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Post by lildude8218 on Nov 14, 2019 16:19:00 GMT -5
Slick managed two Russians because what do they know about our money? He could take 75% of their pay and they'd still think they were getting a lot.
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Post by Chainsaw on Nov 14, 2019 17:25:58 GMT -5
Paul Heyman and Curtis Axel. It wasn't the best to start off with, but after that Triple H promo, poor Axel didn't stand a chance. also Paul Heyman and Cesaro. Cesaor did fit with The Real Americans. But Cesaro is posh, educated, a man of class. Nothing alike with the Sleazy, Underhanded and violence advocator that is Heyman. Fact that he played third fiddle to Lesnar didn't help too. See, I disagree with the idea of him not fitting in with Heyman. In fact, of all of the people that weren't Lesnar that Heyman managed, Punk, Ryback, and Axel, Cesaro is the one who should have been the perfect match and a sure thing. Amazing wrestler, magnetic personality, but needed a mouthpiece that would bring all of that together. But like you said, so much of it was Heyman talking about Brock while he was managing Cesaro, almost like he's an agent to both a character actor and the biggest movie star in Hollywood, he only had time for one for the most part. It was such a weird decision to Cesaro's detriment.
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Post by FHgrad99 on Nov 15, 2019 17:46:54 GMT -5
What about Jimmy Hart managing Jerry Flynn in his WCW version of The First Family? It's pretty odd to have a "jobber to the stars" as a part of your heel stable.
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Post by sungod2020 on Aug 24, 2020 11:28:11 GMT -5
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Post by wildojinx on Aug 24, 2020 12:37:08 GMT -5
Stan Hansen and Fred Blassie Vader and Paul Bearer
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Post by Alice Syndrome on Aug 24, 2020 12:53:27 GMT -5
Lacey Evans managing the Forgotten Sons on the NXT House Shows while working out the face version of the 50s pinup gimmick on TV.
I know she's also a vet, but What?
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Post by The Thread Barbi on Aug 24, 2020 14:03:30 GMT -5
Shawn and Jose Lothario. I get the history and connection, but Shawn coming out doing his whole shtick and Jose walking behind him all old and such. Just looks kinda cringey and shit. I honestly think they were going for Rocky Balboa and old Mick. The training montages, the Rocky 3 arc with the champion loses due to the trainer getting a heart attack, leading to eye of the tiger type return to glory with Sid.
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Post by Manute Bol on Aug 24, 2020 14:10:28 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase and most of the guys he managed in the Million Dollar Corporation. The Corporation started off making sense. Nikolai Volkoff worked as DiBiase's down on his luck whipping boy, IRS was an old friend and ally, and Bam Bam Bigelow and Tatanka were sell outs who couldn't turn down the money. Unfortunately things went off the rails after that. King Kong Bundy and Kama didn't need the Corporation and probably could have worked as solo acts. Things got really bad though when they added Sycho Sid and The "1-2-3" Kid. By then it just came across as a stable of random people with no real cohesiveness to it.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 14:24:14 GMT -5
"Arab" managers who turned white guys into sheikhs ... e.g. Skandor Ackbar & Hercules, Adnan Al-Kaissie and Ken Patera/Jerry Blackwell.
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Post by CMWaters on Aug 24, 2020 15:18:12 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase and most of the guys he managed in the Million Dollar Corporation. The Corporation started off making sense. Nikolai Volkoff worked as DiBiase's down on his luck whipping boy, IRS was an old friend and ally, and Bam Bam Bigelow and Tatanka were sell outs who couldn't turn down the money. Unfortunately things went off the rails after that. King Kong Bundy and Kama didn't need the Corporation and probably could have worked as solo acts. Things got really bad though when they added Sycho Sid and The "1-2-3" Kid. By then it just came across as a stable of random people with no real cohesiveness to it. And let's not forget...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2020 18:26:52 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase and most of the guys he managed in the Million Dollar Corporation. The Corporation started off making sense. Nikolai Volkoff worked as DiBiase's down on his luck whipping boy, IRS was an old friend and ally, and Bam Bam Bigelow and Tatanka were sell outs who couldn't turn down the money. Unfortunately things went off the rails after that. King Kong Bundy and Kama didn't need the Corporation and probably could have worked as solo acts. Things got really bad though when they added Sycho Sid and The "1-2-3" Kid. By then it just came across as a stable of random people with no real cohesiveness to it. It was completely cohesive. These were all guys who liked to have the public pool to themselves.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Aug 24, 2020 22:46:19 GMT -5
Slick managed two Russians because what do they know about our money? He could take 75% of their pay and they'd still think they were getting a lot. I thought it was because he like to Party...The COMMUNIST PARTY!
