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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 1, 2021 8:44:54 GMT -5
In Silverman's case he dared to upgrade to 1st class out of his own pocket. Because, only main eventers fly 1st class. That whole era of "wrestler's court" WWE was just like if nobody had ever left the frat house. Physically, at least. Mentally, those dudes are forever stuck in the frat house. Pass Droz in the back and say nothing. Yeah Sean O'Haire was kept around for awhile, but never really got anything substantial.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jul 1, 2021 9:55:06 GMT -5
Take your mask off before the match starts in a Masked Wrestler tournament against the guy who booked you. What's the story here?
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 1, 2021 10:21:22 GMT -5
Kevin Walchoz, aka Nailz, had a o meeting with Vince over money. Things turned ugly and Walchoz ended up trying to strangle Vince. He’d later claim Vince provoked him, but this was refuted by Bret Hart and Pat Paterson, who were outside Vince’s office and overheard it all going down.. Ok, I know that one. I thought it was one where someone plotted to take a gun to the arena or something like that. I originally thought Tommy Dreamer and Paul Heyman but he's not really the biggest promoter though he might have seemed like it to the ECW wrestlers and fans.
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Post by El Pollo Guerrera on Jul 1, 2021 10:28:34 GMT -5
Take your mask off before the match starts in a Masked Wrestler tournament against the guy who booked you. What's the story here? 1999 Michinoku Pro Mask Tourny, Great Sasuke booked a wrestler from the UK called the Dirt Bike Kid. Premise of the tourny is that all the wrestlers are wagering their identities and the final loser (round robin tournament) has to unmask. DBKs first match against Sasuke, before the match, he just takes his mask off before the bell. Sasuke gets pissed because damnit that's the whole thing about the tournament, and shoots on DBK. Video probably on YouTube should be easy to find (I'd link but on phone). From what I've heard around here, not a lot of DBK fans...
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Post by Tenshigure on Jul 1, 2021 10:34:14 GMT -5
Video probably on YouTube should be easy to find (I'd link but on phone). I got you:
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 1, 2021 10:34:44 GMT -5
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 1, 2021 10:36:08 GMT -5
1999 Michinoku Pro Mask Tourny, Great Sasuke booked a wrestler from the UK called the Dirt Bike Kid. Premise of the tourny is that all the wrestlers are wagering their identities and the final loser (round robin tournament) has to unmask. DBKs first match against Sasuke, before the match, he just takes his mask off before the bell. Sasuke gets pissed because damnit that's the whole thing about the tournament, and shoots on DBK. Video probably on YouTube should be easy to find (I'd link but on phone). From what I've heard around here, not a lot of DBK fans... I just remember him as an ECW job guy in 1996.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 1, 2021 10:39:00 GMT -5
Video probably on YouTube should be easy to find (I'd link but on phone). I got you: Totally unprofessional by Sasuke. Things take a bad turn right before the 4 minute mark.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 1, 2021 10:42:49 GMT -5
LOL pretending someone said 18. (oh wait, that's on the "should have ended careers" list. I got a million for that)
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Jul 1, 2021 11:24:00 GMT -5
Take your mask off before the match starts in a Masked Wrestler tournament against the guy who booked you. Wait, just watched the clip.... He still has a mask on, it just covers the lower half of his face not the top.
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Post by JoDaNa1281 on Jul 1, 2021 12:41:57 GMT -5
Take your mask off before the match starts in a Masked Wrestler tournament against the guy who booked you. Wait, just watched the clip.... He still has a mask on, it just covers the lower half of his face not the top. Yeah, it seems like the one he took off was just an entrance mask, that he takes off before a match, not one he actually wears during an actual match.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 1, 2021 12:44:27 GMT -5
Whatever Big Andy did to piss off someone in WWE, whether it was Austin or Vince during his time on Tough Enough. I guess he did some stuff with WWE Developmental but I don't think he was ever seen on TV after been stunned and obviously embarrassed. It's strange WWE would put so much effort into making a show only to make their pick worthless with an Austin beating.
Austin was probably the worst pick for a head trainer or whatever his position was that season, probably even worse than Holly, DeMott, Ivory, Jackie or Tazz because he was way too big of a star in wrestling to be able to properly communicate with these kids which is obvious by his mocking of "Silent Rage" and reaction to "Melina versus Alicia Fox." During the time someone, maybe on this board commented what if a tough enough contestant had said "Savio Vega versus Ringmaster?" as someone's favorite match is obviously their own personal choice and Austin didn't know the relationship between Cameron and Alicia.
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Post by Feyrhausen on Jul 1, 2021 13:03:06 GMT -5
Harris was just lazy. Thats all there is to it, and even after his WWE run he still remain out of shape. Like all of sudden he just didn't and doesn't care. Like the passion about wrestling quickly was gone but still showed up if someone was willing to pay for him. Which is a shame because he was talented and did so well with AMW tag team. Sure the team was outshined by Storms next partner with Beer Money. But AMW was a great team. AMW was a really good team and while Beer Money ended up being better, I think TNA undervalued Storm for a long time before he finally broke out and they realized how much the fans could get behind him Harris was clearly the guy they wanted to push. He had the look but just needed the character and that brutal match him and Storm had should been a wake up call. I think after that is when he did something stupid and I want to say the Black Reign feud came after that but yeah homie got lazy TNA probably would took him back as they did bring him back for a one off when I think he tagged with Matt against Storm and that was about it. He was still fat and out of shape That was when Matt was out of shape as well. We joked here that the match was Beer Money vs Beer Guts.
