Eric Bischoff calls IWC "morons" on his Facebook..

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

Cole: Hey! Quit stealing my thunder! I was bashing the internet geeks first!

[truwrestlingfan]

Apr 16, 2010 7:05:17 GMT -5 Ryushinku said:

I do love how someone, on the Internet and a wrestling fan, wrote that email to Eric Bischoff to get that response.

Ever noticed how many people in the IWC try to pretend they're not in the IWC? It's a beautiful thing.

HAHA, That is so true. Many people on this forum are like that! While people on the net do have different views sometimes I would say 8 out of 10 net fans feel the same way about most wrestlers and storylines (perfect example is the Invasion, most people here hate it but most that I have talked to not on the Net thought it was awesome)

[RedSmile]

Eric Bicshoff hasn't done anything to entertain me since about 1997. The NWO was his one trick pony and even then he managed to completely screw it up. I really do not think Bischoff knows what any fans want, internet based or otherwise.

Actually, Im probably wrong, fans love to hate him.

[Metalheadbanger Man]

A 45 minute match comprised of moonsaults and armbars would be interesting.

[ani]

The fans do get ridiculous at times...but people complaining about fans comlaing about wrestling is even more ludicrous.

Cornette and Bischoff both need to grow up.

[Deleted]

Why would ever insult any member of a potential fanbase?

I understand this is what Eric Bischoff thinks so he's just as out of touch with hardcore wrestling fans as he is with causal or potential wrestling fans. Aside from WCW - producing crappy reality TV shows is the best he could do and things like this is why he should just stick to trash-TV. Their best show did just over a million viewers - which is a million viewers LESS than TNA did before he showed up.

But seriously - why would you ever say anything negative about people who might or currently watch your show?

He could have easily have just said nothing at all.

[Dragonfly]

My honest to God first thought when I read the OP:

"Why does Bischoff have a problem with IWC? They haven't done anything to him! Okay... He might have a grudge against head booker Shane Douglas, but who doesn't these days?"

...It was at that point I realized he was talking the Internet, not the Pittsburgh-based International Wrestling Cartel. (Hey... I'm a known Pittsburgh wrestling fanboy. This is how I think.) As for the topic at hand...

In his September 2009 interview with Playboy, Seth MacFarlane said the following:

"[There are some fans who] watch every week, and every week they talk about how terrible the show is. That’s something you see in animation fans, science fiction fans and comic book fans - all the nerds, basically. Nerds can get really angry. This is not meant to sound insensitive to their plight, but when you pour a disproportionate amount of your life force into one particular thing you can lose some objectivity."

Now honestly, I generally agree with the point MacFarlane is making here. The problem lies with the way he's saying it. He comes off as an elitist ass, pure and simple. It makes me want to start an argument with the guy, if for no other reason than to be contrary. If he would put more thought into his words, I might be more willing to admit that for once, I agree with Seth MacFarlane.

The same exact thing is at play here. While I actually agree with Bischoff's general thesis - don't call me out on it, as that's another argument for another day - his general demeanor just bothers me. Seriously, "vanilla midgets?" That's going a bit too far. Like with the example posted above, a potential "lively debate topic" has gone to hell thanks to the speaker's apparent need to look like an elitist, confrontational jackass.

[erisi236]

"Vanilla midgets"? Isn't this the same line of thought that drove all the good wrestlers out of WCW?

[ritt works hard fo da chickens]

Oh he brings out the vanilla midget tag already? Goodbye sweet remnants of the X-division. Was nice knowing you for awhile. Anyone else think AJ is the set up man here. He is going to be blamed for the fall off and then Hogan or his cronies will get the belt and they will advertise the hell out of it and all credit will go to them. The things I didn't miss about WCW come back painfully now.

[FailedGimmick]

Apr 16, 2010 10:11:10 GMT -5 ritt works hard fo da chickens said:

Goodbye sweet remnants of the X-division. Was nice knowing you for awhile.

It wouldn't surprise me. Douglas Williams has been belittling the very thing that made the X-Division one of TNA's biggest draws in the first place since he won the title.

[dh03grad]

It comes down to the fact that Eric Bischoff didnt learn a damn thing in the decade since his failure in WCW. He should know that the IWC is TNA's fanbase. The majority of casual wrestling fans couldnt care less about TNA, and the ones that gave it a chance watched January 4th and never came back. The business model for TNA should be as a niche wrestling promotion. Getting every big name available like Jeff Hardy will never give them the return on the investment necessary without Vince McMahon's machine.

