Tony Khan: I Literally Could Not Do Briscoes vs. FTR In AEW

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Khan doubled down on the network possibly not allowing the Briscoes more even though he tried. I have to give him props here for realizing the potential.

Tony Khan comments on FTR's usage in All Elite Wrestling.

Many fans around the world of wrestling consider AEW to have the most talented roster out of any wrestling company in the world. This notion seemingly hurts the company at times, as AEW struggles to include some of the talented members of their roster on their weekly programming.


On the recent Full Gear media call, Tony Khan commented on FTR's usage in the company, noting that he has showcased the popular tag team on plenty of occasions. Khan also noted that he tried to pull off a match between FTR and The Briscoes in AEW, but it just couldn't happen.

"I got asked earlier in the call about FTR, well FTR have wrestled on pay-per-view a few times this year as the Ring Of Honor tag team champions and at Forbidden Door, they actually won the IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team Championships and became Triple Crown champions where they hold three world titles in the world of pro wrestling in which I have a pretty big influence frankly. I’ve had a lot of opportunities to showcase [FTR] and now being able to have another platform to showcase one of one of the best teams in the world to an audience that clearly really appreciates them. To the point I made earlier in the call, Ring Of Honor allowed me to feature a damn pay-per-view main event that was one of the best main events of the entire year in FTR vs. Briscoes 2 out of 3 falls, in a match that I literally could not do in AEW, and believe me I’ve tried.”

Khan has alluded to this in the past, as he has often associated The Briscoes with Ring Of Honor specifically.

[champchumpchange]

Nov 18, 2022 15:21:35 GMT -5 @slickrickstyles said:

Khan doubled down on the network possibly not allowing the Briscoes more even though he tried. I have to give him props here for realizing the potential.

Tony Khan comments on FTR's usage in All Elite Wrestling.

Many fans around the world of wrestling consider AEW to have the most talented roster out of any wrestling company in the world. This notion seemingly hurts the company at times, as AEW struggles to include some of the talented members of their roster on their weekly programming.


On the recent Full Gear media call, Tony Khan commented on FTR's usage in the company, noting that he has showcased the popular tag team on plenty of occasions. Khan also noted that he tried to pull off a match between FTR and The Briscoes in AEW, but it just couldn't happen.

"I got asked earlier in the call about FTR, well FTR have wrestled on pay-per-view a few times this year as the Ring Of Honor tag team champions and at Forbidden Door, they actually won the IWGP Heavyweight Tag Team Championships and became Triple Crown champions where they hold three world titles in the world of pro wrestling in which I have a pretty big influence frankly. I’ve had a lot of opportunities to showcase [FTR] and now being able to have another platform to showcase one of one of the best teams in the world to an audience that clearly really appreciates them. To the point I made earlier in the call, Ring Of Honor allowed me to feature a damn pay-per-view main event that was one of the best main events of the entire year in FTR vs. Briscoes 2 out of 3 falls, in a match that I literally could not do in AEW, and believe me I’ve tried.”

Khan has alluded to this in the past, as he has often associated The Briscoes with Ring Of Honor specifically.

Couldn’t he book it on PPV If he wanted?

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

What is their issue with booking the Briscoes?

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Nov 18, 2022 17:31:08 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

What is their issue with booking the Briscoes?

Their past comments (Jay's past comments, because Mark as far as I have ever seen has never said anything) on the LGBTQ community

Despite making strides to show improvement and change and admission to how wrong that mindset was, which has been backed up by people around them, I assume that a very specific tweet from Jay has followed them around and there was apparently "One Executive at WB" specifically that had been curbing The Briscoes from ever showing up on AEW. There were questions on if the merger would change things and if that specific executive was still there, but by the sounds of things, it looks like he either might be or the sentiment continues

Idk if that'll ever change, but hey at least there are wrestlers who can own up and try and change their mentality, so I give props to the Briscoes for that, who knows if it'll overshadow their careers until they're done, but that's been the reasoning as of now.

[Cyno]

I'm surprised that's still the case with all the executive turnover from WB to WB Discovery.

["Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay]

Nov 18, 2022 17:37:52 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Nov 18, 2022 17:31:08 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

What is their issue with booking the Briscoes?

Their past comments (Jay's past comments, because Mark as far as I have ever seen has never said anything) on the LGBTQ community

Despite making strides to show improvement and change and admission to how wrong that mindset was, which has been backed up by people around them, I assume that a very specific tweet from Jay has followed them around and there was apparently "One Executive at WB" specifically that had been curbing The Briscoes from ever showing up on AEW. There were questions on if the merger would change things and if that specific executive was still there, but by the sounds of things, it looks like he either might be or the sentiment continues

Idk if that'll ever change, but hey at least there are wrestlers who can own up and try and change their mentality, so I give props to the Briscoes for that, who knows if it'll overshadow their careers until they're done, but that's been the reasoning as of now.

