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Post by chronocross on Aug 22, 2022 9:28:33 GMT -5
Easily Halloween Havoc, I thought DDP and Johnny B. Badd had a really good match, the Sting/Flair angle was interesting.
The IYH PPV that month was hot garbage as Shawn and Undertaker were off the card and the main event with Diesel/Bulldog sucked.
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Post by johncasey on Aug 22, 2022 15:36:49 GMT -5
This is a really interesting thread, TBH, basing decisions on events on how they look on paper instead of knowing what the events are actually like may be a little hard lol.
My theory is that WCW look better on paper but WWE events are actually better.
Interested to see if ECW PPV's get added in 97 and whether events like Canadian Stampede get chosen based on the card on paper (card looked skippable beforehand)
Halloween Havoc 95 for me, how anybody in WWF thought that IYH 4 was a good card is beyond me.
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Post by tafkaga on Aug 22, 2022 16:02:07 GMT -5
This is a really interesting thread, TBH, basing decisions on events on how they look on paper instead of knowing what the events are actually like may be a little hard lol. My theory is that WCW look better on paper but WWE events are actually better. Interested to see if ECW PPV's get added in 97 and whether events like Canadian Stampede get chosen based on the card on paper (card looked skippable beforehand) Halloween Havoc 95 for me, how anybody in WWF thought that IYH 4 was a good card is beyond me. I just finished watching through most of these, and for me the WCW events ARE actually significantly more enjoyable. Frankly though, a lot of that for me is the commentary teams. Schiavone, Heenan, and Dusty can make any kind of crap entertaining. Vince and Lawler, with Ross sometimes as the third guy, are only as good as the on screen product.
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Post by moonpies88 on Aug 22, 2022 16:18:23 GMT -5
This is a really interesting thread, TBH, basing decisions on events on how they look on paper instead of knowing what the events are actually like may be a little hard lol. My theory is that WCW look better on paper but WWE events are actually better. Interested to see if ECW PPV's get added in 97 and whether events like Canadian Stampede get chosen based on the card on paper (card looked skippable beforehand) Halloween Havoc 95 for me, how anybody in WWF thought that IYH 4 was a good card is beyond me. I will be adding ECW PPV'S
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Aug 22, 2022 18:15:20 GMT -5
Oh, if we're picking based off the card... eh, I still choose Halloween Havoc.
Although, you should really post the cards that were originally advertised. For IYH3, Owen was announced for the main event up until the show began. Survivor Series has a match with two showtime replacements, as well.
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Post by moonpies88 on Aug 22, 2022 18:28:45 GMT -5
Oh, if we're picking based off the card... eh, I still choose Halloween Havoc. Although, you should really post the cards that were originally advertised. For IYH3, Owen was announced for the main event up until the show began. Survivor Series has a match with two showtime replacements, as well. I'll have to do a bit more research on the cards, thanks
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Post by flowercity on Aug 23, 2022 20:00:30 GMT -5
This thread has legs. I like the discussion the first two months started.
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Post by Jindrak Mark on Aug 23, 2022 20:25:09 GMT -5
Havoc. I think WCW will win a lot of these ones early because the star power is overwhelming Yeah, WCW just had more star power at the top of the card which makes the shows look more impressive and worth your money. Diesel v Bulldog actually looks okay but it doesn't have a lot of help compared to HH which has Hogan/Giant/Savage/Luger/Sting/Flair/Pillman/Arn. I'll probably go with WCW most of the time until around 97/98 then it will be closer.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Aug 23, 2022 20:27:38 GMT -5
Havoc. I think WCW will win a lot of these ones early because the star power is overwhelming Yeah, WCW just had more star power at the top of the card which makes the shows look more impressive and worth your money. Diesel v Bulldog actually looks okay but it doesn't have a lot of help compared to HH which has Hogan/Giant/Savage/Luger/Sting/Flair/Pillman/Arn. I'll probably go with WCW most of the time until around 97/98 then it will be closer. I don't remember what WCW did in November 95 but I can't see it being better than Survivor Series 95, that was a great show.
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Post by flowercity on Aug 23, 2022 20:59:25 GMT -5
Yeah, WCW just had more star power at the top of the card which makes the shows look more impressive and worth your money. Diesel v Bulldog actually looks okay but it doesn't have a lot of help compared to HH which has Hogan/Giant/Savage/Luger/Sting/Flair/Pillman/Arn. I'll probably go with WCW most of the time until around 97/98 then it will be closer. I don't remember what WCW did in November 95 but I can't see it being better than Survivor Series 95, that was a great show. Observe this, brother.
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Post by moonpies88 on Aug 24, 2022 8:01:04 GMT -5
wow a blowout for WCW
21-0!!!! Another dominating win
Now to a more challenging month
Now to November 1995!
WCW WORLD WAR 3 FROM THE Norfolk Scope in Norfolk, Virginia.