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Post by agent817 on Aug 24, 2020 22:48:07 GMT -5
Shawn and Jose Lothario. I get the history and connection, but Shawn coming out doing his whole shtick and Jose walking behind him all old and such. Just looks kinda cringey and shit. I honestly think they were going for Rocky Balboa and old Mick. The training montages, the Rocky 3 arc with the champion loses due to the trainer getting a heart attack so the champion loses, leading to eye of the tiger type return to glory with Sid. What I thought didn't look right was Jose's suit jacket have Shawn's glittery logo on the back.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Aug 25, 2020 8:56:44 GMT -5
Why would proud Mexican Alberto Del Rio work with known racist Uncle Zeb?
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Post by Tyrannosaurus Sex on Aug 25, 2020 9:15:29 GMT -5
Undertaker being managed by Brother Love initially was pretty weird. Same with when Daivari was managing Kurt Angle and then Mark Henry.
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Post by jason1980s on Aug 25, 2020 11:07:17 GMT -5
Fuji and the Wizard made sense being with Kamala but having seen a Bobby Heenan interview with Kamala (I think someone on here or wrestlingfigs posted it after James's death) I think would have been much better. He had Bundy, Studd and soon Andre but it probably would have gotten over Kamala much more and maybe he would have stayed with WWF for a while.
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Post by deezy on Aug 25, 2020 11:44:11 GMT -5
Elizabeth managing Sting. I know it was a set-up by Luger but it looked weird seeing Liz come to the ring with Sting for a couple weeks.
Oddly enough this is one of the few times Sting saw it coming.
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Post by Sephiroth on Aug 25, 2020 13:41:44 GMT -5
The trope of "conniving businessman in a fancy suit managing shouty cocaine-fueled post-apocalyptic warrior" makes no sense and shouldn't have worked for anyone, but it was such a staple of 80s and early 90s wrestling that it just feels right to me, and I love seeing modern tributes to it. Are you saying their money isn’t good enough for the post apocalyptic warriors?! I find that a little hard to swallow, you jock ass!!!
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Post by ianriccaboni on Aug 25, 2020 14:40:28 GMT -5
Bobby Heenan and the Missing Link and Jimmy Hart with King Kong Bundy.
Oddly, they'd later be in a trade for one another, one of the few acknowledgements of manager changes, although WWF was actually quite good with this around this time, including Slick buying Blassie's contracts, Valentine reuniting with Jimmy Hart after Johnny V., etc.
They all got ink in the WWF Magazine and were explained pretty well on TV, too.
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Post by agent817 on Aug 27, 2020 15:58:05 GMT -5
Ted DiBiase and most of the guys he managed in the Million Dollar Corporation. I feel that was moreso how they were booked. The idea of an evil millionaire leading a heel stable isn't bad on paper, but it was moreso the execution of it. They were just a bunch of mismatch randos(Sid, Bam Bam Bigelow, King Kong Bundy, IRS, Tatanka, etc) that didn't have a common agenda, weren't seen as a threat, nor did they win any championships. The only thing that linked them together was that they were managed by Dibiase. Maybe if they took part in group beatdowns and given a corporate makeover to fit with the theme of the stable and had a common goal, it could've worked. It was WWF's first attempt at a stable(i'm not counting manager-centric ones) and it showed. Maybe I should watch some stuff from 1995, but were there any bits with Ted DiBiase cutting a promo, whether it was backstage or in the ring and had the Million Dollar Corporation accompanying him like they were his bodyguards or anything like that?
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