[Crusty Ruffles]

Stuff like this really just sums up the fact that TNA has no idea who their fanbase is. IWC, non-IWC, casual, men, women, aliens, animals....they have no clue.

It's always our fault the ratings are bad. Or an angle flopped. Or the houseshow didn't draw. Good god, people, you need as many fans as you can get even if they're from Mars. Sure, you please the majority of the people and don't cater to the minority....but WHO is the majority and the minority?

[Perigryn]

I agree with Bischoff. Intentional 'WHAT' Chanters ARE morons...

[Bram wants to 'urt you]

These vanilla midgets of which he speaks, do they come in any other flavours? You see as a card carrying, flag waving member of the IWC, I like a bit of variety in my 45 minute moonsault/submission fests.

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

That "vanilla midget" comment always bugs me.

Those vanilla midgets can be the backbone of any company. WWE isn't perfect, but they use their "vanilla midgets" to their advantage. Evan Bourne, a vanilla midget, was used to get Sheamus, a vanilla ginger, over and look like a threat. He does the same for any big guy that needs to look like a threat. Remember Rey Mysterio, another vanilla midget who's now one of the main sources of merchandise income for WWE? Remember Chris Benoit, who said that he would never draw a dime? When they paired him with someone, HE DID.

Not everyone needs to be a roided up freak like the Batistas and Ultimate Warriors of the wrestling business, and not everyone needs to be Obama on the mic. What those "vanilla midgets" put out in that ring can be just as important to a company.

[hollywood]

Kinda ironic Bischoff would be down on "vanilla midgets" since they were kinda one of the biggest reasons WCW managed trump WWE in the ratings.

Still and all, this mythic IWC thing is a bit annoying. I mean...it's like you can't win. You're perceived as either a dimwitted moron watching a "fake" sport or an obnoxious nerd.

[angryfan]

Apr 16, 2010 10:11:10 GMT -5 ritt works hard fo da chickens said:

Oh he brings out the vanilla midget tag already? Goodbye sweet remnants of the X-division. Was nice knowing you for awhile. Anyone else think AJ is the set up man here. He is going to be blamed for the fall off and then Hogan or his cronies will get the belt and they will advertise the hell out of it and all credit will go to them. The things I didn't miss about WCW come back painfully now.

I called the same thing some weeks ago, and still stand by it. If a company does poorly over a period, the "top guy" gets labeled as not being a big enough draw. AJ is the "top guy" and ratings are down from where they were. We hear about the "have to take a step back to take a step forward" thinking, but someone WILL be the fall guy if ratings don't go back up to where they were.

Think it'll be Hogan or any of the people he brought in? Not a chance. Either AJ takes the hit for "dropping the ball" or Abyss does with the reasoning being "Hogan couldn't get the guy over enough even pairing up with him".

[baerrtt]

Bischoff, as well as Hogan, has always held to a belief that smaller, more athletic wrestlers don't draw the big crowds and pretty much doesn't see his failure to push the Benoits, Guerrerros, Jerichos stronger 12 years ago as a reason for WCW losing the war. Reading Eric's book as well as Eddie Guerrero's It seems that none of the higher-ups gave the cruiserweight division any credit for WCW's success back then.

The guy still doesn't think Jericho is a convincing headliner in any shape or form so it doesn't surprise me that he hasn't changed his views from yesteryear.

[BxB]

This is what Bischoff's current status is

"Once again James Caldwell of PWTorch did a better job of pointing out why sites like his are as useless as they are than I can. The "quotes" and the post he attributes to me are not mine. They are the thoughts and points made by a FAN on my page (Zack Harris). Thanks for the exposure Caldwell and thanks for making it so obvious that you are nothing more than a gossip site with a personal agenda "

[Finish Uncle Muffin’s Story]

Well, after James Caldwell of the Torch blasted Eric, he's now claiming that he didn't make those comments, and that they were Zack Harris'.

If that's the case - then Eric should have put the quote in QUOTATIONS and not used an ellipsis. Hasn't he been around long enough to realize that?

And by broadcasting it, it's inferred that he agrees with it. Stupid, Bischoff, Stupid.