Do kid wrestling fans ruin everything?

[acressl]

realfakerazor said:

acressl said:

We are the problem, not the kids. Without internet wrestling types, nothing would be questioned. You'd like some things and hate others, but you wouldn't watch with the expectations that you have now.

The Internet itself is the problem. You wouldn't see anybody questioning the WWE or acting "smarky" but for the Internet. Now, even 10-year old kids do because even 10-year old kids have YouTube access.
What this thread is really about is a return to the ignorance (or innocence) of a pre-Internet wrestling fandom, not about age. But you can't very well get rid of the Internet, can you?

Exactly. You're exactly right. The internet is the big bad guy here. The information is out there now. That's just the way it is. Adult and child are defiled alike.

[AriadosMan]

^ I think part of the reason this thread was framed by age was because people on this board are old enough to remember a time when computers weren't everywhere and the Internet didn't exist in its current form. Nowadays, most children are actively taught to use the Internet at a much younger age than we were when we started using computers.
In saying that we like children better than "greasy teenagers", we're basically talking about the time when we were little kids and we enjoyed the WWE without knowing/thinking about what was going on backstage. In short, its more nostalgia for our own childhood than it is about kids today (who have a different experience, due to the increased reliance on computers).
Wonka seems to have been the main poster who separated his own childhood experience from that of children today. You can't really "hand down" an 80s childhood to kids in the 00s.

[La Plus Heureuse]

I wouldn't call it "women" friendly. I don't care for the overly cuddly and ultra-nice iterations of wrestlers that we see when the phenomenon you pointed out happens. I liked Cena best when he was a cocky ass who went around rap battling people with that ridiculous necklace. I never liked Batista, although Leviathan was kinda a cool gimmick.

Anywho, my point is that it is aimed at kids, but we of the female sex don't necessarily want kinder, more gentle wrestlers.

[thesunbeast]

I personally believe that any notion that a kid makes something less fun for an adult is a waste. In that situation, it's about the kid, when there's a choice between the two, it should be the kid that has the fun. A kid ruining the fun for the adult is 100 times better than an adult ruing the fun for the kid. It's not always like that though.

When there's a sold out show, you might have half of them kids and half of them adults. The adults will have less fun and complain the whole time while the only thing the kid will complain about is not being able to see over the adults who don't like being there anyway. Meanwhile, there is some kid sitting at home who couldn't go to the show because it's sold out, and his seat is being taken by some guy who dosen't really want to be there anyway. I say that If you're an adult and the produst get's catered to kids 100%, then you're better off just staying home.

[waydub]

not unless those girls at the mall that i asked to smell my cologne are wrestling fans cause i guess they are kids cause they secrity guard told me they were to young to smell it and then he followed me sometimes, but one girl might have had downs syndrom so i did not laugh

[zombrad]

It's not the children's fault. They've grown up in a world where mediocre is accepted as great. With a few exceptions TV, movies, and mainstream music are a creative, and artistic wasteland. Everything in spoon-fed to them, nothing challenging, nothing that gets the imagination going.

Besides, I wasn't as gullible as this thread makes kids seem. I mean I probably would've liked John Cena......but I sure as hell wouldn't accept a useless undercard that's basically filler between Hornswoggle skits. I loved it as much as I liked the main eventers at the time. I loved the WCW cruiserweights because they actually flew as high as Michael Cole claims they do now, and I loved watching technical based wrestling matches, because they made it seem real.

At the time, main eventers seemed like super heroes among real average wrestlers......not super heroes among useless losers, as WWE seems to make their midcard out to be.

The 2000's suck and blow at the same time >.>

[joeman]

Mar 27, 2008 4:44:44 GMT -5 zombrad said:

It's not the children's fault. They've grown up in a world where mediocre is accepted as great. With a few exceptions TV, movies, and mainstream music are a creative, and artistic wasteland. Everything in spoon-fed to them, nothing challenging, nothing that gets the imagination going.

Besides, I wasn't as gullible as this thread makes kids seem. I mean I probably would've liked John Cena......but I sure as hell wouldn't accept a useless undercard that's basically filler between Hornswoggle skits. I loved it as much as I liked the main eventers at the time. I loved the WCW cruiserweights because they actually flew as high as Michael Cole claims they do now, and I loved watching technical based wrestling matches, because they made it seem real.

