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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 28, 2020 19:00:45 GMT -5
Moxley vs LA Park needs to headline the AEW vs AAA dream card that'll never actually happen.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 28, 2020 16:20:11 GMT -5
Four
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 27, 2020 21:12:33 GMT -5
Can we take a minute to marvel that Penta and Fenix went from headlining against Omega and the Bucks at AEW's inception to filling out the opener battle royale two years later?
What the f*** happened? I can't think of any good answers, and frankly I can't think of any answers that reflect worse on the Lucha Bros than on the folks booking them.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 26, 2020 12:44:04 GMT -5
Becky Lynch vs Pentagon
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 26, 2020 0:13:37 GMT -5
It's almost as if context and presentation matter and create entirely different expectations and understanding of storytelling and wrestling match presentation within a product. But it can't be that. Oh crap, I forgot this is the AEW board where you can't have a negative opinion without someone responding in a condescending manner instead of just replying like a normal person. Rofl. If it was CM Punk challenging Orange Cassidy to the Mimosa Madness match, we'd see extended essays on here about how it's Punk's commentary on how Orange Cassidy fandom is really an allegory for alcohol addiction, both delusional escapes from reality that are ultimately hollow and self-destructive. Clearly, the intention is for CM Punk to be the babyface in his feud against the heel Orange Cassidy, saving both AEW and we the audience from the mind-numbing horror of a comedy wrestler with insufficient workrate, and it's a tragedy that we have to share pro wrestling with the philistine normies who are unable to recognize the subtle complexities behind this angle.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 24, 2020 21:18:31 GMT -5
Looking over wiki's listings of who's held the world titles (any of the three of them *groan*) in WWE, the closest alternative I can think of is Ziggler, who I never even realized was a 2-time world champ. Dolph's a better performer, but I feel like Alberto at least stands out for anyone who was watching at the time as this constant presence who way too much TV time was devoted to trying to get over, whereas Dolph's been around forever as just sorta another part of the show, with his peak being maybe the 3rd or 4th popular guy among smarks during the post-Pipebomb era, with the pops for him never amounting to enough to get any bones thrown his way like they did for Punk or Bryan.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 24, 2020 19:31:38 GMT -5
A lot of her stuff feels like it's dated incredibly fast due to all the strides in recent years towards taking womens' wrestling seriously, but really AJ Lee's legacy is dragging WWE's standards for sex appeal beyond last century's busty faux-Pamela Andersons into a new era of quirky geeky faux-Olivia Munns. And it's stuck; the biggest womens' star in wrestling today got over pitching herself as a steampunk cosplayer. Even a more traditional cheerleader type like Alexa does the whole hot topic goth clown superheroine thing nowadays.
That might not sound as glamorous as getting over on the merits of your in-ring ability, but getting over enough to make WWE reevaluate ANYTHING about its presentation that's still mired in the '90s is an extraordinary, herculean achievement.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 24, 2020 15:09:55 GMT -5
They've got a lot in common, really. Multigenerational talents who were pegged at an early age to become top megastars, utterly failed to live up to expectations on any of their pushes, but were still given a floor to settle at that's comfortably above the glass ceiling that 90% of talent spends their careers futilely banging their heads against.
Orton's got tenure, but Roman's got the advantage of not coming up at the same time as a legitimately charismatic rival (or at least, none who were allowed to surpass him like Cena over Randy). I'd give it to Reigns overall for his quartet of Wrestlemania main events, but really both their successes have been so shallow that if either one of them actually managed to break out with an audience outside the McMahon family, it'd immediately overshadow every fake accolade they've both received to date.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 24, 2020 15:02:15 GMT -5
That's really a classy, professional way to make your exit, especially considering we're talking about a company that bribed its way into operating under unsafe working conditions and exposed her to a pandemic.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 23, 2020 16:27:00 GMT -5
I guess the difference is that Roman is kinda sorta related to the Rock, but is that really what makes the difference in Vince’s mind? I've been saying it on here since 2013, and I still believe to this day that Roman Reigns' booking across the entirety of his WWE run has been built off some offhand remark the Rock made backstage a decade ago that he might be interested in coming back to work a match against his cousin sometime.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 22, 2020 22:21:04 GMT -5
He's Retribution.
I don't mean he's leading Retribution, I mean Keith Lee is literally Retribution. The little ninja guys fusion dance together and combine to form Keith Lee.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 22, 2020 1:00:36 GMT -5
Finn's whole gimmick would be inspired by THAT sign.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 21, 2020 2:12:04 GMT -5
Wrestlemania Underground
Live from Shane's basement.
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Bulldog
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 19, 2020 20:19:17 GMT -5
IIRC, they were playing it up at the time like Bulldog and Lex might both be going heel and aligning with Mabel together. When Luger comes out to help Diesel at Summerslam '95, Vince on commentary is acting like he doesn't know whose side Lex is on.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 19, 2020 18:11:58 GMT -5
Cass scares me in real life. I know he has mental issues but the guy seems genuinely unhinged and unpredictable. It was the right call to get rid of him. As for Enzo... I was always a big fan of the guy. Not great in the ring but character wise, he is everything a wrestler should be IMO. Over the top, larger than life, great mic skills and catchphrases... The guy could've been HUGE. I will say that Enzo was the best promo man in a LONG time. Might still be today.Dude knew how to have the crowd in the palm of his hand Enzo's one of the only guys to debut after I stopped watching WWE regularly who still caught my attention enough that I'd check out what they were doing with him on YouTube. He had that '80s coked-up madman quality where he was simultaneously a completely unbelievable cartoon and yet more believable than everybody else in the sense that it clearly wasn't an act and he was incapable of ever turning it off. I'm not really surprised he managed to alienate anybody and everybody who might ever employ him and I don't really blame them, but damn if he wasn't fun to watch.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 18, 2020 19:04:23 GMT -5
I legit thought this thread was going to be comparing CM Punk and AJ Lee.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 18, 2020 17:01:22 GMT -5
I mean, Cass blew a lucrative career, but he DID get to beat up a midget.
Gotta stay true to yourself, man.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 17, 2020 16:38:42 GMT -5
I had a conversation with Vince and he told me that with Rusev Day, they were just mocking me, they didn't mean it That's some bad shit pal
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 16, 2020 20:02:26 GMT -5
My opinion hasn't really changed since your last thread about the idea, but with their lack of star power and how unlikely it looks that anybody new's going to break out anytime soon, this is actually looking more and more likely. Orton's one of the closest things to a big name guy they've got left on the fulltime roster.
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Post by rnrk supports BLM on Aug 15, 2020 4:51:10 GMT -5
The idea isn't that R-Truth shouldn't be doing what he's doing now, but like Mark Henry they could've got a solid year or two of ME/upper midcard threat out of him before cycling him back down. Instead his main event run only lasted a couple of months In fairness, the buyrate was catastrophic, wasn't it? If you mean Capitol Punishment, the sole PPV headlined by R-Truth in a singles match, then no, it wasn't. It was in line with the other B-level PPVs that year, up from Cena vs Miz the month before, and actually outperformed Triple H vs Punk a couple months later in worldwide buys.
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