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Post by Agent P on Dec 31, 2007 12:42:14 GMT -5
I think Madden was fired for comments he made to a newspaper. Really? Never knew that, what was it that he said? Not that I was sad or anything because his overly smarky commentary got really annoying fast. From wikipedia: Shortly before the WCW organization dissolved in 2001, Madden was fired for making disparaging remarks about the company, lobbying for the return of the fired Scott Hall, and disclosing information about the sale of WCW. This is from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: WCW bosses give Madden the boot Local sports radio host loses job as color man Wednesday, January 03, 2001 By Cristina Rouvalis, Post-Gazette Staff Writer Mark Madden has been body slammed by World Championship Wrestling. A color commentator with a bad-guy persona, Madden lost his high-profile job on TNT's Monday Nitro. Madden -- a combative Pittsburgh personality with a talk radio show and a weekly Post-Gazette column -- ran afoul of WCW management for on-air remarks about the company and several of its performers. Madden declined comment on the dismissal in late December. Officials at WCW, a subsidiary of Time Warner's Broadcasting System, could not be reached for comment yesterday. But Dave Meltzer, editor of the San Jose, Calif.-based Wrestling Observer Newsletter, said Madden was dismissed after he made a flip remark about the rumored sale of the financially troubled WCW and called for the return of fired superstar Scott Hall. Meltzer said wrestlers such as Kevin Nash have repeatedly crusaded for Hall's return to TNT broadcasts, but Madden was singled out. "The company is totally out of control," Meltzer said. "They felt they needed to send a message. Madden was a scapegoat. He is no angel. He probably should have been reprimanded over the Scott Hall remark. But for him to be fired, when no one else is even reprimanded, is mind-boggling." Meltzer said Madden also had been suspended recently for calling Diamond Dallas Page "leather- face." Madden's abrupt, in-your-face persona -- one that Pittsburghers tend to love or hate -- might have hurt his chances to stay in the lucrative, trashing-talking world of wrestling. Meltzer said Madden also lost his job as a reporter for WCW's hotline, Internet site and a magazine. "He is not shy about giving his opinions," Meltzer said. "He is not shy about complaining. In wrestling, they just want sheep who don't complain." On a Web site called www.pwtorch.com/, Madden defended himself by saying: "When I was told to stop talking about the sale of [WCW], I did stop talking about the sale. When I was told to stop talking about Scott Hall, I did stop talking about Scott Hall a month before anyone else did. If those are the reasons I was let go, frankly, they don't hold water." He also said: "I'd love to work in wrestling again. If I don't ... I think I did very well for myself." Meltzer estimates Madden made about $150,000 a year as a WCW announcer. He was hired as a color commentator a year ago but was first hired by the company in 1994 and has worked for the wrestling magazine, a phone hotline and an Internet site. He was fired once before in the spring of 1997 but was rehired seven weeks later. In the past year, Madden even climbed into the ring a few times, but Meltzer called that wrestling experiment, concocted by management, a disaster. Like his persona on his sports radio talk show on WEAE-AM (1250), Madden's ringside personality was viewed as wickedly funny or thoroughly obnoxious. He called himself the best-looking big guy in wrestling. Meltzer's newsletter has an annual poll rating the best and worst pro wrestling announcers, and Madden garnered many votes in both columns. "People either loved him or hated him," Meltzer said. "There is no in between with Mark Madden." |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 31, 2007 14:30:39 GMT -5
Really? Never knew that, what was it that he said? Not that I was sad or anything because his overly smarky commentary got really annoying fast. From wikipedia: Shortly before the WCW organization dissolved in 2001, Madden was fired for making disparaging remarks about the company, lobbying for the return of the fired Scott Hall, and disclosing information about the sale of WCW. This is from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: WCW bosses give Madden the boot Local sports radio host loses job as color man Wednesday, January 03, 2001 By Cristina Rouvalis, Post-Gazette Staff Writer Mark Madden has been body slammed by World Championship Wrestling. A color commentator with a bad-guy persona, Madden lost his high-profile job on TNT's Monday Nitro. Madden -- a combative Pittsburgh personality with a talk radio show and a weekly Post-Gazette column -- ran afoul of WCW management for on-air remarks about the company and several of its performers. Madden declined comment on the dismissal in late December. Officials at WCW, a subsidiary of Time Warner's Broadcasting System, could not be reached for comment yesterday. But Dave Meltzer, editor of the San Jose, Calif.