At the time, main eventers seemed like super heroes among real average wrestlers......not super heroes among useless losers, as WWE seems to make their midcard out to be.

The 2000's suck and blow at the same time >.>

It was like this in the 80's too. Hulk Hogan and others in the main event where far above the others it wasn't even funny. Hell, in WCW, despite how cruiser weights where showcasing their talents, they never went anywhere beyond that. Hell, even Mean Gene Oarkland of all people looked down at the cruiser weights when he replied back to Bret Hart saying, El Dandy? He is just a cruiserweight."

Problem is today is that everyone is being way too negative and analyzing things that shouldn't be even analyzed. There is a reason why the majority of the wrestlers look down at us, and it is because we have unrealistic visions of the product and they themselves don't take it as seriously as we do.

I like Scott Hall's quote best when he said "the more you believe pro-wrestling as fake, the easier the job becomes." Unfortunately, smarks have a hard time swallowing the fact that wrestling is fake.

[salTy]

How can smarks ruin something they're such a small part of? Nobody has ruined wrestling because it's not even ruined to begin with. It's the same as it's always been. We should actually be thankful the WWE acknowledges their adult fans, because they sure as hell didn't in the 80s. In the 80s it was ALL about the kids.

[Mecca]

Mar 27, 2008 19:50:05 GMT -5 salTy said:

How can smarks ruin something they're such a small part of? Nobody has ruined wrestling because it's not even ruined to begin with. It's the same as it's always been. We should actually be thankful the WWE acknowledges their adult fans, because they sure as hell didn't in the 80s. In the 80s it was ALL about the kids.

It got worse in the early 90's...cmon Duke the Dumpster Droese and TL Hopper?

[greeby]

What I don't like listening to crowd reactions on TV lately. Is that for the most part the crowd is dead for 80% of the card, and then Cena pops up and all the kids go nuts. How in the blue hell is someone new supposed to get over with an audience like this?

[zombrad]

Mar 27, 2008 10:35:56 GMT -5 @joeman said:

Mar 27, 2008 4:44:44 GMT -5 zombrad said:

It's not the children's fault. They've grown up in a world where mediocre is accepted as great. With a few exceptions TV, movies, and mainstream music are a creative, and artistic wasteland. Everything in spoon-fed to them, nothing challenging, nothing that gets the imagination going.

Besides, I wasn't as gullible as this thread makes kids seem. I mean I probably would've liked John Cena......but I sure as hell wouldn't accept a useless undercard that's basically filler between Hornswoggle skits. I loved it as much as I liked the main eventers at the time. I loved the WCW cruiserweights because they actually flew as high as Michael Cole claims they do now, and I loved watching technical based wrestling matches, because they made it seem real.

At the time, main eventers seemed like super heroes among real average wrestlers......not super heroes among useless losers, as WWE seems to make their midcard out to be.

The 2000's suck and blow at the same time >.>

It was like this in the 80's too. Hulk Hogan and others in the main event where far above the others it wasn't even funny. Hell, in WCW, despite how cruiser weights where showcasing their talents, they never went anywhere beyond that. Hell, even Mean Gene Oarkland of all people looked down at the cruiser weights when he replied back to Bret Hart saying, El Dandy? He is just a cruiserweight."

Problem is today is that everyone is being way too negative and analyzing things that shouldn't be even analyzed. There is a reason why the majority of the wrestlers look down at us, and it is because we have unrealistic visions of the product and they themselves don't take it as seriously as we do.

I like Scott Hall's quote best when he said "the more you believe pro-wrestling as fake, the easier the job becomes." Unfortunately, smarks have a hard time swallowing the fact that wrestling is fake.

It's not my complaint that midcarders are canonfodder compared to main eventers......it's that they don't really do anything. They don't have any real worthwhile feuds, except for the semi-midcarders/main characters like JBL, Jericho, Big Show....etc.

They end up being filler between Hornswoggle skits, and what Mcmahon is doing backstage.

That's my real problem with WWE.....they emphasize the entertainment, in stead of the sports part in "Sports Entertainment".

They have loads of potential badassory, but they refuse to use it, and opt to do Nickelodeon style skits, and ignore great midcarders for more attention to the main eventers.

Basically, it's crappy writers that ruin wrestling, not children.

They need to do more things like CM Punk VS John Morrison.....that was a really refreshing feud, when compared to what was happening on Raw.