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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 3, 2020 11:06:12 GMT -5
Well damn, losing the Rock to Hollywood paid off for Vince after all. He lost a draw but gained a money mark.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 31, 2020 17:16:47 GMT -5
Funhouse bray even kinda fits the mold of a Paul Bearer type hype man >_> I hadn't thought of that before, but it totally fits. Bray is somehow his own manager. Not in the usual sense of cutting his own promos, but as a separate(ish) character who can show up and getting beaten up without ruining his client's mystique.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 31, 2020 15:18:53 GMT -5
...their top merch seller on the fulltime roster right now is a reality-warping demon clown.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 31, 2020 10:05:55 GMT -5
That time he convinced Paul London to club a midget to death was awesome.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 30, 2020 21:39:32 GMT -5
Now I want to see them in a training montage where Cage shows Starks his "secret" for looking liking he's on steroids. Ricky plays along thinking they're going to be shooting up some HGH when Cage whips out of a magical gauntlet possessed by a malevolent Aztec god and starts going on about how he's better than Rollins at ripping out eyeballs.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 30, 2020 21:24:41 GMT -5
But is current Cena more famous than Current Steve Austin? I'd say yes. Austin's weird compared to the others that in spite of peaking so high (on par or maybe even above peak Hogan), it was a very brief, immediately-dated bit of the late '90s zeitgeist, and he's largely faded out of pop cultural consciousness since then.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 30, 2020 12:58:28 GMT -5
That's a good question. It probably depends on the age range you're asking; Hogan's only a nostalgia thing these days, but I'm not sure Cena's really broken out significantly enough to eclipse that yet.
Either way, it's the Rock and Bautista at #1 and #2.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 29, 2020 21:11:06 GMT -5
As for Ryder though, yeah, he is there because he's Cody's friend and no other reason. For all his limitations, he got a MSG crowd chanting "WE WANT RYDER WOO WOO WOO" at the Rock. When you make it that far, it's on the bookers for not working around your weaknesses.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 29, 2020 20:24:17 GMT -5
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 28, 2020 20:49:29 GMT -5
Drew doesnt draw women for some reason It's the dingleberries.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 26, 2020 20:50:42 GMT -5
I got into wrestling with Undertaker vs Yokozuna, the feud where the zombie man gets beaten when his magic urn is stolen by the baddies and his spirit ascends out of the arena.
It was honestly a surprise to me the first time I got a "You know it's fake, right?" response when mentioning my enjoyment of pro wrestling, because it'd never even occured to me that anybody watched this thinking it was real.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 26, 2020 11:39:23 GMT -5
Letting a fat teenager wrestle a hardcore match against New Jack?
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 25, 2020 16:06:08 GMT -5
Agreed. I don’t think it’s that Vince doesn’t want to build stars or doesn’t think he needs to. Instead I think it’s that he just doesn’t know how to anymore; and/or he gets so fixated on pushing those he envisions as new stars that he misses those who are actually getting over. Then when none of them become stars, he panics & reverts back to the aged stars of the past, who have proven track records but no longer have the drawing power they once did. It’s an endless cycle. I’d just like to add that it’s ironic that he suddenly knew how to book Goldberg properly 17 years after he actually had the dude on his roster not far after his prime. It's why I can never be mad about Goldberg's big wins over the last few years, even though they're objectively a terrible idea. For decades, Vince and Hunter tried to downplay and undermine anyone and anything that WCW got over to suit their narrative. Then they ran all their own nostalgia acts into the ground through overuse, couldn't build any new stars, and had to go crawling back to Goldberg and treat him like a megastar after all, because he's one of the only guys left who can generate the (dwindling) veteran pop and ratings spike.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 24, 2020 16:36:13 GMT -5
It's not even picking the wrong guys. People actually like Drew and apparently want him to succeed, but he's still not going to move the needle at all as long as he's slogging through the same stale, formulaic product they've been churning out since the turn of the century.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 24, 2020 1:17:11 GMT -5
It should be all Vince McMahons in the crowd. Every single one, bodies of different ages and genders, but with Vince's head grafted on. And they do his corny fake laugh from '90s commentary, and chant "GOOD SHIT PAL" when they like what they see.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 22, 2020 15:38:35 GMT -5
And then Hogan comes back to squash them.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 21, 2020 1:22:28 GMT -5
They're doing blatantly Final Deletion-inspired matches on nearly every big show now, often as the featured main event.
After decades of the overall presentation/style being stuck in 1998, that's pretty f***ing shocking.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 21, 2020 1:07:16 GMT -5
Should have picked a stipulation of where you have to rip your opponents tongue from his mouth. Should be a Loser Changes His Name To Evan Bourne Match.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 20, 2020 17:20:46 GMT -5
It's more a cultural than a promotional thing, but I really am struck by the difference between how AAA is presenting their Covid precautions compared to WWE or even AEW. The US companies are trying to smooth things over so the viewer doesn't have to think about the crisis, whereas AAA is actively drawing attention to the steps they're taking. I noticed on the Lucha Fighter shows that they had the refs in full face masks and gloves, and here their promo package is highlighting clips of the wrestlers and the ring getting sprayed with disinfectant.
Anyway, very interested to see how this is going to play out, both in terms of logistics and whether this is actually a sustainable model for turning a profit.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Jul 19, 2020 16:58:47 GMT -5
You would likely get Mesias and not Mil because I believe the reason he is allowed to use the gimmick is because he has been only using it on the indies and not on television. Also from what I have heard his back is all jacked up anyways so without that sweet post-edit could be yikes. And also from a personal feeling it just would not be the same...none of the vingettes that enhances the character , no gawd damn epic shrine to the dead , and most importantly no Catrina. All valid points. The fact that he wasn't really looking for high profile US work post-LU until Covid effectively shut down Mexico tells me he's probably in the winding down stage of his career. But shit, Mil Muertes was so awesome. Even if it's just for a couple one-off matches, I'd be hyped as f*** to see him in AEW as another monster for Mox to to take down. (The name isn't a big deal, IMO. Tweak the mask design a bit and call him Mesias de la Muerte or something. It's the mannerisms and body language that made the character, and those aren't copyrighted.)
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