-based Wrestling Observer Newsletter, said Madden was dismissed after he made a flip remark about the rumored sale of the financially troubled WCW and called for the return of fired superstar Scott Hall. Meltzer said wrestlers such as Kevin Nash have repeatedly crusaded for Hall's return to TNT broadcasts, but Madden was singled out. "The company is totally out of control," Meltzer said. "They felt they needed to send a message. Madden was a scapegoat. He is no angel. He probably should have been reprimanded over the Scott Hall remark. But for him to be fired, when no one else is even reprimanded, is mind-boggling." Meltzer said Madden also had been suspended recently for calling Diamond Dallas Page "leather- face." Madden's abrupt, in-your-face persona -- one that Pittsburghers tend to love or hate -- might have hurt his chances to stay in the lucrative, trashing-talking world of wrestling. Meltzer said Madden also lost his job as a reporter for WCW's hotline, Internet site and a magazine. "He is not shy about giving his opinions," Meltzer said. "He is not shy about complaining. In wrestling, they just want sheep who don't complain." On a Web site called www.pwtorch.com/, Madden defended himself by saying: "When I was told to stop talking about the sale of [WCW], I did stop talking about the sale. When I was told to stop talking about Scott Hall, I did stop talking about Scott Hall a month before anyone else did. If those are the reasons I was let go, frankly, they don't hold water." He also said: "I'd love to work in wrestling again. If I don't ... I think I did very well for myself." Meltzer estimates Madden made about $150,000 a year as a WCW announcer. He was hired as a color commentator a year ago but was first hired by the company in 1994 and has worked for the wrestling magazine, a phone hotline and an Internet site. He was fired once before in the spring of 1997 but was rehired seven weeks later. In the past year, Madden even climbed into the ring a few times, but Meltzer called that wrestling experiment, concocted by management, a disaster. Like his persona on his sports radio talk show on WEAE-AM (1250), Madden's ringside personality was viewed as wickedly funny or thoroughly obnoxious. He called himself the best-looking big guy in wrestling. Meltzer's newsletter has an annual poll rating the best and worst pro wrestling announcers, and Madden garnered many votes in both columns. "People either loved him or hated him," Meltzer said. "There is no in between with Mark Madden." Not surprising, I remember he said that about DDP on a few occasions and Hogan as well. Even if they are old, you never mention it on TV, big mistake on his part. In any case, here's another moment in WCW 2000 history, Norman Smiley's reaction to the promo video about Glacier's return: www.dailymotion.com/Stinger1981/video/x3wpec_norman-smileys-reaction-to-glaciers_sport |
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Post by Sajoa Moe on Dec 31, 2007 14:39:59 GMT -5
I really hate when non-wrestling media tries to use wrestling terminology. "Bodyslam" being the most overused.
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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Dec 31, 2007 14:48:46 GMT -5
From wikipedia: Shortly before the WCW organization dissolved in 2001, Madden was fired for making disparaging remarks about the company, lobbying for the return of the fired Scott Hall, and disclosing information about the sale of WCW. This is from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: WCW bosses give Madden the boot Local sports radio host loses job as color man Wednesday, January 03, 2001 By Cristina Rouvalis, Post-Gazette Staff Writer Mark Madden has been body slammed by World Championship Wrestling. A color commentator with a bad-guy persona, Madden lost his high-profile job on TNT's Monday Nitro. Madden -- a combative Pittsburgh personality with a talk radio show and a weekly Post-Gazette column -- ran afoul of WCW management for on-air remarks about the company and several of its performers. Madden declined comment on the dismissal in late December. Officials at WCW, a subsidiary of Time Warner's Broadcasting System, could not be reached for comment yesterday. But Dave Meltzer, editor of the San Jose, Calif.-based Wrestling Observer Newsletter, said Madden was dismissed after he made a flip remark about the rumored sale of the financially troubled WCW and called for the return of fired superstar Scott Hall. Meltzer said wrestlers such as Kevin Nash have repeatedly crusaded for Hall's return to TNT broadcasts, but Madden was singled out. "The company is totally out of control," Meltzer said. "They felt they needed to send a message. Madden was a scapegoat. He is no angel. He probably should have been reprimanded over the Scott Hall remark. But for him to be fired, when no one else is even reprimanded, is mind-boggling." Meltzer said Madden also had been suspended recently for calling Diamond Dallas Page "leather- face." Madden's abrupt, in-your-face persona -- one that Pittsburghers tend to love or hate -- might have hurt his chances to stay in the lucrative, trashing-talking world of wrestling. Meltzer said Madden also lost his job as a reporter for WCW's hotline, Internet site and a magazine. "He is not shy about giving his opinions," Meltzer said. "He is not shy about complaining. In wrestling, they just want sheep who don't complain." On a Web site called www.pwtorch.com/, Madden defended himself by saying: "When I was told to stop talking about the sale of [WCW], I did stop talking about the sale. When I was told to stop talking about Scott Hall, I did stop talking about Scott Hall a month before anyone else did. If those are the reasons I was let go, frankly, they don't hold water." He also said: "I'd love to work in wrestling again. If I don't ... I think I did very well for myself." Meltzer estimates Madden made about $150,000 a year as a WCW announcer. He was hired as a color commentator a year ago but was first hired by the company in 1994 and has worked for the wrestling magazine, a phone hotline and an Internet site. He was fired once before in the spring of 1997 but was rehired seven weeks later. In the past year, Madden even climbed into the ring a few times, but Meltzer called that wrestling experiment, concocted by management, a disaster. Like his persona on his sports radio talk show on WEAE-AM (1250), Madden's ringside personality was viewed as wickedly funny or thoroughly obnoxious. He called himself the best-looking big guy in wrestling. Meltzer's newsletter has an annual poll rating the best and worst pro wrestling announcers, and Madden garnered many votes in both columns. "People either loved him or hated him," Meltzer said. "There is no in between with Mark Madden." Not surprising, I remember he said that about DDP on a few occasions and Hogan as well. Even if they are old, you never mention it on TV, big mistake on his part. In any case, here's another moment in WCW 2000 history, Norman Smiley's reaction to the promo video about Glacier's return: www.dailymotion.com/Stinger1981/video/x3wpec_norman-smileys-reaction-to-glaciers_sportGlacier's return was hilarious! He came back as a parody of himself. Thanks for posting all this stuff. All your videos bring back alot of great memories for me! |
