a while.Not saying it can't be true, just always silly when suddenly 400 people have a complaint. It's possible they haven't done anything in the business for a while because they turned him down and he used his influence to blacklist them.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 10, 2017 19:42:22 GMT -5
Hollywood is shady, shocking. Hopefully one day, somebody finally speaks up about the pedophile rings going on in Hollywood. Feldman's spoken up and Elijah Wood basically said he managed to avoid danger due to being kept from parties by his parents, but it's probably going to take more momentum to crack that shell, which is depressing.
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Post by Catalanotto on Oct 10, 2017 19:58:25 GMT -5
I always find it funny how everyone comes out of the woodwork with allegations once someone else says something. I mean, really, some of these things happened so long ago, how do you just decide now to reveal it once someone else has said it? Why not say it when it happens so others don't have to go through the same abuse? I get it, people want jobs, but, damn, especially when it comes to rape, if that did happen, how the hell do you let a rapist get away with it? Sounds more and more like some just want more $$$, especially when they haven't done much in the business for a while. Not saying it can't be true, just always silly when suddenly 400 people have a complaint. Did you even read the thread? I'm not trying to be rude, but people explained, in detail, what prevents people from talking. I also am going to go out on a limb and say Angelina Jolie and Gwyneth Paltrow don't need a payout. Like even if you think that's true of Ashley Judd and Rose McGowan, do you think that's a plausible reason for the others? No, I didn't, I saw the thread title and responded, as I have seen articles on this the last few days. Apologies if I have not kept up on all the details, like I suppose most people here have. I got bits and pieces. I don't find anything an 'excuse' for not telling people that this dude sexually assaulted them, I just don't. It's cool if they find their own reasons, it's up to them what they choose to do with the information, I just don't think holding back this kind of information is something anyone should do. If he is guilty (seems to be pointing that way), other people were assaulted because no one said anything. That's just my two cents (don't really care who agrees or not). I am just speaking from what I would personally do, I guess. I don't care what anyone would think of me, or if I could find work in the business the next day, I would rather be 'that person' who says something than keep quiet. Everyone is different, and they chose to do what they chose to do, I just wouldn't do it myself. Kudos to whoever did speak up, finally, and, I hope all accounts are true ones, because there are always dollar signs in someone's eyes (not everyone's, and, no, I wasn't referring to the big stars thinking this, I thought I read there were other people who weren't as big, I guess not). A million news sources with different information, it can be hard to know what is accurate and not.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 10, 2017 20:28:58 GMT -5
How f***ed do you have to be to try and sexually assault Crews and be convinced not only that you can get away with it but that he wont murder you with one punch. f***ing hell That's the scary part, these guys often can get away with it. That's how bulletproof a lot of these guys are. I mean... Weinstein was a top producer in Hollywood... he could have literally killed people's careers on a whim if he wanted to.
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Post by Mr PONYMANIA Mr Jenzie on Oct 10, 2017 20:45:54 GMT -5
utterly overblown nonsense the LOT OF IT!
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Post by Cyno on Oct 10, 2017 20:48:08 GMT -5
Did you even read the thread? I'm not trying to be rude, but people explained, in detail, what prevents people from talking. I also am going to go out on a limb and say Angelina Jolie and Gwyneth Paltrow don't need a payout. Like even if you think that's true of Ashley Judd and Rose McGowan, do you think that's a plausible reason for the others? No, I didn't, I saw the thread title and responded, as I have seen articles on this the last few days. Apologies if I have not kept up on all the details, like I suppose most people here have. I got bits and pieces. I don't find anything an 'excuse' for not telling people that this dude sexually assaulted them, I just don't. It's cool if they find their own reasons, it's up to them what they choose to do with the information, I just don't think holding back this kind of information is something anyone should do. If he is guilty (seems to be pointing that way), other people were assaulted because no one said anything. That's just my two cents (don't really care who agrees or not). I am just speaking from what I would personally do, I guess. I don't care what anyone would think of me, or if I could find work in the business the next day, I would rather be 'that person' who says something than keep quiet. Everyone is different, and they chose to do what they chose to do, I just wouldn't do it myself. Kudos to whoever did speak up, finally, and, I hope all accounts are true ones, because there are always dollar signs in someone's eyes (not everyone's, and, no, I wasn't referring to the big stars thinking this, I thought I read there were other people who weren't as big, I guess not). A million news sources with different information, it can be hard to know what is accurate and not. And that's a great approach in this fantasy world where rapists and sexual predators are always held responsible for their actions and imprisoned without the victims having to worry about any backlash from coming forward. Unfortunately, this is far from the case in the real world.