1)Johnny B. Badd (c) vs Diamond Dallas Page (with The Diamond Doll) for WCW TV title 2)Big Bubba Rogers vs Jim Duggan in a Taped Fist Match 3)Bull Nakano and Akira Hokuto (with Sonny Onoo) vs Mayumi Ozaki and Cutie Suzuki 4)Kensuke Sasaki (c) (with Sonny Onoo) vs Chris Benoit for WCW US title 5)Lex Luger vs Macho Man 6)Sting ve Ric Flair 7)60 man world war 3 Match for WCW Title
WWF Survivor Series from USAir Arena in Landover, Maryland,
1)The BodyDonnas (Skip, Rad Radford, Dr. Tom Prichard and Jean-Pierre Lafitte(replaced by 1-2-3-kid) (with Sunny and Ted DiBiase) vs The Underdogs (Marty Jannetty, Hakushi, Barry Horowitz and AVatar (replaced by Bob Holly)) 2)Bertha Faye, Aja Kong, Tomoko Watanabe and Lioness Asuka (with Harvey Wippleman) vs Alundra Blayze, Kyoko Inoue, Sakie Hasegawa and Chaparita Asari 3)Goldust vs Bam Bam 4) The Darkside (The Undertaker, Savio Vega, Fatu and Henry O. Godwinn) (with Paul Bearer) vs The Royals (King Mabel, Jerry Lawler, Isaac Yankem and Hunter Hearst Helmsley) (with Sir Mo) 5)Shawn Michaels, Ahmed Johnson, The British Bulldog and Sycho Sid (with Jim Cornette and Ted DiBiase) vs Yokozuna, Owen Hart, Razor Ramon and Dean Douglas (with Mr. Fuji) 6)Bret Hart vs Diesel (c) No Dq match for WWF Title
Finally a tough matchup. I lean WCW though. The 60 man battle royal would for sure get my interest especially since the winner gets WCW title. I also like the luger/macho and Flair/Sting matches
WWF side , I like the last 2 matched but not enough to get me to pick that over WCW World War 3
SO I'll go WCW once again
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Post by salz4life on Aug 24, 2022 8:17:48 GMT -5
Luger/Macho and Sting/Flair make this a tough call... but I've never been a fan of the World War 3 match so I'm going with WWF. The last two matches (especially the main event) were really good and enough for me to pick WWF.
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Post by tafkaga on Aug 24, 2022 8:20:13 GMT -5
This is an easy win for WCW. The card is stacked, and the spectacle promised by a 60-man 3-ring battle royal is not a thing I could resist. Remember this is the first World War 3 so we really didn't have any idea how it would be presented.
Survivor Series is an old favorite of mine, but this one looks very weak, and is very indicative of where the WWF is at in terms of roster depth. That first match is almost all jobbers. The second match is mostly people I never heard of. Oddly enough, the two singles matches are the only only things that look good to me on this card.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Aug 24, 2022 8:46:02 GMT -5
I don't remember what WCW did in November 95 but I can't see it being better than Survivor Series 95, that was a great show. Observe this, brother. Yep, that was a steaming piece of crap
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Post by moonpies88 on Aug 24, 2022 8:48:04 GMT -5
JUST A REMINDER FOR NEW PEOPLE IN THIS THREAD THIS IS NOT WHAT WAS THE BEST PPV BUT WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE WATCHED BY LOOKING AT THE CARD
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Post by flowercity on Aug 24, 2022 11:52:54 GMT -5
World War 3 for me. Gotta put myself in the mindset of never having seen this match type before. I am a sucker for that. My curiosity would have been very high. Not to mention Flair/Sting always delivers (as it did here too).
For Survivor Series, good card, but Diesel had done nothing to show me he would be capable of a classic match with Bret by this point,
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Post by moonpies88 on Aug 24, 2022 13:50:42 GMT -5
World War 3 for me. Gotta put myself in the mindset of never having seen this match type before. I am a sucker for that. My curiosity would have been very high. Not to mention Flair/Sting always delivers (as it did here too). For Survivor Series, good card, but Diesel had done nothing to show me he would be capable of a classic match with Bret by this point, Same. It's like Rumble 92. The fact the winner becomes champ, to me, overrides Diesel vs Bret
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Post by johncasey on Aug 24, 2022 14:06:27 GMT -5
I'm going Survivor Series, I think that I would have been annoyed about WCW Title match at Halloween Havoc meaning nothing.
Survivor Series still meant something to me back then and they said that there would be a winner in Diesel VS Bret.
Next month could be interesting I believe it's a In Your House featuring the Bret VS Bulldog rematch against a Starcade featuring Hogan VS a Ed Leslie Gimmick
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Post by moonpies88 on Aug 24, 2022 14:09:39 GMT -5
I'm going Survivor Series, I think that I would have been annoyed about WCW Title match at Halloween Havoc meaning nothing. Survivor Series still meant something to me back then and they said that there would be a winner in Diesel VS Bret. Next month could be interesting I believe it's a In Your House featuring the Bret VS Bulldog rematch against a Starcade featuring Hogan VS a Ed Leslie Gimmick That was Starcade 94
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Post by johncasey on Aug 24, 2022 14:11:23 GMT -5
I'm going Survivor Series, I think that I would have been annoyed about WCW Title match at Halloween Havoc meaning nothing. Survivor Series still meant something to me back then and they said that there would be a winner in Diesel VS Bret. Next month could be interesting I believe it's a In Your House featuring the Bret VS Bulldog rematch against a Starcade featuring Hogan VS a Ed Leslie Gimmick That was Starcade 94 My mistake sorry
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