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Post by Lenny: Smooth like Keith Stone on Dec 31, 2007 14:52:14 GMT -5
LOL, wow I never knew Glacier had a "second coming"! How successful was it? From what I remember, didn't his first run end with him basically killing the character by coming out in regular clothes and selling the Glacier costume to Kaz Hayashi? That is the last that I remember of Glacier. Was that mentioned at all during his second run, or did they basically just forget about it? EDIT: The post above me may have answered my question. If he came back as a parody of himself, I could see him being a "Blue Blazer" type of over-the-top good guy hero. Anyone have any footage of it? It sounds funny. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 31, 2007 16:08:24 GMT -5
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Post by drjayphd (feat. Pitbull) on Dec 31, 2007 17:28:07 GMT -5
I really hate when non-wrestling media tries to use wrestling terminology. "Bodyslam" being the most overused.    |
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Post by Timmy8271 on Dec 31, 2007 20:04:29 GMT -5
I still think WCW 98-99 was much worse than WCW 2000. All the politics and NWO overkill was just horrible. I will always say WCW really died at Starcade 97. It all went downhill from there.
WCW 2000 is good in a wrestlecrap type way.
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Dec 31, 2007 20:21:45 GMT -5
Exactly. If people can appreciate WSX for all of its hokey crap, why not WCW 2000?
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Dec 31, 2007 20:53:30 GMT -5
Exactly. If people can appreciate WSX for all of its hokey crap, why not WCW 2000? Because it at least had great matches amidst some crappy booking. WSX just seemed like a backyard wrestling fed that got TV. |
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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Jan 1, 2008 18:23:36 GMT -5
I was actually asking why WCW 2000 gets dumped on more than WSX does.
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2008 18:25:33 GMT -5
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Post by The Line on Jan 1, 2008 18:31:54 GMT -5
I was actually asking why WCW 2000 gets dumped on more than WSX does. I think part of it was WCW was at one point pretty good, and then just got bad. WSX was the same on its final day as it was on Day 1. |
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 1, 2008 18:44:55 GMT -5
I hated that so much. Goldberg was a moron for falling for it |
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Post by El Dandy on Jan 1, 2008 19:14:54 GMT -5
Anyone remember the 'dog attack' involving Sting and the Steiner Brothers? Boy was that silly stuff. Oh and the obvious stunt man lit on fire to jump from the top of the Nitro-tron thing.
Some of those over the top antics didn't impress many fans maybe because of their poor execution and very poor editing job (cutting through various angles to avoid showing the obvious stuntman doubling in for Sting).
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 1, 2008 19:16:26 GMT -5
Anyone remember the 'dog attack' involving Sting and the Steiner Brothers? Boy was that silly stuff. Oh and the obvious stunt man lit on fire to jump from the top of the Nitro-tron thing. Some of those over the top antics didn't impress many fans maybe because of their poor execution and very poor editing job (cutting through various angles to avoid showing the obvious stuntman doubling in for Sting). I remember the "dog attack", it took place at the Great American Bash 1999. It was horrible. Agreed on the torch match with Sting and Vampiro, though I was never really into their feud to begin with. Speaking of Sting, here's a match with him vs. Kevin Nash from WCW's successful tour of Australia: www.dailymotion.com/Stinger1981/video/x3vpd6_sting-vs-kevin-nashlumberjack-match_sport |
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Post by YouStayClassy on Jan 1, 2008 20:09:13 GMT -5
Pants wettingly hilarious! Man, I hope WWE signs SmilAy. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 2, 2008 8:17:57 GMT -5
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Post by Mongo & Pepe: Back in Black on Jan 2, 2008 13:34:59 GMT -5
Was the fan that maced Goldberg ever mentioned again? I don't recall. And, the crowd actually popped a little bit when Goldberg lost. |
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Post by Hiroshi Hase on Jan 2, 2008 14:05:09 GMT -5
Was the fan that maced Goldberg ever mentioned again? I don't recall. And, the crowd actually popped a little bit when Goldberg lost. Nah, he was just a nameless plant hired by Flair, I think they mentioned him once and that was it. The crowd did cheer a bit for the loss, but in the ensuing weeks that was the only guy they were chanting for at the end of the Nitros. |
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