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Post by Catalanotto on Oct 10, 2017 20:59:38 GMT -5
People are mighty sensitive here.
I would rather try to have a voice than not. Obviously this has come out because someone did have a voice, someone did do something about it. The justice system is garbage, we all know that, but, it's out there now and here's hoping he gets what he deserves.
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Post by ookkie on Oct 10, 2017 21:23:51 GMT -5
utterly overblown nonsense the LOT OF IT! ...how so?
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Post by unc40 on Oct 10, 2017 21:31:20 GMT -5
This garbage has gone on for years in Hollywood. In Shirley Temple's autobiography she writes about how when she was 14 a movie producer chased her around his office to try to get with her. I am sure there are other stories from the Golden Age of Hollywood like this.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Oct 10, 2017 21:45:59 GMT -5
This is a world different then Cosby tho. Cosby was a cog in the Hollywood machine. Harvey Weinstein is one of the guys driving the machine. He's not some Jello pushing TV comedian, he's been a megapower in Hollywood for years. Launched numerous careers, and has probably killed even more. Cosby was a dude doing f***ed up shit, this one is actually blowing the door open to systematic rape culture in Hollywood. Yes, I'm aware that "casting couch" rumours have been around since Hollywood began, but I'm struggling to think of a time when this many people, many of them major and influential names, have spoken up about it all at once before The Weinstein company was failing, I believe. He stopped making people money, and under the bus he goes. Hopefully he takes a bunch of others out with him. A very good point. It's a bitter pill that can be hard to swallow but it's so true. When you have someone in a position of power that makes a lot of people a ton of money, they will have a lot of influence and people will protect them because they are protecting their own interests in the process. You don't mess with people's money. No one will kill a golden goose. To the people benefiting from it, it can do no wrong. Once it stops producing, all bets are off. I have no doubt that's why he was finally exposed and tossed out. It's really sad that's what it takes but unfortunately that's the business. It's a very elite club and it's very hard to get in. For every one that makes it big, there are millions you've never heard of and never will. No one rocks the boat. They've invested too much in their hopes and dreams. No one wants to lose their spot or lose their chance to advance further. No one wants the stress of having to battle these monsters. Who will believe them? Who will support them? Will they ever work again? So they deal with it the best they can and try to forget about it. I understand why these predators get exposed the way they do, but I feel terrible for the victims that were controlled through fear and felt they had to remain silent for so many years.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 10, 2017 21:50:43 GMT -5
People are mighty sensitive here. I would rather try to have a voice than not. Obviously this has come out because someone did have a voice, someone did do something about it. The justice system is garbage, we all know that, but, it's out there now and here's hoping he gets what he deserves. That much we can agree on, certainly, it's the important thing.
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Post by Perd on Oct 10, 2017 22:07:54 GMT -5
I alway found the "why did they come out with this sooner?" argument to be a fallacy. Because it can't help but imply the person using it doesn't believe the accuser. And it's that assumption, that no one will believe them, that makes the victim scared to come out with it in the first place.
Not accusing anyone here of doing that. But it's an all too common argument, when stuff like this comes out.
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Post by G✇JI☈A on Oct 10, 2017 23:49:20 GMT -5
I hope this is the end of this kind of thing in Hollywood
Didn't Clint Eastwood pretty much have one of his actor ex wives blacklisted after they divorced? Read that somewhere... cracked probably.
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Post by BrodietheSlayer on Oct 10, 2017 23:53:22 GMT -5
This book definitely exposed a lot of the horribleness the Weinstein brothers have inflicted on various filmmakers, actors, writers, reporters, Miramax employees, ect. over the years, so, none of the recent allegations surprise me. Not one bit. Both Weinsteins are exploitative piece of shit bullies on the level that would make JBL say "Be a Star."
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