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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 30, 2022 18:59:14 GMT -5
They REALLY tried to make Test a thing for so long. Dude was in storylines with the McMahons, he was a featured player in the tail end of the Invasion and put above a bunch of people.
He just kept sucking.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 30, 2022 19:01:56 GMT -5
They REALLY tried to make Test a thing for so long. Dude was in storylines with the McMahons, he was a featured player in the tail end of the Invasion and put above a bunch of people. He just kept sucking. He's a great example of a dude who was good firmly in the midcard, and they kept thinking he'd do even better when given more, but nope, that was his ceiling. |
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 30, 2022 19:34:02 GMT -5
Kenny Dykstra after the Spirit Squad broke up was pushed insanely hard for a few months trying to join up with Rated RKO and feuding with Ric Flair. He just wasn't ready for that role.
Also very easy to forget how hard Renee Dupree was pushed when he was drafted to Smackdown first overall.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Aug 30, 2022 20:23:48 GMT -5
Remember that cheesy shit before Survivor Series where Lex and his family were wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving? oof. And Luger got to celebrate with Santa at the end of the show. Imagine if they did that every year? Hogan and Santa in 87 (yeah, Hogan lost, but he was the guy standing tall at the end anyway); Megapowers and Santa in 88; Warrior and Santa in 89; Hogan, Warrior and Santa in 90; LOD and Santa in 91; Undertaker and Santa in 94; Santa gets jackknifed by Diesel in 95; Sid and Santa in 96; Bret spits on Santa in 97; Santa gets "fired" in 98; Big Show and Santa in 99; Austin drops Santa's sleigh on top of Triple H in 00; Santa pisses on WCW's grave in 01; Michaels and Santa in 02; Goldberg and Santa in 03; Orton and Santa in 04; Undertaker Chokeslam's Santa in 05; Batista and Santa in 06; Edge Spear's Santa in 07; Cena and Santa in 08 and 09; Orton, Cena and Santa in 10; Rock and Santa laugh over Cena's carcass in 11; The Shield murder Santa in 12; Santa gets "fired" again in 13; Ziggler and Santa in 14; Sheamus steals Santa's presents in 15; Goldberg and Santa in 16; Braun and Santa in 17; Brock F-5's Santa in 18; Shayna chokes out Santa in 19; Santa is forced to acknowledge the Tribal Chief in 21 (he sat out 2020 due to the pandemic) ...what were we talking about again?? It apparently took all damn day to get “From my family to yours, we wish a very Happy Thanksgiving” out of Luger. |
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Post by ianriccaboni on Aug 30, 2022 20:33:56 GMT -5
Blackjack Mulligan in the WWF in late 1986/early 1987. He started by squashing Jimmy Jack Funk a few times on TV, then was bulldozing Nikolai, the Iron Sheik or Sika in under a minute most nights. He also won a ton of "$50,000 bunkhouse battle royals" to close house shows. Closest thing he had to losses were some double-countouts against Bundy. I'm honestly surprised they didn't find a way to squeeze him into WrestleMania 3, considering how tough they were making him look. I think you could say this twice for him as he's all over late 1984 and early 1985 TV. His BBQ segment was actually quite good and fun, too! |
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Post by ianriccaboni on Aug 30, 2022 20:37:36 GMT -5
And Luger got to celebrate with Santa at the end of the show. Imagine if they did that every year? Hogan and Santa in 87 (yeah, Hogan lost, but he was the guy standing tall at the end anyway); Megapowers and Santa in 88; Warrior and Santa in 89; Hogan, Warrior and Santa in 90; LOD and Santa in 91; Undertaker and Santa in 94; Santa gets jackknifed by Diesel in 95; Sid and Santa in 96; Bret spits on Santa in 97; Santa gets "fired" in 98; Big Show and Santa in 99; Austin drops Santa's sleigh on top of Triple H in 00; Santa pisses on WCW's grave in 01; Michaels and Santa in 02; Goldberg and Santa in 03; Orton and Santa in 04; Undertaker Chokeslam's Santa in 05; Batista and Santa in 06; Edge Spear's Santa in 07; Cena and Santa in 08 and 09; Orton, Cena and Santa in 10; Rock and Santa laugh over Cena's carcass in 11; The Shield murder Santa in 12; Santa gets "fired" again in 13; Ziggler and Santa in 14; Sheamus steals Santa's presents in 15; Goldberg and Santa in 16; Braun and Santa in 17; Brock F-5's Santa in 18; Shayna chokes out Santa in 19; Santa is forced to acknowledge the Tribal Chief in 21 (he sat out 2020 due to the pandemic) ...what were we talking about again?? It apparently took all damn day to get “From my family to yours, we wish a very Happy Thanksgiving” out of Luger. Didn't Bret celebrate with Santa in 1992, also? |
