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Post by M. Dirrty on Nov 10, 2009 21:57:10 GMT -5
Ultimate Warrior: The only man to ever split the mass empire of Hulkamania.
That alone deserves an induction.
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Post by Macho Dude Handy Damage on Nov 10, 2009 22:37:04 GMT -5
Warrior definately deserves a spot in the HOF. He might not have had many titles or even a super long run in the company. But from his debut back in 1988 (or was it '87) until he left in 1991 (and when he came back in '92 and '96) he was always one of their top stars. He was also one of the biggest stars in his very, VERY short WCW run.
Say what you want about Warrior, but you can't dispute the fact that the man will always be a big name in wrestling!
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Nov 10, 2009 22:51:21 GMT -5
They should induct the Ultimate Warrior character but not Jim Hellwig. Vince should just accept it on the character's behalf.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2009 22:53:27 GMT -5
They should induct the Ultimate Warrior character but not Jim Hellwig. Vince should just accept it on the character's behalf. If it's accepted by Vince with a mullet, face paint, trunks, and tassles, I say yay. |
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Post by ♥ Bunnyslinger ♥ on Nov 11, 2009 0:04:01 GMT -5
I'd watch his induction just to see if he'd go batshit insane on the mic and start shooting on vince and the company.
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Post by tarheelfan on Nov 11, 2009 0:49:29 GMT -5
i love the way people get so worked up about the hall of fame, its all a work and a political game that vince plays, it doesnt really matter whos in it or not I have watched wrestling for almost thirty years and I totally agree. What does it really matter if the Ultimate Warrior gets into a quite honestly worthless Hall of Fame. It will still not change the fact that The Ultimate Warrior did have mega success and popularity. The WWE Hall of Fame is a joke anyway. For example I think Pete Rose was a legendary ballplayer(the baseball controversy aside) but what did Rose really do to merit the WWE Hall of Fame over a lot of other wrestlers besides an appearance at Wrestlemania (big deal I say with sarcasm). In a way the WWE Hall of Fame is perfect for the WWEs sports entertainment stigma. Because basically when you really get down right to it the WWE Hall of Fame IMHO is just a sports entertainment type extension of the product. |
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Post by Drillbit Taylor on Nov 11, 2009 1:26:23 GMT -5
They should induct the Ultimate Warrior character but not Jim Hellwig. Vince should just accept it on the character's behalf. Who is Jim Hellwig? There is only Warrior now. |
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Post by Blade Braxton on Nov 11, 2009 1:47:28 GMT -5
i love the way people get so worked up about the hall of fame, its all a work and a political game that vince plays, it doesnt really matter whos in it or not My thoughts exactly. First, there is no "hall," therefore a wrestler is getting inducted into something non-existant. Two, do you honestly think for one minute that a board of WWE officials are setting at a table talking workrate and career legacy in regards to who gets inducted? Hell no. Like the sport itself, the WWE makes a predetermined choice based on whoever they deem can pop the crowd, mainly based on nostalgia. It's a work like the sport itself. It amazes me people still debate things like "How can Warrior be inducted before Savage,etc?" |
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Post by D2: Sweet & Sour Edition on Nov 11, 2009 3:24:18 GMT -5
Ask anybody to name some of the wrestlers during the earlier years, and you'll hear Warrior's name before Koko, Dusty, Bob Orton, Don Muraco, The Blackjacks, and a handful of others who are currently in the WWE HoF.
I honestly say it's about time.
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 11, 2009 3:35:04 GMT -5
i love the way people get so worked up about the hall of fame, its all a work and a political game that vince plays, it doesnt really matter whos in it or not My thoughts exactly. First, there is no "hall," therefore a wrestler is getting inducted into something non-existant. Two, do you honestly think for one minute that a board of WWE officials are setting at a table talking workrate and career legacy in regards to who gets inducted? Hell no. Like the sport itself, the WWE makes a predetermined choice based on whoever they deem can pop the crowd, mainly based on nostalgia. It's a work like the sport itself. It amazes me people still debate things like "How can Warrior be inducted before Savage,etc?" Agreed. Didn't someone like either Flair, Harley Race or Lawler once even speak to that effect? Like they said something along the lines of how getting in the Hall has nothing to do with merit and "deserving" and everything to do with how many asses you put in the seats, or something like that? Basically, it's all a sham. |
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Post by Totorob101 on Nov 11, 2009 4:46:16 GMT -5
Its not a sham really,guys like Koko and such deserve their place in the HOF,they always gave as much to the buisness as the bigger names did and without some of these guys,the biggest stars wouldnt have had the success they did.Cant believe anyones knocking Koko! The guy was extremely popular and was a great wrestler in his day.He lost much but so what? im sure all the guys who worked with him are extremely thankful to him.Warrior...you cant deny the guy a place,he has left his mark on this buisness.