While I trust what I have heard that they have changed I am still glad that the queer demographic is important enough to them to make that call

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Nov 18, 2022 17:28:27 GMT -5 champchumpchange said:

Nov 18, 2022 15:21:35 GMT -5 @slickrickstyles said:

Khan doubled down on the network possibly not allowing the Briscoes more even though he tried. I have to give him props here for realizing the potential.

Couldn’t he book it on PPV If he wanted?

I would imagine yes but there is no reason to intentionally piss off the network when he can possibly brand them to ROH in the future for good

[jimmyjackezekiel]

Triple H, you hearing this? You need to hire the Briscoes ASAP!

Oh, it's not like USA execs are giving AJ the boot?

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Nov 18, 2022 17:47:14 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

Nov 18, 2022 17:37:52 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Their past comments (Jay's past comments, because Mark as far as I have ever seen has never said anything) on the LGBTQ community

Despite making strides to show improvement and change and admission to how wrong that mindset was, which has been backed up by people around them, I assume that a very specific tweet from Jay has followed them around and there was apparently "One Executive at WB" specifically that had been curbing The Briscoes from ever showing up on AEW. There were questions on if the merger would change things and if that specific executive was still there, but by the sounds of things, it looks like he either might be or the sentiment continues

Idk if that'll ever change, but hey at least there are wrestlers who can own up and try and change their mentality, so I give props to the Briscoes for that, who knows if it'll overshadow their careers until they're done, but that's been the reasoning as of now.

While I trust what I have heard that they have changed I am still glad that the queer demographic is important enough to them to make that call

I still have my apprehensions about their 'change' but I really think Jay just putting out a tweet like 'Hey sorry guys I don't believe you should all be shot anymore, I've really grown and shit' or in any way expressing that change publicly rather than to the co-workers it is advantageous for him to be cordial with, would be a massive jump in setting right that image.

[Kalmia]

Nov 18, 2022 18:09:52 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Nov 18, 2022 17:47:14 GMT -5 "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay said:

While I trust what I have heard that they have changed I am still glad that the queer demographic is important enough to them to make that call

I still have my apprehensions about their 'change' but I really think Jay just putting out a tweet like 'Hey sorry guys I don't believe you should all be shot anymore, I've really grown and shit' or in any way expressing that change publicly rather than to the co-workers it is advantageous for him to be cordial with, would be a massive jump in setting right that image.

He has talked about it in interviews. From earlier this year:

I put out a stupid tweet nine years ago, the most dumbest, immature, obnoxious shit I’ve ever done. I don’t want anybody, from any walk of life, to feel like they can’t care for the Briscoes because I promise we love everybody. We love everybody and we just want to go out there and be pro wrestlers and give the best match that we can. I said some dumb shit a long time ago, I apologized for it and I’ll apologize for it again. It was stupid. I feel like now there are people who look at us like, ‘we can’t cheer for them because they hate a certain group of people.’ We don’t hate nobody. We love everybody. We’re just some country boys. I thought I was taking a stand for the Lord back in the day

It's from this interview > www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR4vv_zJGnk

Something on social media would be good though. More visible, easier to share.

[This Player Hating Mothman]

Nov 18, 2022 18:18:01 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

Nov 18, 2022 18:09:52 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

I still have my apprehensions about their 'change' but I really think Jay just putting out a tweet like 'Hey sorry guys I don't believe you should all be shot anymore, I've really grown and shit' or in any way expressing that change publicly rather than to the co-workers it is advantageous for him to be cordial with, would be a massive jump in setting right that image.

He has talked about it in interviews. From earlier this year:

I put out a stupid tweet nine years ago, the most dumbest, immature, obnoxious shit I’ve ever done. I don’t want anybody, from any walk of life, to feel like they can’t care for the Briscoes because I promise we love everybody. We love everybody and we just want to go out there and be pro wrestlers and give the best match that we can. I said some dumb shit a long time ago, I apologized for it and I’ll apologize for it again. It was stupid. I feel like now there are people who look at us like, ‘we can’t cheer for them because they hate a certain group of people.’ We don’t hate nobody. We love everybody. We’re just some country boys. I thought I was taking a stand for the Lord back in the day

It's from this interview > www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR4vv_zJGnk

Something on social media would be good though. More visible, easier to share.