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Post by fortknox on Aug 30, 2022 21:05:43 GMT -5
It apparently took all damn day to get “From my family to yours, we wish a very Happy Thanksgiving” out of Luger. Didn't Bret celebrate with Santa in 1992, also? Yep.  youtu.be/Lwg-H74JmsM |
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Aug 30, 2022 21:18:37 GMT -5
It apparently took all damn day to get “From my family to yours, we wish a very Happy Thanksgiving” out of Luger. Didn't Bret celebrate with Santa in 1992, also? Indeed he did! |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Aug 30, 2022 21:39:39 GMT -5
Remember that cheesy shit before Survivor Series where Lex and his family were wishing everyone a happy Thanksgiving? oof. And Luger got to celebrate with Santa at the end of the show. Imagine if they did that every year? Hogan and Santa in 87 (yeah, Hogan lost, but he was the guy standing tall at the end anyway); Megapowers and Santa in 88; Warrior and Santa in 89; Hogan, Warrior and Santa in 90; LOD and Santa in 91; Undertaker and Santa in 94; Santa gets jackknifed by Diesel in 95; Sid and Santa in 96; Bret spits on Santa in 97; Santa gets "fired" in 98; Big Show and Santa in 99; Austin drops Santa's sleigh on top of Triple H in 00; Santa pisses on WCW's grave in 01; Michaels and Santa in 02; Goldberg and Santa in 03; Orton and Santa in 04; Undertaker Chokeslam's Santa in 05; Batista and Santa in 06; Edge Spear's Santa in 07; Cena and Santa in 08 and 09; Orton, Cena and Santa in 10; Rock and Santa laugh over Cena's carcass in 11; The Shield murder Santa in 12; Santa gets "fired" again in 13; Ziggler and Santa in 14; Sheamus steals Santa's presents in 15; Goldberg and Santa in 16; Braun and Santa in 17; Brock F-5's Santa in 18; Shayna chokes out Santa in 19; Santa is forced to acknowledge the Tribal Chief in 21 (he sat out 2020 due to the pandemic) ...what were we talking about again?? This is great. I remember trying to think of this too as far as who Santa would interact with if they had him come out every Survivor Series. It would've been awkard in 97. Also sorry to nitpick but wouldn't it be in Becky and Santa in 19 as even though she lost she was the one standing tall because " Hogan Backy must pose!" |
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Post by Celexa Bliss 54 on Aug 30, 2022 21:52:59 GMT -5
And Luger got to celebrate with Santa at the end of the show. Imagine if they did that every year? Hogan and Santa in 87 (yeah, Hogan lost, but he was the guy standing tall at the end anyway); Megapowers and Santa in 88; Warrior and Santa in 89; Hogan, Warrior and Santa in 90; LOD and Santa in 91; Undertaker and Santa in 94; Santa gets jackknifed by Diesel in 95; Sid and Santa in 96; Bret spits on Santa in 97; Santa gets "fired" in 98; Big Show and Santa in 99; Austin drops Santa's sleigh on top of Triple H in 00; Santa pisses on WCW's grave in 01; Michaels and Santa in 02; Goldberg and Santa in 03; Orton and Santa in 04; Undertaker Chokeslam's Santa in 05; Batista and Santa in 06; Edge Spear's Santa in 07; Cena and Santa in 08 and 09; Orton, Cena and Santa in 10; Rock and Santa laugh over Cena's carcass in 11; The Shield murder Santa in 12; Santa gets "fired" again in 13; Ziggler and Santa in 14; Sheamus steals Santa's presents in 15; Goldberg and Santa in 16; Braun and Santa in 17; Brock F-5's Santa in 18; Shayna chokes out Santa in 19; Santa is forced to acknowledge the Tribal Chief in 21 (he sat out 2020 due to the pandemic) ...what were we talking about again?? This is great. I remember trying to think of this too as far as who Santa would interact with if they had him come out every Survivor Series. It would've been awkard in 97. Also sorry to nitpick but wouldn't it be in Becky and Santa in 19 as even though she lost she was the one standing tall because " Hogan Backy must pose!" You're probably right lol I won't pretend to remember/know exactly how most of the shows from the 2010s ended, since my fandom was at its lowest point at the time. |
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Post by The Blue Nova on Aug 30, 2022 22:55:51 GMT -5
Ahmad Johnson 1996. Hes a punchline now but man in 1996 he was pushed hardcore hell he teamed with shawn michaels
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Post by Captain Stud Muffin (BLM) on Aug 30, 2022 23:02:00 GMT -5
They REALLY tried to make Test a thing for so long. Dude was in storylines with the McMahons, he was a featured player in the tail end of the Invasion and put above a bunch of people. He just kept sucking. If he could harness the same energy he had in the hoss fight against Lesnar more consistently he would have justified their pushes |
