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Post by schizo on May 17, 2018 14:45:30 GMT -5
Maybe the MCU can get Smackdown? Samoa Joe Vs thanos in Avengers 4! Do it WWE
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Post by Chiral on May 17, 2018 15:09:32 GMT -5
Maybe the MCU can get Smackdown? Samoa Joe Vs thanos in Avengers 4! Do it WWE "Fun isn't something one considers when balancing the WWE Universe, but this, does bring a smile to my face."
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2018 15:20:39 GMT -5
Here's what Meltzer said.
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Post by Mayonnaise on May 17, 2018 15:35:08 GMT -5
Here's what Meltzer said. This has been the reality for awhile now I believe. The classic Big 4 (which was going to be 5 with MITB being added this year) were the one meant to set up RAW (and I guess SDL) with RAW to be focused on, the others were just going to become Class of the Champions (NWA/WCW version, not the WWE one) type shows to help string stuff along.
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Post by Lancers on May 17, 2018 16:24:14 GMT -5
At this point, I expect Vince to get $100 million from Oprah Winfrey to air live episodes of NXT Wednesday Nights on Oxygen.
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Post by Raw is Doodie101 on May 17, 2018 17:15:26 GMT -5
If Raw is getting 400 Million then Smackdown is going to get at least 200 Million. I doubt WWE will mess over Smackdown because they’ll have to still answer to their bosses at whatever new channel their on. Raw will still be on top but it will be similar to how the current brand split is handled.
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Post by Chainsaw on May 17, 2018 18:10:13 GMT -5
Here's what Meltzer said. So, knowing all of this, what is my impetus to go to any non-major PPV's? Dave is basically laying out the idea that all of the focus is going to go to what happens on Raw, so how many major events are going to happen on those shows? Why should I pay more for a PPV ticket when Raw has the potential to have more going on for a slightly cheaper price? And what is anyone who lands on SD going to be thinking knowing that they've landed on a literal B-show that is getting less money for production and less attention? In a distant chance of impressing management enough to get them onto Raw, a roster that's already overflowing with talent?
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Post by KofiMania on May 17, 2018 18:57:11 GMT -5
Here's what Meltzer said. So, knowing all of this, what is my impetus to go to any non-major PPV's? Dave is basically laying out the idea that all of the focus is going to go to what happens on Raw, so how many major events are going to happen on those shows? Why should I pay more for a PPV ticket when Raw has the potential to have more going on for a slightly cheaper price? And what is anyone who lands on SD going to be thinking knowing that they've landed on a literal B-show that is getting less money for production and less attention? In a distant chance of impressing management enough to get them onto Raw, a roster that's already overflowing with talent? That was just Dave spitballing, he wasn't saying what's actually going to happen.
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Post by Bub (BLM) on May 17, 2018 19:09:19 GMT -5
Here's what Meltzer said. So, knowing all of this, what is my impetus to go to any non-major PPV's? Dave is basically laying out the idea that all of the focus is going to go to what happens on Raw, so how many major events are going to happen on those shows? Why should I pay more for a PPV ticket when Raw has the potential to have more going on for a slightly cheaper price? And what is anyone who lands on SD going to be thinking knowing that they've landed on a literal B-show that is getting less money for production and less attention? In a distant chance of impressing management enough to get them onto Raw, a roster that's already overflowing with talent? I'd love to be on the "B-show". You're still making WWE money, but have to deal with far less micromanaging.
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Post by HMARK Center on May 17, 2018 20:00:22 GMT -5
So, knowing all of this, what is my impetus to go to any non-major PPV's? Dave is basically laying out the idea that all of the focus is going to go to what happens on Raw, so how many major events are going to happen on those shows? Why should I pay more for a PPV ticket when Raw has the potential to have more going on for a slightly cheaper price? And what is anyone who lands on SD going to be thinking knowing that they've landed on a literal B-show that is getting less money for production and less attention? In a distant chance of impressing management enough to get them onto Raw, a roster that's already overflowing with talent? I'd love to be on the "B-show". You're still making WWE money, but have to deal with far less micromanaging. But are you making significantly less money in the process (loss of merch revenue, smaller house show gates, less eyes on your work leading to fewer opportunities in and out of the industry, etc.)? That's a big ask, particularly if there are wrestlers being moved from show to show and they don't really get a say in the decision making. "We need you to switch shows and work just as much for less money" wouldn't fly very well.
