Ben Wyatt
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I don't get it. At all. It's kind of a small horse, I mean what am I missing? Am I crazy?
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Jan 29, 2008 16:58:15 GMT -5
Bingo. WWE does not care if you boo Cena. As long as he gets a strong reaction, WWE will continue to do business as is. If you really want to show your dissatisfaction with Cena, sit on your hands and shut up. Silence is the only way to get WWE's attention. I find it amusing when people on the Raw threads have an orgasm over crowds booing him, despite the fact that they've been booing him for the better part of 2 years and it hasnt really accmplished anything. For better or worse the guy is getting the biggest reactions of the night, and as long as that is the case, he's going to be the star of the company. And while Im here, I want to point out how asinine it is when a small segment of people get all up in arms over kids cheering for him. Congrats, you can come on a wrestling forum and make fun of 7-10 year olds for cheering their hero. I guess you never idolized a wrestler when you were a kid. End Rant. PS: Funny enough, after all that.... I dont really like Cena all that much |
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Post by varzens on Jan 29, 2008 20:13:11 GMT -5
You want an honest answer?
If he came back from injury and got a title shot, I wouldn't mind, since he hadn't lost the title per se.
But by winning the freaking royal rumble he's stealing the spot from someone else...
I mean... Royal Rumble was won by Raw, Elimination Chamber will involve Raw superstars...
I don't watch Smackdown nor ECW, but I would also like for them to get something to make the Nr 1 Contender in Smackdown (or ECW, for that matter) seem important. If it's a simple Nr 1 Contender's match for a title shot at WM, I sure as hell will be saying "why are these the only 2 guys involved in this match? There are other superstars they could choose..."
These are my 2 cents...
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Post by jamofpearls on Jan 29, 2008 20:54:23 GMT -5
I agree w/ what the person said about saying he sucks. I've never been one to say that someone sucks at doing something, like a band or wrestler. Cause, I've never been in a band, so i don't know what it takes to write songs or go on tour. Or in the case of being a wrestler. I don't know what it takes to be on the road all that time, and go and do shows infront of thousands of people.
That being said. I do not now, or never have liked the John Cena character. It just doesn't appeal to me. Not when he was heel or face. It has nothing to do w/ his talent, or mic work. Whenever he has come on my screen, i've just groaned.
Now, as far as people saying "you would have preferred the alternative of HHH vs Orton at mania?" I say no, I really wanted Hardy chasing the title culminating in a big title win in the main event at Mania. But that doesn't look like it will happen now.
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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jan 29, 2008 20:54:52 GMT -5
You want an honest answer? If he came back from injury and got a title shot, I wouldn't mind, since he hadn't lost the title per se. But by winning the freaking royal rumble he's stealing the spot from someone else... I mean... Royal Rumble was won by Raw, Elimination Chamber will involve Raw superstars... I don't watch Smackdown nor ECW, but I would also like for them to get something to make the Nr 1 Contender in Smackdown (or ECW, for that matter) seem important. If it's a simple Nr 1 Contender's match for a title shot at WM, I sure as hell will be saying "why are these the only 2 guys involved in this match? There are other superstars they could choose..." These are my 2 cents... Stealing the spot from someone else! Like it was his idea!  Honestly, this board amazes me sometimes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2008 22:32:11 GMT -5
To actually answer the OP, WWE hasn't given me a reason to give him a chance. I didn't enjoy Raw's main event scene when Cena was reigning for over a year beating everyone I'm a fan of. I wasn't a fan of the Superman booking Cena got, I wasn't a fan of his promos, and while I was coming around to his in ring work I still wasn't overly impressed on any regular basis. Cena just isn't a guy I'm likely to become a fan of. Now upon his return he wins the second biggest match of the year immediately, goes right in to a his title program, is going to end up headlining Mania over Jeff Hardy (who I'm a much bigger fan of), and odds are I'll watch him tap out another one of my favorites whether it's HHH or not. So far I'm not seeing a reason to think Superman booking is over, and until that day comes it isn't looking good for me ever becoming a fan of his. I know he's WWE's biggest draw, I know most fans love him, and I know my opinion is a minority one. That doesn't really matter though. I'm watching for me, not the 20,000 in attendance or the 3.4 watching at home. When I say I want something to happen, it's because I know I'll enjoy it. Even if it's CM Punk as World Champion or Paul London getting a push to US Champion. Probably not the best move for WWE, but I'm not booking them, they are. I can hope for it all I want. Cena just isn't someone I like, or am probably ever likely too. Thank you for keepin' it real. |
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Jan 29, 2008 22:40:59 GMT -5
Right, he hasn't done much yet. It's not like he won the 2008 Royal Rumble, and has a good chance to become WWE champ again for another 23 months. Oh....