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Post by Ryushinku on Nov 11, 2009 4:47:29 GMT -5
It's a great excuse for everyone to pay respect to their peers. For them to see the guys and gals all appreciating what they did. It's a pat on the back from an industry that doesn't do them.
Call it a sham if you want but I think any pro wrestler would love to get that acclaim in the older years of their life.
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 11, 2009 4:51:41 GMT -5
Its not a sham really,guys like Koko and such deserve their place in the HOF,they always gave as much to the buisness as the bigger names did and without some of these guys,the biggest stars wouldnt have had the success they did.Cant believe anyones knocking Koko! The guy was extremely popular and was a great wrestler in his day.He lost much but so what? im sure all the guys who worked with him are extremely thankful to him.Warrior...you cant deny the guy a place,he has left his mark on this buisness. But see, here's the thing: it IS a work. There IS no actual Hall like in Cooperstown. There's no vote or consensus or governing body that inducts you, or puts your name on a ballot. It's all pretty much up to what kind of a relationship you have with Vince at the moment, really. Granted, you need to be sort of a big name, or at least someone who stood out and who most fans (or these days their parents) would remember fondly. Hence Koko and many of the "lesser" stars. Basically, if you ever did anything of note, you're going in unless you really f*** up. |
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Nov 11, 2009 5:13:28 GMT -5
I've said it before, I'll probably say it again- It's a nice honorific for guys, a lil 'Hey thanks'. No more, no less.
Hence why the merit debates are silly.
I STILL want a Kaufman induction. DiG championed Fink until they put him in, I'll continue to sing the praises of the man from H'wood till he gets his just due.
"He wasn't in the WWE", ya say? neither was Verne Gagne etc; at this point the 'HoF' honors old guard of all kinds, and dammit Andy Kaufman should be in there too. Get Lawler to do it, show old clips, it'd be great.
In fact, that's an addition to my sig right there.
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Post by Rorschach on Nov 11, 2009 5:15:29 GMT -5
I've said it before, I'll probably say it again- It's a nice honorific for guys, a lil 'Hey thanks'. No more, no less. Hence why the merit debates are silly. I STILL want a Kaufman induction. DiG championed Fink until they put him in, I'll continue to sing the praises of the man from H'wood till he gets his just due. "He wasn't in the WWE", ya say? neither was Verne Gagne etc; at this point the 'HoF' honors old guard of all kinds, and dammit Andy Kaufman should be in there too. Get Lawler to do it, show old clips, it'd be great. In fact, that's an addition to my sig right there. Regarding the first line: EXACTLY. It's a nice "thank you" at the end of a career. But that's IT. |
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Post by celticjobber on Nov 11, 2009 5:44:37 GMT -5
I think he definitely deserves to be in it, whether or not he'd accept -- I'm not too sure...
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Post by johnnyk9 on Nov 11, 2009 7:04:47 GMT -5
I hope this happens I can't wait
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Post by nerdinitupagain on Nov 11, 2009 10:28:27 GMT -5
Every single one of you would mark if you heard his music play on Raw one night out of nowhere. While he's strange, weird, and has some extreme views on certain topics...
That music alone is amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2009 11:31:43 GMT -5
Okay, let's look at the merits:
*He was a popular character during most of his inception
*He was a sight to behold, as he squashed
*He was one of the few who defeated Hulk Hogan cleanly
*He was WWF Champion for a while
Let's look at the pitfalls:
*Jim Hellwig, who changed his name to "Warrior Warrior" (and a bunch of other things) is a nuthouse, pure and simple.
*Warrior never did show much compassion to the company, as his ego could rival Hogan's: he always wanted to be at the top AND as a babyface!
*Warrior has produced a lot of bizarre items, both in and out of the ring. His comic, anyone?
*Warrior tends to insult anyone he looks at and doesn't share his views.
*His time on WCW.
Personally, Warrior falls into the category that Jeff Hardy will fall in: he did a lot of things, but in the end, he never was worth it.
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Post by Lancers on Nov 11, 2009 11:34:22 GMT -5
I would like an actual Hall of Famevto visit. I could go on one of the tours and see the left boot Koko B. Ware wore in his valiant effort against Sgt. Slaughter during an episode of Saturday Night's Main Event from 1990.
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