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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 1, 2022 17:13:07 GMT -5
Seems strange to me; last week made sense with Thanksgiving Eve, even outperformed many predictions, but why the low number this week?
Hate to say it, but it's possible that Punk being out might've taken a portion of the audience away. Doesn't mean he should be brought back, mind you, but him leaving and the "soft reset" of the show's direction since All Out seems like it'll take some time to take with the viewing audience.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 1, 2022 17:15:04 GMT -5
It's up and it's down and it's all around
It's gonna probably be this way for the Holiday Season, a lot of people are gonna be doing shit that just isn't glued to a TV. RAW lost like half a million viewers from hour one this week too, so it's not just inherently an AEW thing
That being said, AEW is dead and in major trouble and going to die yesterday the end is nigh yadda yadda yadda.
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Post by flowercity on Dec 1, 2022 17:15:44 GMT -5
Lowest unopposed 18-49 ever. That’s….something
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 1, 2022 17:16:44 GMT -5
Lowest unopposed 18-49 ever. That’s….something The nerve of these people, on the week Jake Hager revealed he had TWO hats!
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Post by Lizuka #BLM on Dec 1, 2022 17:17:12 GMT -5
I don't think it's due to Punk leaving, since they held up for a good while afterward. I think it's more just that what's going on right now just isn't really capturing people, and is entirely possible doing the same tired swerve MJF always does turned people off to him.
Might also be in part due to the best-of series. Historically those and tournaments don't tend to draw well.
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Post by Denny Zen on Dec 1, 2022 17:19:03 GMT -5
I think this time of year is brutal for television ratings, generally. Lots of Holiday parties and travel going on and whatnot. I didn't watch the entire show this week because I was out-of-town at my parents' house.
This date last year, AEW drew a 861K and a .31. This date in 2020 (12/2/20), AEW drew a 913K and a .42. These numbers are commensurate with AEW's numbers for basically its entire existence.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 1, 2022 17:20:07 GMT -5
On their own the numbers aren't great. That demo number is pretty bad, actually. But Showbuzz doesn't have the full cable ratings yet, so I'd like to see what they are in context of everything else on.
Something else that doesn't get discussed a lot in these ratings threads is DVR+3 and +7. I wonder if a lot of people are deciding to skip it live in favor of something else and catching it on DVR instead. Like with Rampage, the DVR numbers are like half their total viewership, which makes their overall numbers look a lot more respectable than they do with just live numbers. But they have the excuse of being on an awful timeslot.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN on Dec 1, 2022 17:21:03 GMT -5
if Dynamite starts getting, like, Rampage numbers? I'll worry. In the meantime? Eh.*shrug*
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 1, 2022 17:21:23 GMT -5
I think this time of year is brutal for television ratings, generally. Lots of Holiday parties and travel going on and whatnot. I didn't watch the entire show this week because I was out-of-town at my parents' house. This date last year, AEW drew a 861K and a .31. This date in 2020 (12/2/20), AEW drew a 913K and a .42. These numbers are commensurate with AEW's numbers for basically its entire existence. Yeah while it's fair to wonder if it's just the current product not drawing usual eyes, people really have to remember it's the Holiday Season I was at WalMart today and there were hundreds of people there, it's only December 1st, but people are gonna be out and about all month as Christmas approaches. If you aren't a major sport, I feel like you're gonna take a hit
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Post by Cyno on Dec 1, 2022 17:27:40 GMT -5
It's gonna probably be this way for the Holiday Season, a lot of people are gonna be doing shit that just isn't glued to a TV. RAW lost like half a million viewers from hour one this week too, so it's not just inherently an AEW thing Huh, that's weird. I get a big drop from Hour 2 to Hour 3, but it's not like there was a riveting Monday Night Football game to keep people glued to ESPN like most weeks during the NFL season.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 1, 2022 17:28:39 GMT -5
Seems strange to me; last week made sense with Thanksgiving Eve, even outperformed many predictions, but why the low number this week? Hate to say it, but it's possible that Punk being out might've taken a portion of the audience away. Doesn't mean he should be brought back, mind you, but him leaving and the "soft reset" of the show's direction since All Out seems like it'll take some time to take with the viewing audience. When you lose the star you spent 1 year building ,revolving the show around and use the time putting over talent like Jay Lethal and the whole Roh weirdness takes time to recover.
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Post by asuka007 on Dec 1, 2022 17:29:07 GMT -5
I don't think it's due to Punk leaving, since they held up for a good while afterward. I think it's more just that what's going on right now just isn't really capturing people, and is entirely possible doing the same tired swerve MJF always does turned people off to him. Might also be in part due to the best-of series. Historically those and tournaments don't tend to draw well. Agreed. There’s just isn’t any one storyline that feels truly compelling or really captures fan’s interest right now.
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Post by flowercity on Dec 1, 2022 17:31:43 GMT -5
I don't think it's due to Punk leaving, since they held up for a good while afterward. I think it's more just that what's going on right now just isn't really capturing people, and is entirely possible doing the same tired swerve MJF always does turned people off to him. Might also be in part due to the best-of series. Historically those and tournaments don't tend to draw well. The business metrics that have declined all around the time of Punk’s departure is becoming too often of a coincidence. There was some buzz about the brand due to Brawl Out but it faded quickly. Someone needs to take the ball.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 1, 2022 17:34:46 GMT -5
They should have gone with the face MJF ,it was something unique and special.
But what I learned is that TK really likes to play safe.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 1, 2022 17:36:55 GMT -5
Seems strange to me; last week made sense with Thanksgiving Eve, even outperformed many predictions, but why the low number this week? Hate to say it, but it's possible that Punk being out might've taken a portion of the audience away. Doesn't mean he should be brought back, mind you, but him leaving and the "soft reset" of the show's direction since All Out seems like it'll take some time to take with the viewing audience. When you lose the star you spent 1 year building ,revolving the show around and use the time putting over talent like Jay Lethal and the whole Roh weirdness takes time to recover. Let's not act like they're putting Jay Lethal over, he's lost like 80 percent of the matches he's been in to other talents who are perceived as much better talents, at least.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Dec 1, 2022 17:37:50 GMT -5
They should have gone with the face MJF ,it was something unique and special. But what I learned is that TK really likes to play safe. The MJF segment this week was good, the ending especially with Regal had plenty of people talking I don't think it was the wrong decisions to have MJF be the ultimate villain, especially the one Regal helped make, and paid the price for it.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 1, 2022 17:38:27 GMT -5
Very weird number. Last week exceeded all expectations and this show had guys who have been over and draws before (Moxley, Page, MJF, Elite). Curious how the next few weeks go.
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Post by Nosnorb on Dec 1, 2022 17:42:30 GMT -5
When you lose the star you spent 1 year building ,revolving the show around and use the time putting over talent like Jay Lethal and the whole Roh weirdness takes time to recover. Let's not act like they're putting Jay Lethal over, he's lost like 80 percent of the matches he's been in to other talents who are perceived as much better talents, at least. He's still taking up TV time that could go to dudes a lot fresher than he is.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 1, 2022 17:42:57 GMT -5
They should have gone with the face MJF ,it was something unique and special. But what I learned is that TK really likes to play safe. The MJF segment this week was good, the ending especially with Regal had plenty of people talking I don't think it was the wrong decisions to have MJF be the ultimate villain, especially the one Regal helped make, and paid the price for it. Mjf is always good but as the quasi face jerk he was unique
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Post by Cyno on Dec 1, 2022 17:44:30 GMT -5
Jay Lethal being responsible for ratings dips feels like one of the more blatant examples of confirmation bias.
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