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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Apr 7, 2023 12:47:03 GMT -5
So reading about how allegedly that was the plan all along makes me plain think further than I do that WWE hates it’s audience and just loves to bait them into thinking something is going to happen and take it away just for the kick of doing it, knowing full well that a) they don’t need them to make money, the Saudis and Networks do that themselves and b) the audience is still going to watch because for most of them, that’s all they’ve ever know in terms of wrestling. I really, really hate being cynical like that because even everything Heyman says is disregarded by how much he, HHH and Vince have forgotten about booking wrestling than most of us fans know about doing it. Which is the problem, it feels like they’ve somehow forgotten most of it. And all the Endeaver merger is going to do is going to make them more bulletproof, not less. It’s just a sad state of affairs when there would be nowhere near as much discourse and debate if Cody just f***ing won. They’ve forgotten that yes, the chase can be good, but at the end, the good guy should just get the win over the villainous champion.
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Post by EP 54 is banned from Collision on Apr 7, 2023 12:59:04 GMT -5
When the heels continue to win by interference or cheating the same time every time, the faces are no longer protected, they are made to look stupid.
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Post by Final Countdown Jones on Apr 7, 2023 13:02:31 GMT -5
My power came down 49 hours ago while trying to make this exact post in this exact thread and it has been haunting me for days but here it is it wasn't worth it at all.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Apr 7, 2023 14:22:40 GMT -5
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Post by eJm on Apr 7, 2023 15:06:16 GMT -5
All you can do is laugh at this point.
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Post by Hypnosis on Apr 7, 2023 15:23:04 GMT -5
All you can do is laugh at this point. The shows are going to feel like they'll be in a serious holding pattern for a while.
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Post by bob on Apr 7, 2023 16:19:12 GMT -5
All you can do is laugh at this point. The shows are going to feel like they'll be in a serious holding pattern for a while. things have been like that for absentee champion Roman and absentee champion Brock
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Post by Main Event Mark on Apr 7, 2023 16:26:04 GMT -5
The grind of being on the road, all the travel etc has to be exhausting, But as an outsider, I would think most people would want to be part of shows in locations they don't run often.
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Post by mc74 on Apr 7, 2023 17:51:34 GMT -5
Heyman tries to make the argument Roman winning gets people looking forward to the next chapter, but like I said in another thread, there's really nothing left to write for this saga. Forget about the statistics. Forget about it being near the 1000 day mark. That shouldn't matter, nor should it be a priority when you're in a situation where you've got someone who's primed to be a big time babyface. I'd go out and vouch it's the best build to a Wrestlemania main event I've seen in years, no questions asked. The story was compelling, the promos were excellent, but unfortunately WWE failed to stick the landing, undoing all of that in one fell swoop.
With Wrestlemania being in one of the biggest markets in the country, and the entire atmosphere surrounding the show being in LA, this would've been the perfect opportunity to showcase a classic Hollywood ending, where Cody comes out the conquering hero in a hard-fought bout against the champ. He realizes his dream, wins the championship, and finishes the story. It doesn't get any better than that.
But it doesn't happen here. Instead, we get the same bullshit ending that typically comes with Roman defending his title....the very same thing that's been happening for the last 3 years. And now we've got people debating that Cody losing makes sense. Like, could you imagine if Austin lost to Michaels at Wrestlemania 14, if Batista lost to Triple H at Wrestlemania 21, or even if John Cena lost to JBL? That would've been foolish, and the same goes for Cody here. The big problem we have now is that despite all the build-up, all the hype that went into promoting the epic encounter between the two, Cody goes on to lose the match, rendering the everything else moot. Yeah, Cody can still hypothetically win the belt, but it's not going to have that epic feel to it. It's not going to come close to matching the level of momentum & hype that Cody had going into Mania.
Then there's people debating that Cody needs to overcome adversity, as if he already hadn't throughout his career. The guy had his struggles in the midcard & with the Stardust gimmick. He left WWE to make a name for himself, and when he did come back, he sustained a torn pectoral. On top of that, he's challenging the very guy who's been champion for the last 3 years, and you're telling me all these things aren't mountains Cody had to climb?
The entirety of the story is based on Cody's struggles and him overcoming adversity to get where he is today, and Wrestlemania would've been the climax of that very story. It cannot be stressed enough how damaging that loss at Wrestlemania was, and how it can hurt Cody from here on out. He's lost all his heat, the ending soured a lot of fans and gave them less reason to be invested in what happens next, and to make matters worse, he got flat-out decimated by Lesnar the next night on RAW. Coming back from that is going to be a tall order, and I don't think WWE is going to be able to match the same level of hype they had going into Wrestlemania.
So reading about how allegedly that was the plan all along makes me plain think further than I do that WWE hates it’s audience and just loves to bait them into thinking something is going to happen and take it away just for the kick of doing it, knowing full well that a) they don’t need them to make money, the Saudis and Networks do that themselves and b) the audience is still going to watch because for most of them, that’s all they’ve ever know in terms of wrestling. I really, really hate being cynical like that because even everything Heyman says is disregarded by how much he, HHH and Vince have forgotten about booking wrestling than most of us fans know about doing it. Which is the problem, it feels like they’ve somehow forgotten most of it. And all the Endeaver merger is going to do is going to make them more bulletproof, not less. It’s just a sad state of affairs when there would be nowhere near as much discourse and debate if Cody just f***ing won. It really is a sad state of affairs. It reminds me too, too much of shitty owners of sports teams who don't give a shit about the quality of the product, just as long as there are asses in seats and people still pay good money to see it.
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