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Post by ilikeRusso. on Jan 30, 2008 0:06:33 GMT -5
Played him for my First chracter in HCTP on PS2 and i've never liked him as much when i was Fuing Lesnar through the tables.
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Post by ilikeRusso. on Jan 30, 2008 0:07:55 GMT -5
"He's a hard working guy whos doing a fantastic job of playing his role in the WWE"
Define hard working he hasn't exactly put his body on the line at all in a wrestling event since 2004.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 30, 2008 0:43:39 GMT -5
Could you Cena defenders please stop having to make the detractors clarify they are talking about the character not the man? Kthxby.
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Post by Solid Stryk-Dizzle on Jan 30, 2008 0:48:20 GMT -5
"He's a hard working guy whos doing a fantastic job of playing his role in the WWE" Define hard working he hasn't exactly put his body on the line at all in a wrestling event since 2004. So in order to be a hard worker, he needs to throw himself off of things every night? |
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Always and Forever, Hurricane.
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Post by Boku AKA Da Green Guy on Jan 30, 2008 1:13:24 GMT -5
To actually answer the OP, WWE hasn't given me a reason to give him a chance. I didn't enjoy Raw's main event scene when Cena was reigning for over a year beating everyone I'm a fan of. I wasn't a fan of the Superman booking Cena got, I wasn't a fan of his promos, and while I was coming around to his in ring work I still wasn't overly impressed on any regular basis. Cena just isn't a guy I'm likely to become a fan of. Now upon his return he wins the second biggest match of the year immediately, goes right in to a his title program, is going to end up headlining Mania over Jeff Hardy (who I'm a much bigger fan of), and odds are I'll watch him tap out another one of my favorites whether it's HHH or not. So far I'm not seeing a reason to think Superman booking is over, and until that day comes it isn't looking good for me ever becoming a fan of his. I know he's WWE's biggest draw, I know most fans love him, and I know my opinion is a minority one. That doesn't really matter though. I'm watching for me, not the 20,000 in attendance or the 3.4 watching at home. When I say I want something to happen, it's because I know I'll enjoy it. Even if it's CM Punk as World Champion or Paul London getting a push to US Champion. Probably not the best move for WWE, but I'm not booking them, they are. I can hope for it all I want. Cena just isn't someone I like, or am probably ever likely too. I think if most smarks were to formulate their opinions like that, then internet fans wouldn't get so much flack as opposed to some of the stuff I've read on various forums. I think most smarks are. Just most anti-smarks make that assumption. I don't think Hurricane should have a Hogan push. I marked out huge for him but even I realize he shouldn't get a push like that. |
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Jan 30, 2008 1:35:48 GMT -5
I miss the Throwbacks.
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Post by chunkylover53 on Jan 30, 2008 1:45:47 GMT -5
Wait until Jeff Hardy becomes WWE champion and the IWC will chew him up like vultures. Get your popcorn ready, its going to be sweet.
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Jan 30, 2008 2:03:16 GMT -5
"He's a hard working guy whos doing a fantastic job of playing his role in the WWE" Define hard working he hasn't exactly put his body on the line at all in a wrestling event since 2004. thats the most asinine thing i've ever read on this board. he puts his career and body on the line every time he steps foot in the ring, as does every wrestler. you're obivously not a wrestler, so you obviously woulsn't understand. that comment just made me lose faith in some people posting on this board a little bit... |
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Jan 30, 2008 2:04:52 GMT -5
Could you Cena defenders please stop having to make the detractors clarify they are talking about the character not the man? Kthxby. thank you for your insight. when you say "john cena sucks" you're not saying "john cena is booked improperly"... big difference. then again, you're just johnny 24 posts who shows up, posts for a day to try and get your "opinion" out there, then forgets you're registered here... and you'll probably never read this anyway, so whats the use |
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Post by A Dubya (El Hombre Muerto) on Jan 30, 2008 2:06:14 GMT -5
I'll admit I'm not a Jeff Hardy fan at all, but if he were to win the title, I'd get more enjoyment out of it than if I watched another Cena win and subsequent run, with him killing ever major star on the Raw (and SmackdECWn) roster.