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Aug 31, 2022 2:29:12 GMT -5
Virgil for maybe 6 months (I was a kid so I don't remember exactly) after he turned on the Million Dollar Man before becoming a jobber He did get one Hell of a pop when he clocked DiBiase with the Million Dollar Belt at Rumble 91. He and Dibiase's Summerslam match had the crowd losing their minds. Virgil was over big time as a face for a year or so. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Aug 31, 2022 3:44:25 GMT -5
He did get one Hell of a pop when he clocked DiBiase with the Million Dollar Belt at Rumble 91. He and Dibiase's Summerslam match had the crowd losing their minds. Virgil was over big time as a face for a year or so. I wonder why they depushed him so quick. It wasn't like he was even bad in ring either. I wouldn't say he was great or anything but fine enough. I love the Repo Man but sacrificing Virgil to him seemed like a questionable decision. Honestly of the two of them I would say Virgil had the more upside at that point. Other then getting the winning pinfall in the eight man tag at WrestleMania VIII Virgil was cooked after that as he was just fed to like literally every heel. |
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 31, 2022 3:55:50 GMT -5
He and Dibiase's Summerslam match had the crowd losing their minds. Virgil was over big time as a face for a year or so. I wonder why they depushed him so quick. It wasn't like he was even bad in ring either. I wouldn't say he was great or anything but fine enough. I love the Repo Man but sacrificing Virgil to him seemed like a questionable decision. Honestly of the two of them I would say Virgil had the more upside at that point. Other then getting the winning pinfall in the eight man tag at WrestleMania VIII Virgil was cooked after that as he was just fed to like literally every heel. Yeah, he at least had good babyface fire at that point and could have worked as an underdog, but you need the underdog to occasionally win something big. Did he even have any feuds post DiBiase? The Repo Man stuff was a coda for that, he seemed to be one of those aimless bodies who'd show up, not doing anything of note which became more of a problem as things transitioned to the New Generation era. Also to add someone from the Dino Bravo timeframe, Hercules! The guy was on like, 20 PPVs in a row with only a couple of moments he really seemed over, his initial face turn then the early days of Power and Glory. |
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Post by ThankGodForSidJustice on Aug 31, 2022 4:26:29 GMT -5
I wonder why they depushed him so quick. It wasn't like he was even bad in ring either. I wouldn't say he was great or anything but fine enough. I love the Repo Man but sacrificing Virgil to him seemed like a questionable decision. Honestly of the two of them I would say Virgil had the more upside at that point. Other then getting the winning pinfall in the eight man tag at WrestleMania VIII Virgil was cooked after that as he was just fed to like literally every heel. Yeah, he at least had good babyface fire at that point and could have worked as an underdog, but you need the underdog to occasionally win something big. Did he even have any feuds post DiBiase? The Repo Man stuff was a coda for that, he seemed to be one of those aimless bodies who'd show up, not doing anything of note which became more of a problem as things transitioned to the New Generation era. Also to add someone from the Dino Bravo timeframe, Hercules! The guy was on like, 20 PPVs in a row with only a couple of moments he really seemed over, his initial face turn then the early days of Power and Glory. Oddly enough Virgil at the end of his run in the summer of 94 (Virgil still being around at this point is crazy to me) he had a feud with Nikolai Volkoff when they brought him back with that angle where he was broke and started working for Dibiase. Basically the premise being that it was Dibiase's former abused lackey against his new one. However besides that, Dibiase, and Repo Man there was no feuds for him. Unless I guess you count him being a proxy for Boss Man against Nailz which led to him getting squashed at Summerslam 92. That Hercules stat is something I've always found insane. If you don't count Tuesday In Texas from Wrestlemania 2 to Royal Rumble 1992 there was only two wrestlers that wrestled at every PPV. Hogan and Hercules. Like he was never pushed that hard so why they always found the need to get him a PPV spot is so strange. As for Herc not getting over in a way I can't put all the blame on him as they never really gave him much of a chance as he just kind of always lost when it mattered. I thought