Yeah this is the exact thing I want to see and had no idea existed because it was on a podcast with 812 subscribers. A more visible, seeable apology would definitely be in the guy's favour because people like me endu p with zero idea he ever said a word on the matter.

[LiamMcDuggle]

Guessing that it is about their homophobic comments from a decade ago. Have the Briscoes tried to reconcile and/or apologize for those comments?

I am all for second chances, but I do think you have to address your mistakes first

[asuka007]

A lot of people who know them have said they have genuinely changed and are trying to be better people these days.

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Nov 18, 2022 18:56:01 GMT -5 LiamMcDuggle said:

Guessing that it is about their homophobic comments from a decade ago. Have the Briscoes tried to reconcile and/or apologize for those comments?

I am all for second chances, but I do think you have to address your mistakes first

Yes they did, they were recently very open about it on a podcast they do as well and came off very well about it.

Ian frequents the FAN boards as well and has said they've very open and willing to listen and learn these days

Edit: You can see the quote above from it in another post

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Nov 18, 2022 18:23:30 GMT -5 This Player Hating Mothman said:

Nov 18, 2022 18:18:01 GMT -5 Kalmia said:

He has talked about it in interviews. From earlier this year:

It's from this interview > www.youtube.com/watch?v=lR4vv_zJGnk

Something on social media would be good though. More visible, easier to share.

Yeah this is the exact thing I want to see and had no idea existed because it was on a podcast with 812 subscribers. A more visible, seeable apology would definitely be in the guy's favour because people like me endu p with zero idea he ever said a word on the matter.

And honestly the reason for their hatred checks, a lot of super religious people especially back then thought hating gay people was "Fighting for what God believed in", and thankfully there have been a good number of those people who in the modern day have realized how f***ing stupid that sounds and have opened their minds way more about the topic of LGBTQ and acceptance.

And while he never denounced his brother for what he said, I do feel bad for Mark, because the dude never said or did anything, but he was Jay's brother and his career is essentially latched to his hip, so he suffered too. He could have felt the same way too I don't know, but I'm glad he's also put forth the same effort to show support now regardless.

[defectiveepitaph]

I don’t care for The Briscoes so I’m fine with never seeing them.

[FinalGwen]

Again, my metric is for them to do something to support one of the Drag Queen Storytime events whether financially or providing security, as it's the exact kind of 'teach my kids' situation that they railed at before and it's also something that's really being targeted with hatred at this exact moment and could use the help.

But my metrics aside, there are many talented tag teams out there without a spotlight who aren't associated with such advertiser friendly things as confederate flag imagery, stealing a fan's pride flag and using it to choke an opponent in 2018 knowing the optics, or y'know, threatening to murder queer people. Why do some people deserve dozens of second chances while others don't get the first chance?

[Mozenrath]

Nov 18, 2022 21:36:08 GMT -5 FinalGwen said:

Again, my metric is for them to do something to support one of the Drag Queen Storytime events whether financially or providing security, as it's the exact kind of 'teach my kids' situation that they railed at before and it's also something that's really being targeted with hatred at this exact moment and could use the help.

But my metrics aside, there are many talented tag teams out there without a spotlight who aren't associated with such advertiser friendly things as confederate flag imagery, stealing a fan's pride flag and using it to choke an opponent in 2018 knowing the optics, or y'know, threatening to murder queer people. Why do some people deserve dozens of second chances while others don't get the first chance?

Yeah, that'd be a great gesture, among some others.

I am willing to forgive, but the snippet makes it sound like he's made a bunch of apologies, and I'm sure he has in-person, but if you don't really put it out there, how will anyone know about it? And yeah, like you say, there's been no shortage of top talents out there, so I get why Warner has been unmoved so far.

I'm reminded of Scorpio Sky saying in interviews that he went to Sonny and Nyla, and some others I think, to proactively apologize for anti-queer comments he'd made in the past to clear the air, and he put that out there in interviews. That's a good way of handling it. I think too many people think that what's being asked for is groveling, but no, just, some contrition and an explanation is typically a good gesture.

[Chuck Conry]

Hasn't Effy even went to bat for Mark and Jay by publicly saying they are good people?

[Mozenrath]

Nov 19, 2022 2:26:13 GMT -5 Chuck Conry said:

Hasn't Effy even went to bat for Mark and Jay by publicly saying they are good people?

I don't doubt it, if so. I know others have.

That's part of what makes this frustrating. I don't know if he's just been trying to kayfabe or something, but Jay's inability to really say anything publicly about this for years and years screwed Mark and him out of money and opportunities.