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 30, 2008 2:16:38 GMT -5
Could you Cena defenders please stop having to make the detractors clarify they are talking about the character not the man? Kthxby. thank you for your insight. when you say "john cena sucks" you're not saying "john cena is booked improperly"... big difference. then again, you're just johnny 24 posts who shows up, posts for a day to try and get your "opinion" out there, then forgets you're registered here... and you'll probably never read this anyway, so whats the use People still bring up post counts as negatives in discussions? It's the lamest thing anyone can do on a forum IMO. I think most people are talking about the character/booking/creative, not the guy. I could dig up on this first page alone dozens of Cena bashers saying they still respect the guy for the work he puts in, myself included. Just cause he shares the same name as his character doesn't mean we're bashing him personally. Why aren't people defending Mark Galloway when someone says something bad about the Undertaker? "I don't like how unstoppable the Undertaker is" "How dare you! Mark Galloway is a great man who donates to charity!" -that's how you guys come across. |
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Jan 30, 2008 2:21:04 GMT -5
thank you for your insight. when you say "john cena sucks" you're not saying "john cena is booked improperly"... big difference. then again, you're just johnny 24 posts who shows up, posts for a day to try and get your "opinion" out there, then forgets you're registered here... and you'll probably never read this anyway, so whats the use People still bring up post counts as negatives in discussions? It's the lamest thing anyone can do on a forum IMO. I think most people are talking about the character/booking/creative, not the guy. I could dig up on this first page alone dozens of Cena bashers saying they still respect the guy for the work he puts in, myself included. Just cause he shares the same name as his character doesn't mean we're bashing him personally. Why aren't people defending Mark Galloway when someone says something bad about the Undertaker? "I don't like how unstoppable the Undertaker is" "How dare you! Mark Galloway is a great man who donates to charity!" -that's how you guys come across. sorry, but when people come in here and use lame ass internet lingo like "kthnkbye" as a way to prove that they are superior and the subject is over then it makes one seem like they're trying to say "hi, i'm a total dick. this is my point and the conversation is over." it's very YTMND... NOT Wrestlecrap... and i'm not addressing someone who would say "i hate how unstoppable John Cena is..." i'm addressing those who say "cena sucks. he's not good at what he does. he's not a good worker" well thats bulls***. john cena busts his ass and is VERY good at what he does. it's the booking that most people have a problem with... yet cena gets the brunt of the bitching. |
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Post by MichaelMartini on Jan 30, 2008 2:37:11 GMT -5
People still bring up post counts as negatives in discussions? It's the lamest thing anyone can do on a forum IMO. I think most people are talking about the character/booking/creative, not the guy. I could dig up on this first page alone dozens of Cena bashers saying they still respect the guy for the work he puts in, myself included. Just cause he shares the same name as his character doesn't mean we're bashing him personally. Why aren't people defending Mark Galloway when someone says something bad about the Undertaker? "I don't like how unstoppable the Undertaker is" "How dare you! Mark Galloway is a great man who donates to charity!" -that's how you guys come across. sorry, but when people come in here and use lame ass internet lingo like "kthnkbye" as a way to prove that they are superior and the subject is over then it makes one seem like they're trying to say "hi, i'm a total dick. this is my point and the conversation is over." it's very YTMND... NOT Wrestlecrap... and i'm not addressing someone who would say "i hate how unstoppable John Cena is..." i'm addressing those who say "cena sucks. he's not good at what he does. he's not a good worker" well thats bulls***. john cena busts his ass and is VERY good at what he does. it's the booking that most people have a problem with... yet cena gets the brunt of the bitching. How does using internet lingo prove they're superior to someone? You've got a big chip on your shoulder dude. |
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Post by I'm The Cool One on Jan 30, 2008 2:43:08 GMT -5
sorry, but when people come in here and use lame ass internet lingo like "kthnkbye" as a way to prove that they are superior and the subject is over then it makes one seem like they're trying to say "hi, i'm a total dick. this is my point and the conversation is over." it's very YTMND... NOT Wrestlecrap... and i'm not addressing someone who would say "i hate how unstoppable John Cena is..." i'm addressing those who say "cena sucks. he's not good at what he does. he's not a good worker" well thats bulls***. john cena busts his ass and is VERY good at what he does. it's the booking that most people have a problem with... yet cena gets the brunt of the bitching. How does using internet lingo prove they're superior to someone? You've got a big chip on your shoulder dude. you're goddamn right i do. the context in which that one little lame ass lingo was used rubbed me the wrong way. it was really unnecessary and screamed "internet bad ass"... and i hate that shit... but we're not even aguing anything that pertains to this thread. so to hell with it. |
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