he got kind of a raw deal with his face run in particular. They turned him with the whole Dibiase slave deal and then Dibiase got the better of him at like literally every turn (eliminated him from Survivor Series and Royal Rumble and then beat him again in the blow off on The February 89 Main Event special) so he was pretty much cooked right out of the gates. Beating Haku as a consolation at Wrestlemania wasn't enough. They couldn't even let him beat Valentine who they were well past giving a crap about at Summerslam even though they Garvin right there to do the easy heel gets distracted by rival and loses finish. Power and Glory started promising and was the first six months of that was probably the first time since late 86-early 87 when he started being managed by Heenan that he was presented well as they won handily won their feud with the Rockers who never really got even with them for injuring Shawn at Summerslam 90. However by Wrestlemania time it was obvious there wasn't going to be much of a future for them between the Nasty Boys coming in and taking their push, getting squashed by LOD, and Hercules seemingly aging like twenty years in six months where he was just a complete shell of his former self both in look and performance. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2022 7:27:23 GMT -5
I wonder why they depushed him so quick. It wasn't like he was even bad in ring either. I wouldn't say he was great or anything but fine enough. I love the Repo Man but sacrificing Virgil to him seemed like a questionable decision. Honestly of the two of them I would say Virgil had the more upside at that point. Other then getting the winning pinfall in the eight man tag at WrestleMania VIII Virgil was cooked after that as he was just fed to like literally every heel. Yeah, he at least had good babyface fire at that point and could have worked as an underdog, but you need the underdog to occasionally win something big. Did he even have any feuds post DiBiase? The Repo Man stuff was a coda for that, he seemed to be one of those aimless bodies who'd show up, not doing anything of note which became more of a problem as things transitioned to the New Generation era. The only two things I can name off the top of my head after the dibiase/repoman stuff is sid beating him up and him having to wear that face mask for wm 8 to get sid over for the hulk match, and yoko squashing him at the survivor series and him warning bret about yoko. Other than that, he was "there" as a "we need a body to fill the show" and I can't name any "moments" that are memorable |
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Post by thechase on Aug 31, 2022 7:40:21 GMT -5
They REALLY tried to make Test a thing for so long. Dude was in storylines with the McMahons, he was a featured player in the tail end of the Invasion and put above a bunch of people. He just kept sucking. He's a great example of a dude who was good firmly in the midcard, and they kept thinking he'd do even better when given more, but nope, that was his ceiling. I liked Test a great deal, and felt he did fit the main event, they were always so hot/cold on him though, and being left out of a HHH feud I feel hurt him immensely. That would have made him. I was a huge Test mark (or "Testicle") during the Invasion angle, seeing him collect all those belts in 2001 made me feel it was going to be his year. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2022 7:49:20 GMT -5
He's a great example of a dude who was good firmly in the midcard, and they kept thinking he'd do even better when given more, but nope, that was his ceiling. I liked Test a great deal, and felt he did fit the main event, they were always so hot/cold on him though, and being left out of a HHH feud I feel hurt him immensely. That would have made him. I was a huge Test mark (or "Testicle") during the Invasion angle, seeing him collect all those belts in 2001 made me feel it was going to be his year. I thought that was weird at the time it happened. Stephanie is supposed to marry test, hunter comes out and says "I married her first!", and the big match is vince vs hunter where stephanie turns heel, lol, and test is immediately removed from the story and is soon in the tag team with albert and trish right after. Where was the test vs hunter match that you would logically think would've happened? |
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Post by SmashTV on Aug 31, 2022 7:55:28 GMT -5
Dino Bravo was the first person I thought of seeing the thread title, and it’s good to see I wasn’t alone. Despite being mediocre at best, he was often on TV, treated as a credible threat and involved in the Earthquake/Hogan feud.
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