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Jul 1, 2021 13:39:46 GMT -5
Go on national television, say "Red turns to green," and show how blading is done, then soend the rest of your life bitching about being blackballed. Oh who am I kidding? Eddie Mansfield's career was dead before that anyway. He also said "Abraham Lincoln freed the slaves, but nobody has freed the wrestlers". He also said, "God has a way of getting even with people" in reference to Ole Anderson being in a wheelchair with MS. Dude is a straight up scumbag in my opinion.
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Post by fortknox on Jul 1, 2021 14:38:55 GMT -5
After being built up by Ross and Cornette as being the biggest badass that ever lived, you get knocked out by Bart Gunn in a shoot fight in front of millions.
Actually, never mind, that's the funniest way to kill a career.
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Post by The Creepo Man on Jul 1, 2021 14:43:57 GMT -5
Paul Roma no-selling Alex Wright’s offense for the entire match.
Filming a documentary on your fellow wrestlers getting stoned and taking prescription drugs on the road and threatening to release it. The person is Man Mountain Rock (1995 WWF) aka Maxx Payne (1993-94 WCW)
Warrior’s 1998 WCW career. (Wasn’t he given complete creative control over the storyline leading up to the Hogan match?)
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Big Cass must have stepped into a body swapping machine with King Kong Bundy and thought he was competing in WrestleMania 3 that night.
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 1, 2021 16:46:32 GMT -5
After being built up by Ross and Cornette as being the biggest badass that ever lived, you get knocked out by Bart Gunn in a shoot fight in front of millions. Actually, never mind, that's the funniest way to kill a career. I thought of saying Bart and Dr. Death but forgot but yeah, Dr. Death's career was pretty much over at that point. Not sure if he went back to Japan and was still big but he had the very short early 1999 stint with WWF and a very short time with WCW. Bart of course, his U.S. career was over as well.
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Post by 06vwgti on Jul 1, 2021 16:55:15 GMT -5
Whatever Big Andy did to piss off someone in WWE, whether it was Austin or Vince during his time on Tough Enough. I guess he did some stuff with WWE Developmental but I don't think he was ever seen on TV after been stunned and obviously embarrassed. It's strange WWE would put so much effort into making a show only to make their pick worthless with an Austin beating. Austin was probably the worst pick for a head trainer or whatever his position was that season, probably even worse than Holly, DeMott, Ivory, Jackie or Tazz because he was way too big of a star in wrestling to be able to properly communicate with these kids which is obvious by his mocking of "Silent Rage" and reaction to "Melina versus Alicia Fox." During the time someone, maybe on this board commented what if a tough enough contestant had said "Savio Vega versus Ringmaster?" as someone's favorite match is obviously their own personal choice and Austin didn't know the relationship between Cameron and Alicia. I understand the issues with the first two names mentioned as trainers, but the last three, were they bad trainers on Tough Enough? I don't recall others saying negative things about them
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Post by jason1980s on Jul 1, 2021 23:50:10 GMT -5
I understand the issues with the first two names mentioned as trainers, but the last three, were they bad trainers on Tough Enough? I don't recall others saying negative things about them I just imagine, and I could be wrong, Jackie and Tazz being difficult because they obviously hadn't achieved great success in WWF, had been wrestling for years and were probably angry at the new kids coming in to a potentially huge contract. Didn't Jackie rough up another women's wrestler pretty bad or am I imagining that? As for Ivory, I think back to her putting Jackie on the spot to jump in the pool. I get you do what you have to some degree to get the job but I feel like Jackie was put on the spot and realized if she hadn't done it she may not have had a chance. It was a veteran asking something unnecessary of a trainee because she, Ivory, knew she had Jackie right where she wanted her. I do like Ivory a lot, she was really nice to me in person and I do think she's a good person, Jackie and Tazz too but you really need trainers who are right in the middle of success. They may not have been in the main event but they weren't first match guys who didn't have much success in a certain promotion. Whether they are good wrestlers or potentially good trainers I think too much could go wrong if a veteran is jealous of a trainee getting a good spot on the card.
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Post by Blade on Jul 2, 2021 0:45:51 GMT -5
Take your mask off before the match starts in a Masked Wrestler tournament against the guy who booked you. Wait, just watched the clip.... He still has a mask on, it just covers the lower half of his face not the top. Yeah, aside from this being the usual childish wrestling bullshit that Sasuke should've been arrested for, is there any quote from either guy to confirm this was what actually went down? Aside from the fact DBK is actually wearing a mask, Sasuke spends the first half of the match selling for him, which seems odd to do if he was really that pissed about the mask thing.
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