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Post by Reflecto on May 17, 2018 20:14:16 GMT -5
Here's what Meltzer said. So, knowing all of this, what is my impetus to go to any non-major PPV's? Dave is basically laying out the idea that all of the focus is going to go to what happens on Raw, so how many major events are going to happen on those shows? Why should I pay more for a PPV ticket when Raw has the potential to have more going on for a slightly cheaper price? And what is anyone who lands on SD going to be thinking knowing that they've landed on a literal B-show that is getting less money for production and less attention? In a distant chance of impressing management enough to get them onto Raw, a roster that's already overflowing with talent? The biggest impetus would be in the creativity for non-major PPVs. If Meltzer is correct that Raw will become the primary moneymaker over PPVs, then that would in turn mean that WWE could make their PPVs more special and take more risks for their non-major PPVs...similar to how TNA was able to do so with One Night Only after the One Night Only PPVs had become effectively worthless. With this in play, you can do more things you couldn't do if you're trying to make the PPVs the end-all, be-all: Go back to the old-fashioned "Thanksgiving Night, all traditional elimination matches" for Survivor Series? Why not? It's not like you have to use Survivor Series to focus on stories anymore. Likewise- they already proved tournaments draw on the Network- why NOT make King of the Ring its own PPV again...and beyond just King of the Ring, the fans clearly are longing for it to happen, why not give a whole PPV to the women's division? Have Hell in a Cell as a PPV? You already killed the aura of the Cell match making the PPV...sure, why not put every match inside the Cell? Heck, go further than that and try other new things. How about making a PPV all NXT vs. WWE matches? Heck, if you aren't making the brunt of your money from PPVs anymore, why not go further and have a big PPV from England where it's all WWE vs. UK division matches, to boot?
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Post by Ryushinku on May 18, 2018 5:43:24 GMT -5
It's very interesting to think of a situation where the model reverts back to the 4 major PPVs and the tv shows approach.
The old WCW Clash system could really be a workable idea.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on May 18, 2018 7:18:14 GMT -5
If Raw is getting 400 Million then Smackdown is going to get at least 200 Million. I doubt WWE will mess over Smackdown because they’ll have to still answer to their bosses at whatever new channel their on. Raw will still be on top but it will be similar to how the current brand split is handled. 200 million for a show that has been cancelled seems a bit much, they're not negotiating from a position of strength if NBC are unwilling to make an offer. Smackdown has been cancelled numerous times and has that working against it too.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on May 18, 2018 7:24:51 GMT -5
I mean we've already seen PPVs get downplayed and Wrestlemania basically ended on a "Tune in next time!" by resolving almost none of its major feuds, and not even in a "blow off the fallout at Backlash" way but in completely jerking them around. Except then TV, GRR, and Backlash didn't move anything forward at all either. I doubt we see anything change with the shift in how much what makes; it'll just be that none of it matters.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 9:59:20 GMT -5
hopefully this means more money for the wrestlers
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Post by RadcapRadsley on May 18, 2018 11:09:22 GMT -5
No one has mentioned the best news about Raw staying on Usa,Todd Chrisley now is guranteed a spot in the celebrity wing of the Hall Of Fame over the next decade.
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Post by spongebobhollypants on May 18, 2018 11:59:58 GMT -5
If Raw is getting 400 Million then Smackdown is going to get at least 200 Million. I doubt WWE will mess over Smackdown because they’ll have to still answer to their bosses at whatever new channel their on. Raw will still be on top but it will be similar to how the current brand split is handled. 200 million for a show that has been cancelled seems a bit much, they're not negotiating from a position of strength if NBC are unwilling to make an offer. Smackdown has been cancelled numerous times and has that working against it too. NBCU can't afford the rights to Smackdown in addition to increasing the current RAW deal, it's not exactly being cancelled in the traditional sense. WWE have been shopping RAW and SD around as separate entities since they linked up with Endeavor.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 10:41:29 GMT -5
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on May 19, 2018 10:53:24 GMT -5
So, to summarise everything:
Financial Experts: “This company is worth billions on the stock market!” TV Networks: “Here’s a third of a billion dollars for just one of your shows. And someone else is coming with hundreds of millions of dollars for the other one.” Wrestling Fans: “...Have any of you ever actually WATCHED these shows at any point?”
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Post by J Lee O'Brien on May 19, 2018 11:43:08 GMT -5
So, to summarise everything: Financial Experts: “This company is worth billions on the stock market!” TV Networks: “Here’s a third of a billion dollars for just one of your shows. And someone else is coming with hundreds of millions of dollars for the other one.” Wrestling Fans: “...Have any of you ever actually WATCHED these shows at any point?” *Yano shrug*
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